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Fez Hammersticks said:
How much blame should his mother get for having all those weapons unlocked from her unstable son?

She was in fact a doomsday prepper.
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The act of leaving the weapons unlocked and out of a gun safe is flagrantly irresponsible in general; I see a civil suit in the future.
 
someone should start flooding their mail boxes with adult magazines and other "offensive" material.
 
What I don't understand is why did this maniac decide to go to school and kill those kids; when he already killed his mom? I could understand a little better if his mom was at school and he went there to kill her and in the panic; decided to murder everyone else.
 
magnifier661 said:
What I don't understand is why did this maniac decide to go to school and kill those kids; when he already killed his mom? I could understand a little better if his mom was at school and he went there to kill her and in the panic; decided to murder everyone else.
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Maybe he had some revenge fantasies revolving around kids the age he was when he was getting teased/taunted. All speculation, of course, but I imagine he'd focus on that, and maybe project a general hatred of kids that age.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Maybe he had some revenge fantasies revolving around kids the age he was when he was getting teased/taunted. All speculation, of course, but I imagine he'd focus on that, and maybe project a general hatred of kids that age.
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If true; that's fucked up because he was the one that had the end all bullying by killing the victims and the bullies. Some people just don't look outside the box.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Westboro is planning to protest @ the site.

Anonymous heard and have posted each members personal info:

LINK

We Are Anonymous.
We Are Legion.
We Do Not Forgive.
We Do Not Forget.
#WestboroBaptistChurch
EXPECT US
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what the hell is wrong with those people? church, not the anonymous. I think it's awesome they did that.
 
magnifier661 said:
If true; that's fucked up because he was the one that had the end all bullying by killing the victims and the bullies. Some people just don't look outside the box.
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It's that they can't come to grips with the teasing, project all that hatred on every six-year-old, and lash out. Not having a good mechanism for self-reflection just puts that hatred on a positive feedback loop where it gets louder and louder.

Of course, we'll never know... and I'm not pretending to know much beyond thinking about what was in my mind at that age and amping it up x10,000... or a million.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Maybe he had some revenge fantasies revolving around kids the age he was when he was getting teased/taunted. All speculation, of course, but I imagine he'd focus on that, and maybe project a general hatred of kids that age.
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i was thinking maybe he thought his mom made him crazy and wanted to "save" the kids from the same fate

what an asshole
 
julius said:
Um..what understanding?
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The understanding that you hadn't responded to a single point I had made in that post..and instead, that your overt reason for responding was to address a format issue (that, covertly, was likely known to be unnecessary i.e., I had, just prior to the post quoted, already used the quoting feature mentioned).
 
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julius said:
you're not aware of lexicons or old sayings, right? Or are you going to start arguing semantics and take things literally for their meanings
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Sure I'm aware of sayings and uses and other useful forms of rhetoric, but I'm not about to let you have it both ways: either you knew what I was up to or you didn't. I'm all about doing justice to your meaning, hence my response pointing out the problem.

Now which is it? Am I allowed to use a certain amount of ironic distance so others can apprehend the irony on their own? Or do I have to dumb everything down to your level?

This would be good to put in the terms of service by the way. Don't be pulling no Oregonlive crap, boy. I will take you over my knee.
 
julius said:
Interesting that you seemingly know what my skills are, and what my education and life experiences are to date.
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Not as interesting as the fact that you apparently think that follows from what I said.

I don't know anything of the kind about you -- I only know a few of your habits of mind based on a few brief text encounters.

I said "if." It's a conditional ... upon me having whatever skills you possess. I was expressing a relationship I believe exists between what you do and what your skills are. I'm also indicating a similar relationship with regard to your lived experience and education bearing on how and what you think. That has nothing to do with me knowing the various contents of your life.
 
wait, we've had a few text exchanges?

holy shit...Bernadette, is that you!?
 
Its weird to me that the shooters aunt said that the mom was very paranoid about the economy which is why she loaded up on guns. I wonder if she fed her son with the wacky ideas. Seriously, worried about the economy so you load up with assault rifles? Sounds like he didn't grow up in very sane living conditions.
 
MickZagger said:
Its weird to me that the shooters aunt said that the mom was very paranoid about the economy which is why she loaded up on guns. I wonder if she fed her son with the wacky ideas. Seriously, worried about the economy so you load up with assault rifles? Sounds like he didn't grow up in very sane living conditions.
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Often times mental illness is hereditary.
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
Often times mental illness is hereditary.
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certain ones, yes. What is difficult, at times, is that some people who are struggling with or have a mental illness, don't know it. to them, that is what is normal.

