Notice Chauncey Billups new Portland Trail Blazers head coach

[Natebishop3]

Seriously getting vibes of 2015 when we lost Aldridge. I don't think we're that hopeless yet, but next year for sure...

If we get "Robert Covington has been traded for Aaron Nesmith and Tristan Thompson" before the draft ala "Batum for Vonleh and Henderson", while Neil tries to tell is how good Nesmith is, that's when I'll know the end is near.

So at what point do you cut your losses? We can't afford to get a bad return on Dame.

 

[crandc]

“Hammon impressed Portland officials and was generally liked among Blazers staffers, sources said. But when Portland reached out for intel from San Antonio figures, the background on Hammon was not nearly as complimentary pertaining to various aspects of day-to-day coaching responsibilities. That sentiment has been echoed by sources around the league. Blazers personnel then cast doubt that Hammon was the candidate to steer the ship through such delicate waters with Lillard.”E]

Who is doing PR for the Blazers? Terrible to publicly trash candidates not hired. Especially when only done to the one female candidate. I don't see negativity about D'Antoni.

Just say you hired best fit FFS.

 

[B-Roy]

So at what point do you cut your losses? We can't afford to get a bad return on Dame.

Unless you believe Dame is gonna tear his achilles or something, you ride out this season. Are the offers next year going to be worse than the ones this year? (Hint: no)

 

[Natebishop3]

Three time all American
Six time all star
Twice all WNBA first team and twice second team
Led league in assists
Number retired
Coached summer league champions
Assistant seven years, five more than Billups

Do you want me to give you Magic Johnson's career accomplishments? He was a horrible coach. Being a good player means nothing. Michael Jordan has proven to be an AWFUL GM and Owner. The best player of all time is a horrible judge of talent and deals.

 

[Scalma]

Three time all American
Six time all star
Twice all WNBA first team and twice second team
Led league in assists
Number retired
Coached summer league champions
Assistant seven years, five more than Billups

The only one you listed there that would matter to an NBA team hiring a head coach is the last one, yet Billups has been around the league a lot longer and has experience in a lot more systems. She ain’t ready.

 

[Hoopguru]

Its encouraging to read that the Blazers intend to surround Billups with experienced assistant coaches. I wonder who he will try and bring along?

 

[BBert]

So at what point do you cut your losses? We can't afford to get a bad return on Dame.

When he turns 40

 

[B-Roy]

Three time all American
Six time all star
Twice all WNBA first team and twice second team
Led league in assists
Number retired
Coached summer league champions
Assistant seven years, five more than Billups

The resume gets you the interview, it doesn’t guarantee you the job. Or at least that’s how most jobs work.

 

[Natebishop3]

The resume gets you the interview, it doesn’t guarantee you the job. Or at least that’s how most jobs work.

Most of that resume has nothing to do with coaching.

 

[JoshuaHall]

Three time all American
Six time all star
Twice all WNBA first team and twice second team
Led league in assists
Number retired
Coached summer league champions
Assistant seven years, five more than Billups

none of this is relevant. Completely different league. The players do not find this relatable at all.
I know you disagree, but players don’t give a shit about WNBA credentials. Most don’t even give a shît about foreign credentials.

similarly to how foreign coaches rarely get a look in the nba and are questioned if it will translate. Or players, like Luka, or Rubio etc

 

[JoshuaHall]

So at what point do you cut your losses? We can't afford to get a bad return on Dame.

Here’s what you do.
You tell Dame tough shit, put your big boy pants on, and we will trade you in a couple years for a bunch of garbage picks and scrubs.

Unless we get a great return. Otherwise you pull a Popovich and tell him look, we aren’t going to get anything remotely as valuable as you are, so get ready to lose the next 4 years of your career sitting out, or let’s figure this out.

 

[riverman]

When he turns 40

nah...he'll retire a Blazer at 43 to beat Vince Carter's record and Dame, Lebron and Melo will buy the Blazers then with the profits from Space Jam 7

 

[B-Roy]

Most of that resume has nothing to do with coaching.

