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julius said:
It's amazing how deftly they have blamed Obama for this (since you know, he created racism out of thin air).
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Charlie Kirk is a perfect example of how being a racist (among other things) is a big hit with the right.

Any nonsense they want to spew is just projection.

It’s a party that’s draws to people with projection, a fake news network and “I know you are, but what am I” as their platform.
 
Strenuus said:
May be the literal dumbest thing ive ever heard.

"You made it about race because of your race"

"No. You made it about race because of your hatred for my race.
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The mind games these people are willing to go to in order to create a “truth” that fits their narrative is endless. They have a cult that follows their backassward logic (filled with countless logical fallacies and hypocrisy) and then surround themselves with others that believe the same shit and it goes on and on and on and on. And when called out for it their only retort is “the left does it more!!” When in reality the left just understands logic, evidence and peer reviewed science and respects the liberties of the individual. No amount of brainwashing or cultism or arguing will change these fundamental truths and once the cult is gone the sane will prevail.
 
Frankly, I'm so disappointed in the rhetoric I'm seeing by Americans of both "sides."

I have no use for Kirk. I think he was a bigot. Instead of bickering about which side the "shooter" is on, why don't we ask a few questions.

You have been smart enough to not listen to anything this administration has to stay because you know they literally lie through their teeth about everything, but suddenly you believe them when they say they found the shooter and this Robinson guy is it?

There are at least a dozen things that absolutely do not add up. Instead of being divided even more, we should come together even more and understand there are other forces at play. These forces want you to ignore them all the while sowing even more division and you're giving that to them plus more.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
Frankly, I'm so disappointed in the rhetoric I'm seeing by Americans of both "sides."

I have no use for Kirk. I think he was a bigot. Instead of bickering about which side the "shooter" is on, why don't we ask a few questions.

You have been smart enough to not listen to anything this administration has to stay because you know they literally lie through their teeth about everything, but suddenly you believe them when they say they found the shooter and this Robinson guy is it?

There are at least a dozen things that absolutely do not add up. Instead of being divided even more, we should come together even more and understand there are other forces at play. These forces want you to ignore them all the while sowing even more division and you're giving that to them plus more.
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Who said we believe them when they found the shooter?

Lol, did you see how dumb the FBI is? They only found this guy because the dude who shot Kirk told his dad. They were nowhere close to catching him.

And yes, because of how our climate is, I still have doubts.

I dont exactly know who you were replying to in this lol.
 
Even these both sides argument is a strawman argument. The right has shifted so far right that even old school classic Republicans are considered left or infiltrated by leftist ideas. Hence the Republicans Against Trump account, etc.

Let’s really call it for what it is, there are Americans who respect intellectual concepts like “science” and “history” and “non biased news” and separation of church and state and the concept of liberty and the Constitution who are insulted by being called “the left”, and then there is a radical subset of far right Anti-Americans who want to get rid of those things I just listed who staged a coup. I reject the notion there are two sides of left/right and assert it’s American and Anti American. I’m not giving up the concept of what it means to be an American because of a brainwashing scheme pervading the country right now largely due to social media platforms.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I know! I mean, all the founder owned slaves, but nowadays when you talk about your own slaves you get nasty looks! And don't get me started about what people say about my collection of Indian scalps.
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Well, John Adams didn't. But your point stands
 
Hapless FBI delayed announcing suspect in custody so Trump could do so on Fox.
 
Also, DUI hire demanded troops pray for Kirk in Jesus' name. Fuck the First Amendment!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Where were you when Kirk got shot?
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Deep in the woods north of Camas. Livingston mountain. With absolutely no cell phone service. I was delivering off Ammeter Rd and heard someone popping off a semi automatic gun in the distance. Got into an area with range about 6pm and my wife told me Charlie Kirk got killed..

I said crazy! But not surprised.
 
I might be confused, but I’m not super well versed in Charlie Kirk knowledge. But why exactly is it hitting with as much gravity as it is? Dude was basically a Republican podcaster right? Why is there talks of like medal of freedom awards and such?

Have those things really cheapened to the point of podcast assassinations?
 
MickZagger said:
Deep in the woods north of Camas. Livingston mountain. With absolutely no cell phone service. I was delivering off Ammeter Rd and heard someone popping off a semi automatic gun in the distance. Got into an area with range about 6pm and my wife told me Charlie Kirk got killed..

I said crazy! But not surprised.
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So no real alibi.
 
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Strenuus said:
Who said we believe them when they found the shooter?

Lol, did you see how dumb the FBI is? They only found this guy because the dude who shot Kirk told his dad. They were nowhere close to catching him.

And yes, because of how our climate is, I still have doubts.

I dont exactly know who you were replying to in this lol.
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LITERALLY NONE of the facts point to that kid being the shooter. It all contradicts itself. And every post out of Israel is about how Charlie was such a great friend to Israel. It's really over the top stuff. Now there's reporting that Kirk told his inner circle he was scared for his life. It's all out in the open.
 
MickZagger said:
I might be confused, but I’m not super well versed in Charlie Kirk knowledge. But why exactly is it hitting with as much gravity as it is? Dude was basically a Republican podcaster right? Why is there talks of like medal of freedom awards and such?

Have those things really cheapened to the point of podcast assassinations?
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It feeds the grifting narrative.
 
MickZagger said:
I might be confused, but I’m not super well versed in Charlie Kirk knowledge. But why exactly is it hitting with as much gravity as it is? Dude was basically a Republican podcaster right? Why is there talks of like medal of freedom awards and such?

Have those things really cheapened to the point of podcast assassinations?
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Because the right wants him to be a martyr. Flag half mast, mandatory prayer. The hop of course it was.a "leftist" who killed him. Regardless, it will be an excuse for more regression, political screening of immigrants and job applicants already happening.
 
julius said:
Maybe I missed something, but what was the joke?
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The pathetic displays of masculinity. The tough guy walk, the intentional underbite with gritted teeth. Standing in the bathroom wearing your best biker jacket and sunglasses. It's like a Sears catalog of guys who beat their kids.
 
Sheldon Shape said:
LITERALLY NONE of the facts point to that kid being the shooter. It all contradicts itself. And every post out of Israel is about how Charlie was such a great friend to Israel. It's really over the top stuff. Now there's reporting that Kirk told his inner circle he was scared for his life. It's all out in the open.
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Nick Fuentes was behind this. Before he passed Kirk wasn’t lock step with the cult on issues like Epstein Files and Israel. They had this Kirk kid knocked off. That Loomer freak has been awfully quiet after he previously wanted Kirk’s nuts in a souvenir jar.
 
jonnyboy said:
Some really, really bad takes in this forum. It’s like Drudge Report for aggregating the worst possible and unproven theories from around the internet and dropping them off as hard, irrefutable fact.
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Feel free to call them out specifically. Even prove them wrong.

I like about this place.
 
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