Politics CHARLIE KIRK SHOT IN UTAH

[Phatguysrule]

You have no proof Floyd did those things? LMAO ok man. You will just spin anything that doesn't fit your narrative and push back on anything.

I know for sure, 100%, what Kirk did. I don't know for sure 100% that Floyd did anything. Is it likely he committed some crime? Is it likely he may have robbed somebody? Sure. But even if he did many of those crimes are committed by people who are simply desperate and poor.

That doesn't make it okay, but it does make it more understandable.

George Foreman used to mug people for a living. When people are desperate and poor they make desperate and poor decisions.

People like Charlie Kirk argue that we should keep those people desperate and poor. So that we could continue to punish them and blame them.

The data shows us that doesn't work. Charlie Kirk was in position and intelligent enough to know that. Yet he chose to ignore or deny it while targeting those people with abuse. And advocating for continued, and even more extreme abuse.

Further, arguing that women should be subservient to men.

At worse, George Floyd was a product of the system that Charlie Kirk wanted us all to live under. If you give him the benefit of the doubt he was just unlucky enough to live as a black man in a precinct of very dirty cops (there's no debate, those were dirty cops).

If you can't see the difference then you simply don't want to.

 

[sheed30]

I know for sure, 100%, what Kirk did. I don't know for sure 100% that Floyd did anything. Is it likely he committed some crime. Is it likely he may have robbed somebody. Sure. But even if he did many of those crimes are committed by people who are simply desperate and poor.

That doesn't make it okay, but it does make it more understandable.

George Foreman used to mug people for a living. When people are desperate and poor they make desperate and poor decisions.

People like Charlie Kirk argue that we should keep those people desperate and poor. So that we could continue to punish them and blame them.

The data shows us that doesn't work. Charlie Kirk was in position and intelligent enough to know that. Yet he chose to ignore or deny it while targeting those people with abuse. And advocating for continued, and even more extreme abuse.

Further, arguing that women should be subservient to men.

George Floyd was a product of the system that Charlie Kirk wanted us all to live under.

If you can't see the difference then you simply don't want to.

WHAT? Are you listening to yourself? Desperate and poor, so that makes it more understandable?

No it doesn't, everyone has it in them to go make a life for themselves, not play victim. But then again, that's typical of the left, always playing victim.

 

[julius]

I know 100% that Kirk had no empathy for minorities who are tortured and murdered. Therefore, I have no empathy for Kirk, who has been much more harmful to our society than any minority living in America that I can think of.

I have no idea what it's like to be a woman, but I can empathize with them for how they've been treated as women. Same with gays, trans, Blacks, Asians, immigrants, people with disabilities (etc). I think those who can't, or won't, don't like the word empathy because it comes with feelings that aren't our own.

You know those videos on YouTube where someone is reunited with their birth parents? I totally can understand the pain they've felt of abandonment or feeling like they've never fit in with their family, even though I wasn't adopted or abandoned by my family.

I think it's the difference between someone who can cry over a video of complete strangers having something good happening to them, and those who don't.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I promise you, 95% of these people hating on Kirk have never sat down and watching his full videos. Many claim they havent or dont either. Many things taken out of context. Or showing half a quote to fit their agenda imo.

Like this quote:


if you goning to use the quote, at least use the whole thing.

his quote, use all of it "I can't stand the word empathy, I think empathy is a made up new age term
and it does a lot of damage. Sympathy is a better word, because empathy means you are actually feeling what another person felt, and no one can feel
what another person feels."

Funny enough, they will also push back on anything that doesn't fit their views. the FBI is lying, it's a set up, the text messages aren't real, he isn't on the left, etc. Also while some say, Floyd wasn't a bad person. but Kirk is this and that, a bunch of hot garbage imo.

We can ignore the fact that he wore make up and wigs before, had a bf as well that was transitioning to a women, was in discord chats. But let’s push back against that because it doesn’t fit my narrative and I hate the right lol.

Actually, "empathy" means you understand how or why someone feels the way they do because the person feeling the empathy has "been there"and DOES know how it feels. Quit trying to rationalize what cannot ever be rationalized.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Trans Terror Cell would make a great band name.

