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are you happy that chauncey billups got the job

  • yes

    Votes: 80 59.7%

  • no

    Votes: 10 7.5%

  • yes, but he was not my first choice

    Votes: 19 14.2%

  • meh, im indifferent

    Votes: 25 18.7%
  • Total voters
    134
kjironman1 said:
So i decided to enter the world that is S2 - Oregonian - Blazers Edge

Some of you have lost your collective minds. That idiot John Clownzappa has completely lost it! Dave Deckard has pretty much Convicted Billups all on his fucking own?

I posted this on Blazers Edge. I doubt it will be there more than a few minutes because i called out the Emperor/Fascist Leader/King whatever they call him there.

I personally feel Dave Deckard should not have posted this until Chauncy Billups has a chance to address it.
This situation and conversation has gotten way out of line and the man has the right to address it. Problem is he can’t until it is officially announced and the opportunity has been given to him to answer any questions about the situation. He is still an assistant for the Clippers and they have a series to play.
Posting this story just like John Canzano has done, was not just a poor choice but is was reckless at best. The court of public opinion is something journalist and people in the journalistic community have an obligation to respect.
Dave Deckard failed to respect the powers that he has here.
Seems a number of comments on this site get Deleted. It’s why i post here very seldom. I hope that this comment gets the respect it deserves because it is also part of the issue. You cannot publish a story without the author being held accountable just as much as the accused. It’s the same as you cannot endorse someone without being held responsible for that endorsement.

Fact of the matter is Rape is an ugly and violent crime and perpetrators of that crime should be convicted to the fullest extent that the law allows. The problem here is that absolutely NONE of these women were raped or sexually abused by Chauncy Billups but somehow Mr Deckard has sullied Mr Billups by connecting him to not only these 5 women but even worse All rape victims.

I would hope in the future Mr Deckard and along with him Mr Canzano of the Oregonian would choose to use a greater amount of restraint in their quest for "Clicks" on the internet. People who are accused have the right to defend themselves. In this case Mr Billups has not been allowed that opportunity and by the time he does public opinion will have already made it’s decision.

Kjironman!

Please tell me @SlyPokerDog has not gone all "Kill the Rapist" on this site?

Also. Maybe you guys should just chill a bit? Nothing can get addressed until Billups gets a chance to address it publicly. He should address it i agree but he deserves the chance in my opinion.
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Ok I agree but did you really call Deckard a journalist?

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Paine Tablet said:
Not one ounce of self-awareness. It's as if you have no history and were just plopped into current reality with no fathoming of the past where rad libs, i.e. intersectionalists, BLM(front-facing persona) AOC(front-facing persona), Antifa, modern feminists, trans crusaders) and shit libs, i.e. AOC(true nature), BLM(true nature), Hillary, Biden, modern feminists, Elizabeth Warren, technocratic institutions, NATSEC, MSM) didn't dictate social discourse. It's as the great Aimee Terese says: they are all one thing. But you play dumb and act like I said, as an alien to this planet where the past has no relevance to you. So what you call weird is just your inability to recognize your pact with the devil. Dame isn't being weird, your fucking grasp of reality and your cause is what is weird. You have no idea -do you - that we are moving closer and closer to a fascist, one party state and it's all by design, and yet you somehow think you are the one fighting against fascism, but it's you who is bringing it closer to reality.



Here is an example:

race relations were much better in this country when Obama was elected. There is data that tracks interracial attitudes and they confirm what anyone with a memory of the time would remember. Now we can ask why race relations have soured. If your answer is white supremacy and not the people peddling their theories, exaggerations, and distortions about white supremacy then you are part of the problem.
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Strikes me as odd that you are talking about race and politics and I guess religion because Dame endorsed an accused rapist to be the coach of a sports team.

This is the sports section of this here forum, but I can tell you with certainty that you do not know what fascism is. Read more, then embarrass yourself.

