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are you happy that chauncey billups got the job

  • yes

    Votes: 80 59.7%

  • no

    Votes: 10 7.5%

  • yes, but he was not my first choice

    Votes: 19 14.2%

  • meh, im indifferent

    Votes: 25 18.7%
  • Total voters
    134
Propagandist said:
Fuck your tone.

You are basing your view of Dame on interviews and Twitter. I am basing my view on the physical world, here, in Portland. I'm sorry your hero is a philanderer. It disappointed me too. I would have never mentioned it, if he didn't endorse Billups. All these hypocrites.

Or he has an open relationship.

Again, I'm not judging Dame for his actions, but if you couple his actions with his endorsement of one garbage human and then another potentially garbage human, then Dame sucks too.
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Your Horse is a tad elevated here.
 
Propagandist said:
Fuck your tone.

You are basing your view of Dame on interviews and Twitter. I am basing my view on the physical world, here, in Portland. I'm sorry your hero is a philanderer. It disappointed me too. I would have never mentioned it, if he didn't endorse Billups. All these hypocrites.

Or he has an open relationship. And what evidence you have to back it up

Again, I'm not judging Dame for his actions, but if you couple his actions with his endorsement of one garbage human and then another potentially garbage human, then Dame sucks too.
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No I'm genuinely curious for your opinion and your reason for it. The only remotely disrespectful stuff to come out of his mouth about women or towards women has been in his raps
 
Propagandist said:
Considering what I know of Dame, the off-court Dame, it doesn't surprise me in the least that he supports this hire. But folks in here? Making a victim with "injuries to [the] throat, cervix, and rectum, along with bruising on her back" out as a money-seeking predator is pretty disappointing. Is it true? Is it not true? After being assaulted in the throat, vagina, and rectum would your mothers and sisters and daughters settle if it looked like justice was unlikely to be served? 22 years old and faced with the lawyers of millionaires...

This rings of another famous raper of women, Kobe Bryant, who admitted with his own words what happened and yet? She settled. (People don't believe her either, but those people obviously haven't read Kobe's own account of the assault.)

Billups admits to sexual contact, but claims it was consensual. Meanwhile, the victim immediately called a friend and told her she'd been rape. The rape kit that clearly suggested rape had occurred. Futhermore, although Billups says he never went to Walker's house, the logistics of his version of the story are almost impossible, and a sealed suit from Walker against Billups is curious to say the least.

Those of you acting like this is some sort of PC war can fuck off. Go tell your wife about the allegations.

All this being said, Billups was not charged. It also seems crazy unlikely that Disney would have hired him at ESPN without a serious vetting. And yet questions linger. What perplexes me--other than the depressing position of the majority of posters in here--is that this franchise would risk their curated "culture" and (clearly phony) good-guy stance to take a chance on an unknown. It hardly seems worth it.
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Good points. I'm not about to get into a debate about an incident as old as this one. I'll just say that if a rape actually occurred, it's too bad the players weren't charged and the matter settled in a court of law. I know that these things are hard to prove, and I understand that the pressures on a victim to avoid the ugliness of a trial and everything that goes with it. Settling for cash can look a whole lot more enticing than having your whole sexual history trotted out in court. That said, taking that route means that the "truth" never gets settled upon and everyone involved can play the events in their own least-objectionable way. One question I have is whether the Blazers are using the media, with the "leak" to Woj as a way to run a PR test before making a formal announcement. It wouldn't surprise me at all, given the social media blow-up it's causing, for them to pivot to another candidate and say that they had never really decided on Billups.
 
Propagandist said:
No shit. We are talking about sexual assault.
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No you aren't.
You are specifically talking about someone accepting and working with someone who was at one point accused of sexual assault and another that was involved in a domestic with his wife.
I am certain that someone in your own personal circle of friends, work associates, family or even church have had those same issues.
Glass houses!
 
e_blazer said:
One question I have is whether the Blazers are using the media, with the "leak" to Woj as a way to run a PR test before making a formal announcement. It wouldn't surprise me at all, given the social media blow-up it's causing, for them to pivot to another candidate and say that they had never really decided on Billups.
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I would be very surprised if this was the case. The media members in question are very influential and would probably turn on Olshey if this proved to be true. If you're going to do that, pick some minor media members to use.
 
julius said:
I doubt the city will run off Damian.
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The timing is not good. The reports that he’s antsy and his less than convincing commitment to the team right now. If he feels attacked by the city it might be the final nail in the coffin.
 
I mentioned this is I think the coaching search thread but looking at the dates of when it was settled Billups was playing in Denver.

Most players have some sort of liability umbrella insurance policy.

That's who would have been handling this.

For a criminal defense, Billups would have hired attorneys, civil the insurance company deals with it.

Billups insurance company could have made an offer to make this go away.

Yes, Billups could have rejected it but then any settlement and all the expenses would be coming out of his pocket, not the insurance company.

Billups would have had to miss games and the salary from those games.

I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty, but sometimes people who are innocent will accept a settlement. This happens in both criminal and civil matters all the time.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I mentioned this is I think the coaching search thread but looking at the dates of when it was settled Billups was playing in Denver.

Most players have some sort of liability umbrella insurance policy.

That's who would have been handling this.

For a criminal defense, Billups would have hired attorneys, civil the insurance company deals with it.

Billups insurance company could have made an offer to make this go away.