Like anyone, I enjoy being "right". It's a human emotion. But I have never been more ashamed of being "right" when I "called out" the tidal wave of transphobia that was coming with the third comment of this (now) 48 page thread. The hoops the Right is jumping through to distance their white, conservatively raised Mormon boy from themselves would be almost hilarious if it wasn't so tragic, disgusting and evil. I sure do hope there is a heaven but humans in general make it clear that such a place would be a vast, empty desert.......

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

WHAT? Are you listening to yourself? Desperate and poor, so that makes it more understandable?

No it doesn't, everyone has it in them to go make a life for themselves, not play victim. But then again, that's typical of the left, always playing victim.

I think its pretty reasonable for anyone to understand that people can start at different spots making it much harder for some groups/people to "go make a life for themselves" than others.

 

[Phatguysrule]

WHAT? Are you listening to yourself? Desperate and poor, so that makes it more understandable?

No it doesn't, everyone has it in them to go make a life for themselves, not play victim. But then again, that's typical of the left, always playing victim.

I'm not playing victim. I'm suggesting that we set up a system that is less likely to put people in positions in which they have to make these decisions. Systems that are proven to be far more effective and efficient. With greater outcomes. Which results in better economies. Healthier populations. Happier populations. Less crime.

This has been studied extensively. Poor people are simply more likely to make poor decisions.

Those same people (when given enough money to no longer be poor) make better decisions.

It has nothing to do with victims or blame. It has everything to do with human nature.

 

[julius]

Like anyone, I enjoy being "right". It's a human emotion. But I have never been more ashamed of being "right" when I "called out" the tidal wave of transphobia that was coming with the third comment of this (now) 48 page thread. The hoops the Right is jumping through to distance their white, conservatively raised Mormon boy from themselves would be almost hilarious if it wasn't so tragic, disgusting and evil. I sure do hope there is a heaven but humans in general make it clear that such a place would be a vast, empty desert.......

Sadly, it's not an uncommon human character trait to maneuver facts, or at least the interpretation of said facts, into an easily defendable position. The left does it, and the right does it. Its kind of the "knee jerk" reactionary side of...well, everything.

The right is much better at it than the left is though. In essence, this is gaslighting. They gaslight like nobodies business.

One side argues with the mindset of "how can you not see my point of view!??!" while the other argues with the mindset of "how can you not see you're wrong??

Each side has a lot of goalpost moving though. But in this case, this feels like some 4d chess levels of goalpost moving.

 

[sheed30]

Actually, "empathy" means you understand how or why someone feels the way they do because the person feeling the empathy has "been there"and DOES know how it feels. Quit trying to rationalize what cannot ever be rationalized.

"the ability to understand and share the feelings of another" is empathy.

Kirk's point was, you cant feel excatly how someone else feels, everyone is different, but with sympathy you can feel sorrow, passion and and pitty for the person suffering.

The point really was, you guys just took the small part of his quote "I hate the word empathy" and left out the rest, because he was comparing it to sympathy.

Now you can go back to liking parody account posts that is fake but fits your narrative lol.

 

[wizenheimer]

WHAT? Are you listening to yourself? Desperate and poor, so that makes it more understandable?

No it doesn't, everyone has it in them to go make a life for themselves, not play victim. But then again, that's typical of the left, always playing victim.

LOL...yeah...the "left" plays the victim and the "right" doesn't. Obviously, you enrolled in Gaslighting 101

you also sure seem to be saying that Gerorge Floyd deserved to die for his past more than Charlie Kirk deserved to die for his past. Could you go thru Floyd's criminal record again and point out the capitol crimes?

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

"the ability to understand and share the feelings of another" is empathy.

Kirk's point was, you cant feel excatly how someone else feels, everyone is different, but with sympathy you can feel sorrow, passion and and pitty for the person suffering.

The point really was, you guys just took the small part of his quote "I hate the word empathy" and left out the rest, because he was comparing it to sympathy.

Now you can go back to liking parody account posts that is fake but fits your narrative lol.

Typical MAGAt. Pick a fight where none really exists and then blame the people you provoke for responding. You clowns need to start owning your own shit instead of lighting fires and looking to blame bogeymen that don't exist.