I kind of disagree with that, it's basketball. Basketball is the same sport whether you're a man or a woman.

What I don't get, is when people just bring up her resume and her glowing recommendations as a reason why she should get the job. In my field, the resume and recommendations is exactly how you get the interview, but how you perform in the interview is usually much more important. I've been on both sides of the interview process and I've seen people with less experience come in and do better work than people with 4-5 years of additional experience. I've also see extremely experienced hires bomb after getting the job and get fired within months. It's somewhat of a crapshoot, but usually the interview is the most predicative tool.

I was pretty excited when I heard Becky was going to on the list of interviewee candidates, until I started looking into more of her history. She's interviewed for many positions and hasn't been able to get past the first round in any of them. That is a red flag. You would think she would at least make final rounds somewhere given how many places she's gotten a look. Now I don't deny that gender dynamics is at least a consideration if you're going to hire her. I mean, it kind of has to be. But that's also why you need to make sure that if you hire her, that she is the most exceptional and capable candidate for the job. Like it or not, being the first woman to become the head coach of an all-male league does set a precedent, and if she bombs it will set a negative precedent in the future for all other female candidates vying for a head coaching position.

Like I said, I think a female head coach is inevitable at some point, (and I'm all for it!) but I don't believe Hammon will the first.

 

[riverman]

We should assume Chauncey outperformed D'Antoni and Hammon in the Seattle sit down interviews...like the NBA championship....several great teams are not going to win it but those three were contenders

 

[Natebishop3]

nah...he'll retire a Blazer at 43 to beat Vince Carter's record and Dame, Lebron and Melo will buy the Blazers then with the profits from Space Jam 7

It's like I'm listening to the "LA won't leave us!" crowd all over again.

 

[Scalma]

I kind of disagree with that, it's basketball. Basketball is the same sport whether you're a man or a woman.

There are vast differences tho within leagues. Euroleague and how players are coached there for example is different than in the NBA. Players are there to serve the head coach. It’s not a players driven league like in the NBA and you’ll see coaches be super successful there that would never survive over here. Actually, I don’t remember the last euroleague guy that came over and was that successful.

I don’t know as much about the WNBA, but it may as well be college when compared to the NBA. Different speed, different pressures. It’d be like comparing minor league baseball to the majors. Same sport, sure, but very different.

 

[Hoopguru]

If he wants to leave (which most wouldn't want to happen) then he needs to work it out or finish his contract. Obviously we would like him to re-sign here but if the man wants to relocate then Im sure he will work with Portland to orchestrate a trade.
These are young men that came into the league at very young ages, and if they want to move on, I understand. If they want to stay, its speaks well of not just the city, but management, coaching and fandom these days can cut both ways.
What were you doing at thirty and were you convinced you'd be doing the same thing in the same forever if you had other great opportunities as options?

 

[Natebishop3]

I kind of disagree with that, it's basketball. Basketball is the same sport whether you're a man or a woman.

Sure, but playing and coaching are two completely different skillsets. There have been plenty of guys who have come through Portland that had shit BBIQs. I mean... Travis Outlaw.... really nice guy... dumb as a box of rocks. Played in the league for 11 years. Doesn't mean I'd want him coaching anyone. Teaching and leadership are a skillset all their own. Being a really good player doesn't mean you possess either of them. Does Billups have them? He seems to have the leadership quality and some of the videos would lead me to believe that he knows his stuff, but will he be good at adjustments? Will he be good at rotations? Will he be able to reign in a player that is being selfish? I have no idea. I can only hope. Maybe Becky would have been good at those things too. I don't know. But being a really good player doesn't mean squat to me. Just like not all good employees make good managers. People skills are a key component that not everyone possesses.

 

[B-Roy]

There are vast differences tho within leagues. Euroleague and how players are coached there for example is different than in the NBA. Players are there to serve the head coach. It’s not a players driven league like in the NBA and you’ll see coaches be super successful there that would never survive over here. Actually, I don’t remember the last euroleague guy that came over and was that successful.

I don’t know as much about the WNBA, but it may as well be college when compared to the NBA. Different speed, different pressures. It’d be like comparing minor league baseball to the majors. Same sport, sure, but very different.

