Chris Paul trade ideas! (post them here please)

[Natebishop3]

Blazers trade
$7,405,300 Pryzbilla (expiring)
$7,269,264 Miller (team option 2011-2012)
$6,796,524 Oden
$2,292,600 Bayless (team option 2011-2012)
$1,196,760 Batum (team option 2011-2012)

$24,960,448
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Hornets trade
$14,940,152 Paul
$11,540,375 Okafor

$26,480,527
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Which would leave us with

Paul/Williams/Johnson
Roy/Rudy
Babbitt/Cunningham
Aldridge/Pendergraph
Okafor/Camby

I would make a push for another small forward. I think our frontcourt would be fine with Aldridge, Okafor, and Camby splitting minutes between the two frontcourt spots. I would like to hold onto Rudy just to see if last season was a fluke. I also think he would do better with Paul.

I would either go for Morrow, or sign Matthews and try to trade Rudy for a small forward.

 

[illmatic99]

That was my offer prior to the draft. And I agree that SF would be a weak spot. We would still have our MLE to fill that void.

 

[EGame]

I would do this deal. No ides from me because this is a similar trade I would do. Of course, I would explore trying to trade Aldridge before Oden, but I just don't think the Hornets bite on Aldridge. Horrible contract and fit next to West.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Are the numbers wrong on Trade Machine? Here's one that's like yours that works on that. (Can swap Joel for Andre because they have identical salaries, but Trade Machine won't let you trade Joel yet.)

[Edit: huge difference between yours and mine: Oden. I like mine much better!]

 

[Wheels]

yikes that lineup with Paul, Roy, LMA, Oden and Morrow opening things up outside. Scary!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Where are you getting your salary numbers?

 

[Wheels]

whoops just read you included Oden in the deal.. I'm a dipwit lol.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Just noticed Oden in there. I would not trade Oden for Paul. Not even straight up. Call me insane if you like, but Chris Paul is still barely 6 feet tall, and Oden is still a monster. And Paul takes away from Brandon, whereas Oden adds.

 

[andalusian]

I am not playing with the trade machine until Paul Allen pays me at least $800K a year.

There. Sand. Line. Cross it if you want.

 

[Idog1976]

yikes that lineup with Paul, Roy, LMA, Oden and Morrow opening things up outside. Scary!

Oden was included in the OP's trade hence I give it a thumbs down. Oden could become a 25 PER guy with CP3 feeding him. No joke I'm saying Oden to top 10 players in the league overnight. Really no ceiling for him if healthy with Roy and CP3.

 

[Natebishop3]

Salaries
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm

ESPN is still showing last season's salaries. I listed the 2010/2011 salaries.

 

[Idog1976]

Just noticed Oden in there. I would not trade Oden for Paul. Not even straight up. Call me insane if you like, but Chris Paul is still barely 6 feet tall, and Oden is still a monster. And Paul takes away from Brandon, whereas Oden adds.

I would trade Oden STRAIGHT ACROSS for Paul. But that's it. I don't think you're nuts at all. Oden healthy could be a top 10 player. Oden healthy with CP3 I have zero doubt he's a top ten player and we are challenging the Lakers for Western Championship. Period.

 

[Idog1976]

Salaries
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm

ESPN is still showing last season's salaries. I listed the 2010/2011 salaries.

ESPN trade machine is teh garbage.

Why can't they stay current? I mean how fucking hard is that and why haven't they incorporated bypass of trade restrictions.

I mean why the fuck do I need to wait until July 1st to trade Joel, oh wait I STILL can't trade him cause he's not gonna opt in...right ESPN? WTF OVER?

That said I know the board appreciates each and every barrier to bat-shit insane trades they can throw in my way.

 

[Natebishop3]

Oden was included in the OP's trade hence I give it a thumbs down. Oden could become a 25 PER guy with CP3 feeding him. No joke I'm saying Oden to top 10 players in the league overnight. Really no ceiling for him if healthy with Roy and CP3.