 

[sheed30]

LOL...yeah...the "left" plays the victim and the "right" doesn't. Obviously, you enrolled in Gaslighting 101

you also sure seem to be saying that Gerorge Floyd deserved to die for his past more than Charlie Kirk deserved to die for his past. Could you go thru Floyd's criminal record again and point out the capitol crimes?

LOL what, nice try but I have stated twice that Floyd didn't deserve what happened to him, no one should die because of their past crime history, get there foot on a neck by a cop for as long as he did, nor did Kirk deserve to die for his beliefs.

Let me correct you, BOTH didn't deserve to die, But it's you guys claiming this and that about Kirk, more or less saying it was coming to him. Let's not forget the comments that was deleted, why was it deleted? or did the mod delete it?

And that is disgusting behavior and you guys are showing your true colors. Funny enough, the same guys showing their true colors are the same little negative Nancy's bunches that complain and are 24/7 negative about Blazer related topics.

 

[sheed30]

Typical MAGAt. Pick a fight where none really exists and then blame the people you provoke for responding. You clowns need to start owning your own shit instead of lighting fires and looking to blame bogeymen that don't exist.

The only clowns here are the ones showing their true nasty colors like yourself and others.

It was posted here many times and others have said they feel no empathy for his death because he claimed he hated the word, in here.

man you guys are cringe, I posted definitions of both, and here you are getting upset because facts are facts. Typical of the left, it's not my fault you liked a post from a fake account because you guys don't want to do your homework on what is actually real or not lol.

He was comparing words, not just outright saying I hate the word empathy, Good job of you guys taking things out of content with a small part of the quote.

and I'm not a MAGA you clown, I didnt vote for either side, and i wont in the future. But we know what side you guys clearly voted for

 

[crandc]

You know, the real Rasheed Wallace, whatever else he might have been, is a proud Black man. Pretty hilarious someone would use his name while singing the praises of an unrepentant racist.

 

[sheed30]

You know, the real Rasheed Wallace, whatever else he might have been, is a proud Black man. Pretty hilarious someone would use his name while singing the praises of an unrepentant racist.

Just because Rasheed is a black man, you know his views?

There is many black folks out there defending Kirk, you can search and look it up online if you like. I know that's hard for you guys to do instead of believing whatever you guys see online. But you can do it, I believe in you!

 

[wizenheimer]

And that is disgusting behavior and you guys are showing your true colors. F

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

The only clowns here are the ones showing their true nasty colors like yourself and others.

It was posted here many times and others have said they feel no empathy for his death because he claimed he hated the word, in here.

man you guys are cringe, I posted definitions of both, and here you are getting upset because facts are facts. Typical of the left, it's not my fault you liked a post from a fake account because you guys don't want to do your homework on what is actually real or not lol.

He was comparing words, not just outright saying I hate the word empathy, Good job of you guys taking things out of content with a small part of the quote.

and I'm not a MAGA you clown, I didnt vote for either side, and i wont in the future. But we know what side you guys clearly voted for

Hmmmm.......you claim Kirk disliked the word empathy yet you're calling us out because we have little or no empathy for him. So typical of you folks, you want it both ways while allowing those who disagree with you to have it no ways. And 48 pages into the thread, I don't recall even seeing a "fake account" let alone liking it. If I actually did then it was probably because I agreed with the sentiment. And by the way.......the dictionary definition of "empathy"; "the intellectual identification with or vicariously experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another. Using an abridged definition just makes you look even sillier......

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

So George Floyd apparently deserved it because he had a criminal past?

Eep....don't look into Mangos past then....

Assuming you are posting about my post( considering its the only post with criminal facts)This is a perfect example. No where did i say he deserved it.
But watch… someone is now going to imply i said he deserved it cause he was a criminal….

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

WHAT? Are you listening to yourself? Desperate and poor, so that makes it more understandable?

No it doesn't, everyone has it in them to go make a life for themselves, not play victim. But then again, that's typical of the left, always playing victim.

There are two types of people out there.
Those who end up on the street and then beg others for help and those who end up on the street and steal to survive.
No matter the situation, we all always have a choice. To minimize ones behavior because they are poor and desperate is such a cop out, its dangerous rhetoric to spout out.

