Computer-assisted Refereeing

[Strenuus]

Dude, don't be rude. Baseball is all that gets me through the summer and and back into basketball season. Go Giants! And fuck the NFL.....

if i could like this every minute of every day, i would.

 

[noknobs]

Go referee some games guys... Get on the other side of the whistle before you criticize.

You really need to get over yourself.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I get the 3 second advantage disadvantaged argument but I absolutely despise traveling because it always gives advantage and is just plain lame. Its like the first thing I learned to do when playing ball in grade school. Jump stops and pivot foots

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I get the 3 second advantage disadvantaged argument but I absolutely despise traveling because it always gives advantage and is just plain lame. Its like the first thing I learned to do when playing ball in grade school. Jump stops and pivot foots

But didn't you know, star players earned those extra 1-2 steps!

 

[BlazerCaravan]

If 3 seconds was called by the letter of the law and not advantage/disadvantage you'd never get to see the game. There would be no game. It would be referees blowing their whistles every single play.

That means the rule is poorly designed. Having computers replace refs would suss a lot of that out. I bet you'd find plenty of balance at 5 or 7 real seconds.

 

[Voodoo]

Haven't you guys ever played a basketball video game? The computer controls the whole thing, and frankly it works pretty well.

 

[dviss1]

You really need to get over yourself.

We referees don't come push the broom out of your hands and tell you how sweep do we?

 

[dviss1]

Haven't you guys ever played a basketball video game? The computer controls the whole thing, and frankly it works pretty well.

The best video game ever created NBA 2k15 get the backcourt rule wrong every game. You are actually allowed to flop on that game... There's a fucking button to flop...

 

[dviss1]

OK, I've play all of 2 years of organized ball, you've reffed for many years. You understand the nuance of officiating, I don't. Check. I am not questioning your authority on the matter of reffing, or understanding defense.

Buttttttt, you don't need to know one whole hell of a lot to see that players are regularly in the fucking key for 4, 5, 6 seconds or more. I don't care whether they're leaving the key or not, they should under no circumstances be in the key for 6 seconds before a shot goes up, and it isn't called.

If you don't like 3.00 seconds, then fine, have the computer call 4.0 seconds, or even 4.5 seconds. But at some point, the nuances don't matter - the refs are just plain screwing up. That is what I, many on this board, and even casual bball fans want to end. A computer could do it.

I told you guys a long time ago that NBA Refs are fucking lazy and don't do their jobs well. That just means those old dogs need to get taken out back and shot. Let the younger more athletic referees take over. It's time for a new era. Dick Bavetta was almost 80 ..... WTF?

 

[oldmangrouch]

There is something to be said for play-ground rules and call your own fouls.

 

[Sinobas]

If 3 seconds was called by the letter of the law and not advantage/disadvantage you'd never get to see the game. There would be no game. It would be referees blowing their whistles every single play.

False.

 

[noknobs]

We referees don't come push the broom out of your hands and tell you how sweep do we?

Go referee some games guys... Get on the other side of the whistle before you criticize.

By that insane logic, I take it you've never criticized a politician. You've never criticized a coach, GM or professional athlete. You've never criticized a reporter. You've never criticized NBA officials, because that's quite different that referring high-schoolers. Or, and this one concerns you dviss1, you've never criticized anyone who's had sex with something you don't inflate. I know what you're thinking, and no your mom dressed in your old ref uniform doesn't count.

I can't believe what a swinging dick you think you are because you refereed a bunch of high-schoolers... Is that like the highlight of your life or something?

 

[dviss1]

By that insane logic, I take it you've never criticized a politician. You've never criticized a coach, GM or professional athlete. You've never criticized a reporter. You've never criticized NBA officials, because that's quite different that referring high-schoolers. Or, and this one concerns you dviss1, you've never criticized anyone who's had sex with something you don't inflate. I know what you're thinking, and no your mom dressed in your old ref uniform doesn't count.

I can't believe what a swinging dick you think you are because you refereed a bunch of high-schoolers... Is that like the highlight of your life or something?

Lots of those High Schoolers are in the NBA now. I also referee Division 3 college. In 5+ years I will be a Division 1 official (the highest level I'd take it). I referee 350-400+ Games every year. I have a perspective that a lot simply don't have. No one is "swinging" a dick...