You are all aware that you watch a sport in which the players are likely 99% liberal? Remember the bubble? Players wore words that irked the likes of you and Q. Remember the protests? Players walked with the protesters. Dame led the way. I'm afraid you are following that and those which you villify.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
EXACTLY. Everyone defending him is like "it's not fair to him to deny him this job!" Bullshit. It's not HIS FUCKING JOB. It's open to all, and he's far from the best candidate. He's just Olshey's candidate. Probably this is some behind the scenes agent agreement anyway.
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And IMO, that’s great for Billups. He could turn out to be the greatest. BUT, regardless of that this was a stupid hire for Olshey.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
If Olshey's intent was to break S2, then mission accomplished. Somebody said that America was a motel room and Trump was a black light, and I'm certainly getting that same vibe seeing some of the responses on this thread. I haven't felt this bad about the Blazers since the Summer of LaMarcus Leaving. But somehow this is worse, because that was like ripping off a bandaid - bad, and then we can start fresh. This is like when we signed Ruben Patterson, only worse. Really making me hate some of my fellow Blazer fans (the worst of which seem to have suddenly found their voice).
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Ruben Patterson plead guilty and has to register as a sex offender. No charges were brought against Billups and he paid some money to make something he wasn’t charged for go away. Seems different.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
EXACTLY. Everyone defending him is like "it's not fair to him to deny him this job!" Bullshit. It's not HIS FUCKING JOB. It's open to all, and he's far from the best candidate. He's just Olshey's candidate. Probably this is some behind the scenes agent agreement anyway.
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Olshey is the Blazers GM...you don't like him fine but a GM usually hires the candidate they think is best...the job was not open for all...it was paired down to a handful of second interviews that included Dame....if you don't trust the Blazers front office and think Chauncey is a cancer on society...maybe rethink your allegiance to the franchise because the vetting is over and it IS HIS JOB NOW...Welcome Chauncey Billups! I'm going to cheer for his continued success here as a basketball coach and mentor to our players.
 
crandc said:
I can't say worse than Patterson. In that case there were no doubts, the team blew off concerns and he added nothing to the team.
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The blazers under Olshey have brought in nothing but high character guys...when’s the last time they had an arrest or even questionable behavior? Billups also had no issues before or in the 24 years after this “incident.” At what point do you give them the benefit of the doubt?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Did the team really think there wouldn’t be this kind of reaction?

Did they not prepare Dame for it?
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I truly did not think there would be. It didnt even cross my mind. If you look at most other boards and other teams, hardly anybody brings this stuff up. Dallas fans are, for the most part, happy with Kidd. Little is said about his actual conviction (worse than Billups). Most have let the past be the past. NOBODY has brought up Billups' accusation in YEARS. Go look at message boards of the entire NBA. Most fans of other teams like the hire for Portland. I've found only one article from anyone outside of Portland who has even mentioned the accusation in recent years. Billups has denied the accusation, was never convicted of anything, has been a model citizen for the 24 years since, has won the J Walter Kennedy citizenship award (The J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award is an annual National Basketball Association award given since 1975 to a player, coach, or staff member who shows "outstanding service and dedication to the community."), and is beloved elsewhere. But because Portland has to be outraged at all times if not being super progressive in their moves, they lash out by digging up dirt from the 90s. It's truly amazing to me. I wont underestimate Portland again. This city has officially lost its collective mind (at least the vocal minority)
 
royo said:
I always thought you are sensible man, but in this case, I think, you surfing on a very high emotional wave. While I am with you on "protect women" culture wholeheartedly, I am aware that some women ride on rape accusations as their full time job. Paraphrasing you: "Go and ask your women if false accusations after actions are possible." Not saying that this was the case here, but in given circumstances it is at least possible. And going tru this tread pages I hear everything about Billups and don't know nothing about Jane Doe and that info could really clarify what happened.

I am myself torned here, but saying "this signing is the biggest misstep of the Olshey era" shows how far you lost your mind here:)
I am torned, cos I clearly don't need rapist as a coach, but from basketball point of view I belive this could be our best coach in years.
From basketball point of view he could be totally opposite of Stotts.
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I'm not saying Chauncey is guilty. Fuck if I know. But man am I getting a lot of shit for thinking that an explanation is in order. Why is that a crazy notion? Why is it wrong to be irked by a bunch of dudes in an internet forum acting like it makes sense? It doesn't make sense. An explanation is certainly forthcoming, but all I've heard so far--and it isn't without merit--that he's been vetted. But that is simply a word. We need details.