Yes, Billups could have rejected it but then any settlement and all the expenses would be coming out of his pocket, not the insurance company.

Billups would have had to miss games and the salary from those games.

I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty, but sometimes people who are innocent will accept a settlement. This happens in both criminal and civil matters all the time.
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Get out of here with your logic and reason and bring back the ball I just threw.
 
Did anyone see the rumor that Stotts is a candidate to be Vogels lead assistant? Please let that happen so I can fully shit on him.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Good -
No charges…….That’s it


Bad -
His story makes no sense
He settled
Only 2-11% of rape cases are false
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What is 'his story'? I've only seen the accusations. Although I have to say there felt like there were some gaps in that story too
 
Fitz303 said:
No it didn't. This hasn't been brought up at all until Portland got involved. These are the articles that I found on Billups just last year on the Clippers hire. I TRIED to find anything about the allegations from 24 years ago in any article. Maybe someone else can dig it up, but I can't find a single mention. Just from this fanbase. I wish Portland fans could just be happy that this franchise just got a hell of a talented ex basketball player who seems primed to be a very god coach.

https://clipperholics.com/2020/10/20/la-clippers-adding-larry-drew-chauncey-billups-assistants/
This is the type of writing that was out there about Billups last year: "Since his retirement from the NBA in 2014, there’s been an expectation that Billups would find himself wearing a suit on the sidelines one day, and that time has come. As the point guard of the 2004 NBA Champion Detroit Pistons, Chauncey has seen a team that wins through hard-nosed defense and playing together. We can only hope that he brings that same sort of leadership to the Clippers as a coach."

https://basketballforever.com/2020/10/15/clippers-hire-tyronn-lue-as-head-coach
"Good news is Lue could be getting some good minds on the bench. It was also reported that it looks as if Chauncey Billups will be his lead assistant. Which would be a tremendous hire for Lue, as Billups is very defensive oriented and thought by many as one of the highest IQ players of his time."

Even this more recent article from the Boston Herald makes no mention of it, while simultaneously making mention of Kidd's past. They mention Billups as everyone's favorite in Boston (which was very accurate) - https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/06/03/0603-bh-s-celtics/
"He’s everyone’s favorite candidate, and maybe even overdue for a head coaching position despite only one season (2020-21) as an assistant on Ty Lue’s staff. But he fits the current ideal of a former player — the 2004 NBA Finals MVP — who can command the respect of a locker room immediately."

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...stons-los-angeles-clippers-ty-lue/3668045001/
https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/09/13/indiana-pacers-chauncey-billups-time/ - Pacers site wanting to hire Billups
https://thunderousintentions.com/2020/10/29/okc-thunder-chauncey-billups-candidate/ - Clippers site wanting to hire Billups
This is the ONLY article that I found that made any mention whatsoever of Billups' past - https://pelicandebrief.com/2020/09/04/new-orleans-pelicans-chauncey-billups/2/
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Yeah this is the weird thing. The dude hasn’t caught any flack until now. It sucks that we are the ones who get to eat the bullet after 20 years.
 
i highly doubt dame didnt know about the rape allegation, but even if he didnt, i highly doubt he didnt know about jason kidd beating his wife and he endorsed him

that tells me dame has no probem with it and i highly doubt players will have issues with billups being named a head coach

some fans will hold a grudge against billups, but they will stop talking about it with time
 
Mr. Robot said:
i highly doubt dame didnt know about the rape allegation, but even if he didnt, i highly doubt he didnt know about jason kidd beating his wife and he endorsed him

that tells me dame has no probem with it and i highly doubt players will have issues with billups being named a head coach

some fans will hold a grudge against billups, but they will stop talking about it with time
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I didnt know about it around the time the Haynes' piece came out
 
Mr. Robot said:
some fans will hold a grudge against billups, but they will stop talking about it with time
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They will stop talking if the team wins. Lets be clear here. If this team even begins to struggle and has any problems this will just add fuel to the fire. As in "Fire Billups"
 
Fitz303 said:
No it didn't. This hasn't been brought up at all until Portland got involved. These are the articles that I found on Billups just last year on the Clippers hire. I TRIED to find anything about the allegations from 24 years ago in any article. Maybe someone else can dig it up, but I can't find a single mention. Just from this fanbase. I wish Portland fans could just be happy that this franchise just got a hell of a talented ex basketball player who seems primed to be a very god coach.
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If that's not the most Portland thing ever, I'm not sure what is. We can't have good things because we can't be happy when we have them. Better to find the bad in a good situation.
 
People make mistakes, i've made them. But it's what you do after that, that defines who you are. Billups has been a model for how to accomplish goals in a man's life, both professionally, and on the home front. And making Dame out to be some sort of villain in this is absolutely asinine . The agendas brought by some in here are pathetic. I've seen this before, where a good thing is happening, and a person who's unhappy with their own situation takes it upon themselves to pollute it with ugliness. The personal demons people keep inside themselves are often worst than any punishment dealt. Especially in people who've made a mistake, but have lived a clean and purposeful existence after. Let's live in the now, and move forward. Damn!
 
tykendo said:
People make mistakes, i've made them. But it's what you do after that, that defines who you are.
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If Billups raped that woman, it's not a "mistake" and passing it off as "everyone makes mistakes" is morally repugnant.

If he didn't rape her or sexually assault her in any way, then there's nothing to even call a mistake unless you mean that, while innocent, he made mistakes that make him look more guilty.
 
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