 

[rasheedfan2005]

There is something to be said for play-ground rules and call your own fouls.

if i dont have someone hanging on to my back and someone hacking my arm i find it hard to make a layup tbh

 

[noknobs]

I think It's hilarious how this is one of the only jobs where people have no clue of what you do yet want to tell you how to do it.

Go referee some games guys... Get on the other side of the whistle before you criticize.

You're 'perspective' doesn't mean you have the only valid opinion when it comes to NBA officials or that you're the only who knows the rules. Soccer uses goal-line technology to assist officiating, tennis sure does, why can't the NBA do something similar? The point is to get the call right last I checked.

 

[dviss1]

You're 'perspective' doesn't mean you have the only valid opinion when it comes to NBA officials or that you're the only who knows the rules. Soccer uses goal-line technology to assist officiating, tennis sure does, why can't the NBA do something similar? The point is to get the call right last I checked.

For the past 10 years I've refereed 350+ basketball games a year. Not sure why you put quotes around perspective. Your view from the stands is just that.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

For the past 10 years I've refereed 350+ basketball games a year. Not sure why you put quotes around perspective. Your view from the stands is just that.

Makes me think of the old joke about a guy spending all game yelling at a referee about how terrible his calls are. So during a 4th quarter timeout, the ref walks up into the stands to sit next to the fan, telling him that he's going to stay there for the remainder of the game. The fan says, "What are you doing?! You can't referee the game from up here!" The ref responds, "Exactly. Now shut the hell up," and returns to the floor.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Makes me think of the old joke about a guy spending all game yelling at a referee about how terrible his calls are. So during a 4th quarter timeout, the ref walks up into the stands to sit next to the fan, telling him that he's going to stay there for the remainder of the game. The fan says, "What are you doing?! You can't referee the game from up here!" The ref responds, "Exactly. Now shut the hell up," and returns to the floor.

What a stupid fan, to be so easily tricked.

 

[dviss1]

Makes me think of the old joke about a guy spending all game yelling at a referee about how terrible his calls are. So during a 4th quarter timeout, the ref walks up into the stands to sit next to the fan, telling him that he's going to stay there for the remainder of the game. The fan says, "What are you doing?! You can't referee the game from up here!" The ref responds, "Exactly. Now shut the hell up," and returns to the floor.

And YES I've had that experience! Hilarious! Though I don't tell fans to shut the hell up.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If only we had a valid opinion like the ymca ref.

Thankfully I have coached a gazillion years, so my opinion will be almost as valid as i am on the floor.

Also, thankfully, refs opinion on strategy is not valid cause he's just a ref.

Its too bad we cant go somewhere as fans and talk about the team we love without being shunned because we are just mere fans. Or being told to learn the game, then, and only then, post.

If only there were such a place. A forum of sorts, maybe? That would be awesome.

 

[PDXFonz]

Makes me think of the old joke about a guy spending all game yelling at a referee about how terrible his calls are. So during a 4th quarter timeout, the ref walks up into the stands to sit next to the fan, telling him that he's going to stay there for the remainder of the game. The fan says, "What are you doing?! You can't referee the game from up here!" The ref responds, "Exactly. Now shut the hell up," and returns to the floor.

And YES I've had that experience! Hilarious! Though I don't tell fans to shut the hell up.

I volunteered at the Blazers summer basketball thing a few years ago when it was called the street jam. I was in charge of keeping score, fouls, time, etc... For the high school aged games. The referee at my court was a very kind older gentleman who said he did a lot of refereeing of middle school and elementary school games(I think it was something like 20+ years). Admittedly there were a few times where I questioned the accuracy of his calls, but he wasn't that bad. You wouldn't know it if you were blindfolded though, as one of the parents was heckling him and critiquing literally every single one of his calls. He kept his cool and ignored the parent, and when the game was over and he came to pick up the score card he mentioned it to me. I don't remember exactly what he said, but it was something along the lines of - can you believe some people think it's okay to act like that?

I told him not to worry about it, and that I thought he called a good game. But I did acknowledge that I noticed the parent hounding him as well, and agreed that this particular parent was being ludicrous.