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blazedanugz said:
Everyone is acting like these trades are so terrible…
They HAD to be done. You think Cronin really just took worse deals? i would bet the offers in the table were not what we all think they were. Neil wouldn’t tear it down because he knew this would be the return and he would get fired. Cronin is doing what is necessary to move forward
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I don't think people's criticisms of the return are unfounded, regardless of the need to tear it down to an extent and try to reload. I just think it's too early right now and other factors need to be considered before we can really have a full view of whether these trades were a success or a failure. I also don't think the trades that brought in the players dealt in the last few days are really relevant.
 
MickZagger said:
Woj says the plan is to now pursue high end talent..

mmmkay. Shouldn’t that always be the pursuit? Now we’re banking on free agent signings? Lol
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What's the Blazers definition of high end talent?
 
Chris Craig said:
Pels will make the play in and maybe the playoffs
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Only if Zion comes back and can actually play. Outside that, I don't see it happening for them. Their defense just got a bit of a downgrade with CJ for Hart.
 
I'm depressed, capspace means shit here. I thought this might mean they want to resign Nurk but apparently they're trying to trade him too. I don't see any scenario, given we aren't going to get any meaningful free agents, how the outcome of all this makes us better next year. The grass is not always greener, no matter how much an incompetent interim GM and some fans on a message board think it is.

I really am starting to wonder if Dame is going to start thinking about leaving, especially if we give Nurk away in the same fashion. This looks like a total rebuild during his prime. Instead of trying to get better we just blow it up and get a pile of shit in return.

Haven't felt this down on the team in a long time.
 
Can't waif for the 'Polishing of the Turd' edition of Rip City Radio when Travis comes on. He was really working the polish of the Powell/RoCo trade. The next white-washing should be interesting.
 
craigehlo said:
Only if Zion comes back and can actually play. Outside that, I don't see it happening for them. Their defense just got a bit of a downgrade with CJ for Hart.
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He should be back. We will see.
 
TBpup said:
Can't waif for the 'Polishing of the Turd' edition of Rip City Radio when Travis comes on. He was really working the polish of the Powell/RoCo trade. The next white-washing should be interesting.
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they really need to replace him. He’s employed by the team…it’s so annoying when he talks blazers
 
Who can we get for 16 mil of capspace?

If Cronin tries to sell you the capspace/FA plan, please please please don't fall for it.
 
blazedanugz said:
Everyone is acting like these trades are so terrible…
They HAD to be done. You think Cronin really just took worse deals? i would bet the offers in the table were not what we all think they were. Neil wouldn’t tear it down because he knew this would be the return and he would get fired. Cronin is doing what is necessary to move forward
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It just depends on what you mean by the worst deals. Do I think that Cronin turned down more talent in order to clear more money? Yeah I do. Do I think that a lot of veteran GMs would have gotten more in draft assets while dumping salary??? Again, I definitely do. These aren't things I can prove but without exception around the internet right now (Twitter, Reddit, etc.) no Pelicans fans have a problem with this deal at all. Same thing with Clippers fans since Friday. We didn't come close to putting the screws to these teams, they got over on us because we just wanted to clear salary and they knew it. I'm just saying that due to so many uninterested parties and people on our side saying we left picks on the table... we left picks on the table.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
While I think the value we got isn't great, especially since Nance is out too (Makes you wish we just kept DJJ and still had our first). I'm actually excited to see what happens next. At the very least we won't have to see this similar team trotted out night after night with delusions of contending. I got sick of hearing people thinking a small tweak to the Nurk, Dame. Cj core could be a force.

Please get a real GM this offseason though.
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I don't get it - what did Nance show? Besides the usual injury bug what I saw on the court was meh. Lousy scorer, shitty from 3, decent rebounder. Decent D? glad he's gone
 
Stevenson said:
Maybe because we want to, err, win?
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Not this year. This year we want to lose, and lose a lot. This give the Blazers a huge TPE to get a good player back for nothing. This gives the Blazers the opportunity to get a top 5 draft pick this year, which could give the Blazers an instant contributor, and gives the Blazers money in the offseason to sign players that actually fit the system, and not just scoring SGs who don't defend.

If the Blazers walk away from this deadline with Myles Turner or Jerami Grant (Bledsoe or TPE and NOP 1st), Josh Hart, NAW, and a top 5 pick this year, with the MLE to sign more depth in the offseason, and a re-signed Simons, you don't think that makes the Blazers instantly better with Dame back next year?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
My statement was in response to the many posts that Jody Allen is making moves in order to sell or move the team.

It just doesn't make sense, so she's destroying the value of the team so she can sell it for less money? That's what you're implying.
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But, for all you know, the trust orders her to break the hearts of Blazer fans so they won't object to the team being moved. It's nothing more than speculation on everyone's part.

The product on the court really has very little to do with the value of the franchise, anyway. Look at the Clippers, as an example. I could see a good argument being made for the most desirable scenario for a prospective buyer being one star (Lillard) for marketing purposes, and total roster flexibility to work with around him.
 
handiman said:
But, for all you know, the trust orders her to break the hearts of Blazer fans so they won't object to the team being moved.
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PA could have done this when he was alive. I very much doubt he put this as a condition in his trust. If he did why is Jody waiting until now to execute this evil plan? PA passed in 2018. If the trust is requiring her to trash the team I'm betting Lillard would have been traded in 2019.
 
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