Well, that's what the trade hinges on.... do you stay with Oden and hope for the best, or do you trade for a future HOFer in Paul? I would cut bait and add Paul to our core. I think Paul would make Aldridge and Roy that much better, and I think we can put a couple more pieces around our core to get us to the next level.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Is this sacrilege: I think I'd prefer to give up Roy by himself than Batum and Oden. Because Paul with a a frontcourt of Batum, Aldridge and Oden would be awesome, and Rudy might even be good running alongside Paul (and if not, there's always role-player defend-and-hit-open-three types like Raja Bell available).

 

[Natebishop3]

Is this sacrilege: I think I'd prefer to give up Roy by himself than Batum and Oden. Because Paul with a a frontcourt of Batum, Aldridge and Oden would be awesome, and Rudy might even be good running alongside Paul (and if not, there's always role-player defend-and-hit-open-three types like Raja Bell available).

But they're trying to cut salary, do you think they would trade for Roy? I said I'd do a Roy for Paul swap last season, but I'm not sure they would do it.

 

[illmatic99]

Is this sacrilege: I think I'd prefer to give up Roy by himself than Batum and Oden. Because Paul with a a frontcourt of Batum, Aldridge and Oden would be awesome, and Rudy might even be good running alongside Paul (and if not, there's always role-player defend-and-hit-open-three types like Raja Bell available).

Not really, but if we were getting Paul, I'd think the whole rationale behind acquiring him would be to combine a top 5 player with a top 10 player to comprise the best back court in the NBA.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Is this sacrilege: I think I'd prefer to give up Roy by himself than Batum and Oden. Because Paul with a a frontcourt of Batum, Aldridge and Oden would be awesome, and Rudy might even be good running alongside Paul (and if not, there's always role-player defend-and-hit-open-three types like Raja Bell available).

Roy makes (or will make) almost identical money to Chris Paul and for 1 more year. Wouldn't they be better off just hanging on to him?

 

[Minstrel]

I can't trade Oden and Batum. Even for Paul. It must be a mental block...my mind won't process dealing both away. I'm sorry.

Batum I can handle dealing away. If it were Oden straight up for Paul, I might bite the bullet and do it. Not both.

I want to live in a world where we can keep Roy, Oden and Batum and still get Paul. Aldridge can go. As can Bayless. Miller also. I like all of them, but I can let them go.

Man, I cannot be a GM. Oden and Batum for Paul should be acceptable. Paul is the best point guard since Magic Johnson. Argh.

 

[Idog1976]

Is this sacrilege: I think I'd prefer to give up Roy by himself than Batum and Oden. Because Paul with a a frontcourt of Batum, Aldridge and Oden would be awesome, and Rudy might even be good running alongside Paul (and if not, there's always role-player defend-and-hit-open-three types like Raja Bell available).

I would do it due to Roy's knees. So maybe it's sacrilege, but I'm on board. Keeping Oden, Batum and LMA is juuiiiicccyyyy.

 

[EGame]

Paul would not want to play on our team then. There is a reason he mentioned the names of Roy (who I am sure he is buddies with via the all-star game a few years back) and Aldridge (not exactly an all star, but a proven player).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Well, that's what the trade hinges on.... do you stay with Oden and hope for the best, or do you trade for a future HOFer in Paul? I would cut bait and add Paul to our core. I think Paul would make Aldridge and Roy that much better, and I think we can put a couple more pieces around our core to get us to the next level.

No. You don't trade (very good) big for (great) small. Besides, we've suffered so much with Greg, I want the good stuff if it happens.

Of course, if I knew for sure his legs would drop off in the next three years, THEN I'd do it.

 

[Idog1976]

I can't trade Oden and Batum. Even for Paul. It must be a mental block...my mind won't process dealing both away. I'm sorry.

Batum I can handle dealing away. If it were Oden straight up for Paul, I might bite the bullet and do it. Not both.

I want to live in a world where we can keep Roy, Oden and Batum and still get Paul. Aldridge can go. As can Bayless. Miller also. I like all of them, but I can let them go.

Man, I cannot be a GM. Oden and Batum for Paul should be acceptable. Paul is the best point guard since Magic Johnson. Argh.