That is not always the case of course, a few people I have worked with knew the demons they saw weren't real when they were talking to me or other people, but that didn't stop them from seeing them or believing them.

This one person, in particular, did something to counter the visions. One thing he did was isolate himself from people (for whatever reason, that worked for him), and say a little saying to himself. Although I'm not comfortable calling his issues an illness, as his came about from a traumatic brain he suffered in his youth. Not entirely certain what to call it, mental disability sounds closer.

if he were to have children, I'm not sure it would be a genetic trait or characteristic that could be passed on to his children. His disability wasn't in his DNA.
 
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magnifier661 said:
What I don't understand is why did this maniac decide to go to school and kill those kids; when he already killed his mom? I could understand a little better if his mom was at school and he went there to kill her and in the panic; decided to murder everyone else.
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Asperger's syndrome.
 
MickZagger said:
Its weird to me that the shooters aunt said that the mom was very paranoid about the economy which is why she loaded up on guns. I wonder if she fed her son with the wacky ideas. Seriously, worried about the economy so you load up with assault rifles? Sounds like he didn't grow up in very sane living conditions.
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She sounds like one of the overprotective kind of bat shit crazy type of moms. many of moms whos kids are autistic go crazy looking stuff online. See: Jenny McCarthy
 
Fool me once...shame on me....

AutismLink Reacts to Diagnosis of Autism in Virginia Tech Shooter

PITTSBURGH, April 19 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- AutismLink and Autism
Center of Pittsburgh Director Cindy Waeltermann today issued a statement
regarding the recent revelation that Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung-Hui
was diagnosed with autism as a child.
"While the entire autism community in Pittsburgh and across the nation
are devastated by the recent events at Virginia Tech, we would like to
caution the public not to stigmatize children or individuals with autism.
Cho likely did not receive the help and support that he needed early on --
that is why early intervention is so important, and that is why places like
the Autism Center of Pittsburgh exist. The act of one individual should not
reflect upon the entire autistic population.
It is unfair to blame Cho's actions on autism when he was clearly
psychologically impaired and likely had another disorder in addition to his
autism. His psychological evaluations apparently revealed a dark history
that concluded that he was an imminent danger to himself and others and was
also depressed.
This is a wake up call that stresses the importance of early
intervention, research, and appropriate treatment strategies. Many strides
have been made in autism spectrum disorders and research has consistently
shown that when children receive the help that they need early on they are
more likely to become more adept at social and communication skills.
Autism affects 1 in 150 children and is now the most commonly diagnosed
developmental disability in the world. It is time to recognize autism for
the epidemic it is."
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MickZagger said:
Its weird to me that the shooters aunt said that the mom was very paranoid about the economy which is why she loaded up on guns. I wonder if she fed her son with the wacky ideas. Seriously, worried about the economy so you load up with assault rifles? Sounds like he didn't grow up in very sane living conditions.
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I brought this up in another thread. "Let's take someone who is emotionally/mentally unstable and tell them the world is about to end. I'm sure they won't react badly!"
 
...beyond Autism (and other mental illness), let's take a look at BIG Pharma! They are a much larger common denominator in 67 of these types of shootings.

List of 66 School shooting incidents involving SSRIs
Link --> http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=school

Make that 67

Connecticut Shooter Adam Lanza: 'Obviously Not Well'
Link --> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza/story?id=17975673

Mass Murders And The SSRIs Connection:
[video=youtube;OyPuE314SDQ]
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A few miscellaneous points:

The vast majority of people with mental disabilites are not violent. It is obvious but needs repeating to avoid further stigmatizing and making it even less likely they will seek help.

Almost everyone who was bullied has revenge fantasies! 99.999% keep it at fantasy.

It bugs me how we hear every time the shooter was "intelligent but a loner". That describes nearly every computer nerd and most of them don't kill children. It seems to me a lazy way out. Probably 99.999% of intelligent loners don't kill people either.

Something almost never said. These mass killers are all men. Women can be antisocial, some kill their own children, but don't go off shooting in public places. This is not some man hating rant. It is fact. And maybe among other things we should discuss is why anti social tendencies result in such violence among men?

It was reported in yesterday's SF Chronicle sports section that Kevin McHale, who took a month's leave for his daughter's illness and death, had been calm on his return. Until he heard about this shooting, when he completely broke down.

I don't have a graceful close to this post.
 
The vast majority of gun owners aren't violent either.
 
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