I'm not saying it's 1:1, but to say it's completely irrelevant is not being realstic imo.

 

[Hoopguru]

There are vast differences tho within leagues. Euroleague and how players are coached there for example is different than in the NBA. Players are there to serve the head coach. It’s not a players driven league like in the NBA and you’ll see coaches be super successful there that would never survive over here. Actually, I don’t remember the last euroleague guy that came over and was that successful.

I don’t know as much about the WNBA, but it may as well be college when compared to the NBA. Different speed, different pressures. It’d be like comparing minor league baseball to the majors. Same sport, sure, but very different.

Mike D

 

[Paine Tablet]

"Hammon impressed Portland officials and was generally liked among Blazers staffers, sources said. But when Portland reached out for intel from San Antonio figures, the background on Hammon was not nearly as complimentary pertaining to various aspects of day-to-day coaching responsibilities. That sentiment has been echoed by sources around the league."

Sounds like the author verified this stuff outside Portland.

I do know that BonesJones stated on Blazers Uprise not too long ago that he heard rumors from a Spurs source about some of these same types of concerns about Hammon. Odd that he would have such information prior to this dramafest. Odd in the sense that people are speculating it doesn't have merit, whereas if it was a prior rumor then it would lend more credence to it being true.

 

[Natebishop3]

I do know that BonesJones stated on Blazers Uprise not too long ago that he heard rumors from a Spurs source about some of these same types of concerns about Hammon. Odd that he would have such information prior to this dramafest.

Bones was repeating what he saw here from @calvin natt

 

[calvin natt]

I do know that BonesJones stated on Blazers Uprise not too long ago that he heard rumors from a Spurs source about some of these same types of concerns about Hammon. Odd that he would have such information prior to this dramafest. Odd in the sense that people are speculating it doesn't have merit, whereas if it was a prior rumor then it would lend more credence to it being true.

hmmm

 

[Tweak]

And the same thing was echoed by the Bleacher Report today.

"Hammon impressed Portland officials and was generally liked among Blazers staffers, sources said. But when Portland reached out for intel from San Antonio figures, the background on Hammon was not nearly as complimentary pertaining to various aspects of day-to-day coaching responsibilities. That sentiment has been echoed by sources around the league. Blazers personnel then cast doubt that Hammon was the candidate to steer the ship through such delicate waters with Lillard."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ed-nba-head-coaching-hires-in-portland-dallas

 

[KristinthBonkers]

Jeanie Buss would like to have a word with you

I mean LeBron pretty much runs the Lakers but I felt I was forgetting someone.

My brain has a default where I never think about the Lakers unless I see something about them lol.

 

[crandc]

Agree, resume gets interview, not offer. Agree, great players can be lousy coaches. Very possible Blazers thought Billups best fit. And it's water under the bridge. My point was that Hammon has qualifications beyond being an assistant.

Also possible some men don't want a female coach. Polls have consistently shown people will vote for a female Senator who would not vote for a female Governor or President. The idea of women in charge ruffles feathers.

But I am old enough to remember hearing white guys wouldn't want to play under a Black manager/ head coach. That is now considered stupid. Thing is, it always was.

I wish Billups success. I hope Hammon has a stellar NBA coaching career.

 

[Mediocre Man]

What can I say? He's rubbed off on me.

Keep whatever you two do in your personal time to yourself

 

[KristinthBonkers]

I hope he has NOT overcome humility.

I poorly-worded my post and you make an excellent point.

Keep the humility and overcome the shame and embarrassment.

 

[KristinthBonkers]

Dude.... the Blazers are getting SLAMMED on Reddit for this Becky Hammon article. Everyone is saying they leaked this to try to deflect off the Chauncey hire.

Blazer Reddit is a much younger and more immature version of Twitter. Half of them seemingly don’t know the difference between a civil suit and a criminal conviction.

Lurking that sub is a fascinating read of double standards and ignorance. Someone posted that stuff about Hammon long before she was a candidate for the Blazers job. I can’t remember where it was, but I saw it.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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