Right or wrong, what you do matters. It follows you, oftentimes, defines you. Olshey did not read the room when he hired Billups. It was a clumsy mistake, and might end up being a huge mistake, which is all I was saying. Everyone is putting my theoretical exercise into a strange category.
 
At this point it seems like half of fanbase would be happy to welcome Stotts back as a perfect fit for their "culture".

And I was one leg od Becky's train, but I had this one concern. This team needs some strong voice and it is, imo, big risk, that Becky could not be enough to make our players work.
We BADLY need someone, who can wake our stars the fuck up. I'm done watching CJ's stupid, selfish play, done with Nurk keeping his head down and Melo trying to climb in scorers list.
I think that, from basketball point, Billups is someone who we need in this team right now.

...but I can't really go over this rape until it is all clear.
 
Orion Bailey said:
wait what? Physical world in Portland? So you hang out with him and the women in his life and have enough direct contact to see how he is physically, in the real world, with the women in his life????

Please log off the net for a while bro…
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Yes, 100%.

No need to be rude.
 
calvin natt said:
I’m having trouble following. So people should or should not be mad?
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Yep, the world just falls into dichotomous neat piles when you examine it: right and wrong, black and white, what the fuck...

I think people should view things critically. This situation is unusual and deserves to be examined. I'm honestly (not) astonished that folks in here are so resistant to doing so.
 
Propagandist said:
Yep, the world just falls into dichotomous neat piles when you examine it: right and wrong, black and white, what the fuck...

I think people should view things critically. This situation is unusual and deserves to be examined. I'm honestly (not) astonished that folks in here are so resistant to doing so.
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You're assuming the people who vet candidates have not been through this process and in doing that also contribute to trying someone in the court of public opinion....which is basically what happened on Jan 6th.....I think this whole topic has been sensationalized and 100 percent of that is fanbase driven....innocent until proven guilty and the statute of limitations are in place for a damned good reason. More of this dysfunctional torch and pitchfork ranting is going to hurt the team and lose the progress made under Dame to attract free agents or re-sign a guy like Norm. People need to chill the fuck out or stop following a team led by someone they don't apparently have trust or faith in....I read the info about his case and there wasn't even enough proof of guilt by Chauncey to arrest a black man in Boston 24 years ago....irish cops were never known in Boston for their open mindedness especially when it came to black rape suspects......my gut says it's resolved.
 
riverman said:
You're assuming the people who vet candidates have not been through this process and in doing that also contribute to trying someone in the court of public opinion....which is basically what happened on Jan 6th.....I think this whole topic has been sensationalized and 100 percent of that is fanbase driven....innocent until proven guilty and the statute of limitations are in place for a damned good reason. More of this dysfunctional torch and pitchfork ranting is going to hurt the team and lose the progress made under Dame to attract free agents or re-sign a guy like Norm. People need to chill the fuck out or stop following a team led by someone they don't apparently have trust or faith in....I read the info about his case and there wasn't even enough proof of guilt by Chauncey to arrest a black man in Boston 24 years ago....irish cops were never known in Boston for their open mindedness especially when it came to black rape suspects......my gut says it's resolved.
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People just don’t think before they speak anymore. Social media, twitter specifically, almost demands immediate reaction, and often times those are emotionally driven. Mix that in with a tribe mentality that seemingly runs today’s world (ie if you don’t immediately condemn Billups with the rest of us you are now a rape apologist and a garbage human) and you get what we’ve seen in the last day or so.

Once this all cools down, and it will because there’s really nothing there, a lot of fans are gonna have to go back on their own words. And most of them will, because they never really cared in the first place.
 
julius said:
It would be kind of funny if the whole Billups leak was done to test the waters/response and also to totally throw people off the scent.
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someone relay that dame lol
 
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