The problem is we have ZERO defence if you give up Oden and Batum. I don't want to live in that world either. I would give up LMA and Batum and it would hurt or Oden himself plus non-Batum filler, but I can't destroy our defense. Yes, I know we have Camby but he's old. Oden and Batum is too devastating to that end of the court.

 

[EGame]

Oden has not proven to be very good. He can be and was nice when he played last season. Nothing suggests he is very good, at this point.

 

[Minstrel]

Not really, but if we were getting Paul, I'd think the whole rationale behind acquiring him would be to combine a top 5 player with a top 10 player to comprise the best back court in the NBA.

I just don't think it would efficiently maximize both Roy and Paul. I mean, I love the idea of Roy and Paul (best backcourt in NBA history)...but IF it came down to Roy for Paul or Oden/Batum for Paul (forgetting filler), I'd rather trade Roy. Both Roy and Paul are best with the ball in their hand. With Paul, Roy would have to play off the ball most of the time. I'm sure he can and I'm sure he'd still be good...but AS good? No, I don't think so.

Whereas, Paul would maximize Oden's and Batum's value. Oden and Batum would allow Paul to maximize his own value.

I love Roy, but Paul/Batum/Oden has better synergy than Paul/Roy. IMO.

 

[illmatic99]

Paul would not want to play on our team then. There is a reason he mentioned the names of Roy (who I am sure he is buddies with via the all-star game a few years back) and Aldridge (not exactly an all star, but a proven player).

Chris Paul holds no leverage in these talks. Not sure why you keep on rehashing that article and quote.

No. You don't trade (very good) big for (great) small.

I don't think the whole "don't trade a big for a small" adage holds much credence these days. It's always the best players that win the title.

The problem is we have ZERO defence if you give up Oden and Batum. I don't want to live in that world either. I would give up LMA and Batum and it would hurt or Oden himself plus non-Batum filler, but I can't destroy our defense. Yes, I know we have Camby but he's old. Oden and Batum is too devastating to that end of the court.

I think finding a defensive center in the mold of Kendrick Perkins is much easier than finding a once-in-a-decade type PG like Paul. Hell, Okafor fits the bill.

 

[Idog1976]

Paul would not want to play on our team then. There is a reason he mentioned the names of Roy (who I am sure he is buddies with via the all-star game a few years back) and Aldridge (not exactly an all star, but a proven player).

Does CP3 have a player trade restriction ala Kobe's? I don't think he does. He can't nix it and playing for awhile with Roy and Oden would quickly soothe his pain. Also if we trade LMA I'd rather not part with Batum as well. I mean I would do it for CP3, but I'd look into every option that doesn't include Oden/Roy/Batum before pulling the trigger on that deal. I'm aware of what CP3 said, but I don't think it's up to him ultimately.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

IPaul is the best point guard since Magic Johnson. Argh.

That's bullshit. Jason Kidd was better (did you see the Nets teams he dragged to the Finals? TWICE?), Gary Payton was better (defense is always underrated) and Steve Nash has had a bigger impact. And Penny Hardaway was a PG when he was All-NBA pre-injuries. Paul is good, no question. He may even be Isiah Thomas good. MAY. But then again, there are those who already think Deron Williams is better and Rajon Rondo is coming up fast.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Roy makes (or will make) almost identical money to Chris Paul and for 1 more year. Wouldn't they be better off just hanging on to him?

Part of the Paul thing is money, but another part is Collison, and a third is Paul (allegedly) not wanting to be there. I think we'd still have to add something to make Roy-for-Paul interesting ($$, Bayless?, Freeland?), but I don't think it's out of the question.

 

[Natebishop3]

No. You don't trade (very good) big for (great) small. Besides, we've suffered so much with Greg, I want the good stuff if it happens.

Of course, if I knew for sure his legs would drop off in the next three years, THEN I'd do it.

I just don't know man. Oden's injury last season was a fluke.... but it's still concerning. His knee cap collapsed without contact... that doesn't worry you? We've already passed on Durant for Oden, I don't think I'll make the same mistake when offered the best point guard in the NBA for Oden.