 

[julius]

Assuming you are posting about my post( considering its the only post with criminal facts)This is a perfect example. No where did i say he deserved it.
But watch… someone is now going to imply i said he deserved it cause he was a criminal….

Then why bring them up.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

LOL what, nice try but I have stated twice that Floyd didn't deserve what happened to him, no one should die because of their past crime history, get there foot on a neck by a cop for as long as he did, nor did Kirk deserve to die for his beliefs.

Let me correct you, BOTH didn't deserve to die, But it's you guys claiming this and that about Kirk, more or less saying it was coming to him. Let's not forget the comments that was deleted, why was it deleted? or did the mod delete it?

And that is disgusting behavior and you guys are showing your true colors. Funny enough, the same guys showing their true colors are the same little negative Nancy's bunches that complain and are 24/7 negative about Blazer related topics.

ol its how it starts. Fake news.
You seem to be saying… instead of actually listening to what is said and not inferring…

Ridiculous….

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Then why bring them up.

Why dont you ask that question to Stren? He brought Floyd up. Not me. See what i responded to?
Or you moving the goalposts now?

 

[THE HCP]

"How long have you been planning this?"

"A bit over a week, I think"

"some hatred can't be negotiated out"

"If I see 'notices bulge uwu' on Fox news I might have a stroke"
"alright im gonna have to leave it, that really fucking sucks"


Who in the fuck talks like that!?

And on top of that, why would he type it as "u w u" when everywhere else it's owo?

I have a 23 and 20 year old and I can PROMISE you that is NOT how kids their age text no god damn way. I showed my son this and he laughed and said that was somebody’s ,“Nerd-Ass Dad” whatever that means. HA!

 

[julius]

Why dont you ask that question to Stren? He brought Floyd up. Not me. See what i responded to?
Or you moving the goalposts now?

You brought up what he was convicted of, as if that played any role in his murder.

The shit Kirk said did played a role in his murder.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

@sheed30 I made and regularly post updates in a thread called The Civil Rights Lawyer.

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/the-civil-rights-lawyer.380369/

The lawyer who makes these videos is a conservative Republican. So conservative that his home was actually a Confederate Civil War Fort that was turned into a home after the war. He fought against mask mandates during the pandemic. While I don't agree with things like that, I can respect, enjoy, and support his fight for all of our civil rights.

Looking at the George Floyd incident, that was a clear case of excessive force, and a clear violation of the 4th Amendment.

It doesn't matter how many laws a person has broken in the past, or is currently breaking; we in the United States have rights that must be respected and protected.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

You brought up what he was convicted of, as if that played any role in his murder.

The shit Kirk said did played a role in his murder.

yeah. Nice inference without clarifying…

no where did i say anything played a part in anypnes murder. I posted criminal records because Floyd was called a good person. Good people don't commit armed robbery.
Period.
But you can twist that around like everything that gets twisted around here…

Maybe try asking what i meant by something before you make posts like that? Isn't that the current topic of discussion? People manipulating facts to solidify opinions, without clarifying/verifying said facts?….

 

[julius]

yeah. Nice inference without clarifying…

no where did i say anything played a part in anypnes murder. I posted criminal records because Floyd was called a good person. Good people don't commit armed robbery.
Period.
But you can twist that around like everything that gets twisted around here…

Maybe try asking what i meant by something before you make posts like that? Isn't that the current topic of discussion? People manipulating facts to solidify opinions, without clarifying/verifying said facts?….

WHY BRING IT UP THEN!?

ffs, there's reasons why you brought up what crimes he did. Who gives an absolute fuck what crimes he did. It played zero part in his murder.

swear to god, you ate paste as a kid didn't you?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I posted criminal records because Floyd was called a good person. Good people don't commit armed robbery.
Period.
But you can twist that around like everything that gets twisted around here…

Really? Easy counterpoint.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

WHY BRING IT UP THEN!?

ffs, there's reasons why you brought up what crimes he did. Who gives an absolute fuck what crimes he did. It played zero part in his murder.

swear to god, you ate paste as a kid didn't you?

K so now you resort to insults because you didn't read the answer to your own question? I posted it because stren said he was a good person. I countered that with bis criminal history and later stated good people dont commit armed robbery.
I wont insult you for you missing that, like you insulted me though….