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magnifier661 said:
How doesn't it make sense. Trump's unfavorables were much higher than they were today in Nov. 2016 yet he won the Presidency.

Enthusiasm is a marker for supporters to go out of their way to volunteer, donate, get friends out to vote and spread the word. I think the polling is the feeling of not wanting Trump in office, but not excited enough to do the work to get him out.
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actually his favorability rating has hardly moved since he took office. Still in the mid to low 40%. That's not enough to get him elected and he did lose the popular vote last time so his popularity wasn't very good over all.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

also seems trump is lagging behind many of the world leaders and their respective approval ratings.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...ndling-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-04-14
 
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27 health care first responders have died now from the virus and thousands have gone home infected....they suspect the numbers to be way higher than we thought....30 grocery clerks died as well
 
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Furious Trump hints at withholding coronavirus aid from 'mutinous' governors after NY's Cuomo calls him schizophrenic for risking constitutional crisis by behaving like a 'king' and claiming total power to reopen country
  • Trump called any governor who resisted his 'total authority' a mutineer
  • President threatened to withhold coronavirus aid
  • 'A good old fashioned mutiny every now and then is an exciting and invigorating thing to watch, especially when the mutineers need so much from the Captain'
  • Trump tweet came after Andrew Cuomo called him 'schizophrenic' for claiming he has 'total authority' over the states to reopen the United States
  • 'It makes no sense. It is schizophrenic,' Cuomo told CNN
  • But he later said he wouldn't fight with Trump
  • 'The president will have no fight with me. I will not engage,' Cuomo said
  • New York governor said he would refuse an order from Trump to reopen his state and said he would take the matter to the courts to decide
  • 'We would have a constitutional challenge between the state and the federal government and that would go into the courts,' Cuomo said
  • He warned Trump could create a 'constitutional crisis'
  • 'The only way this situation gets worse is if the president creates a constitutional crisis,' Cuomo said on MSNBC's 'Morning Joe'
  • In a heated press conference inside the White House on Monday evening, Trump asserted that his office holds 'absolute power' over the states
  • 'The president of the United States calls the shots,' Trump said
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hrenic-claiming-total-authority-open-U-S.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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Furious Trump hints at withholding coronavirus aid from 'mutinous' governors after NY's Cuomo calls him schizophrenic for risking constitutional crisis by behaving like a 'king' and claiming total power to reopen country
  • Trump called any governor who resisted his 'total authority' a mutineer
  • President threatened to withhold coronavirus aid
  • 'A good old fashioned mutiny every now and then is an exciting and invigorating thing to watch, especially when the mutineers need so much from the Captain'
  • Trump tweet came after Andrew Cuomo called him 'schizophrenic' for claiming he has 'total authority' over the states to reopen the United States
  • 'It makes no sense. It is schizophrenic,' Cuomo told CNN
  • But he later said he wouldn't fight with Trump
  • 'The president will have no fight with me. I will not engage,' Cuomo said
  • New York governor said he would refuse an order from Trump to reopen his state and said he would take the matter to the courts to decide
  • 'We would have a constitutional challenge between the state and the federal government and that would go into the courts,' Cuomo said
  • He warned Trump could create a 'constitutional crisis'
  • 'The only way this situation gets worse is if the president creates a constitutional crisis,' Cuomo said on MSNBC's 'Morning Joe'
  • In a heated press conference inside the White House on Monday evening, Trump asserted that his office holds 'absolute power' over the states
  • 'The president of the United States calls the shots,' Trump said
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...hrenic-claiming-total-authority-open-U-S.html
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This is more like the Caine Mutiny.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Tried to find it actually published on wapo/nbc websites,...can't find it and again, the dates seems odd. Also, not sure about the "enthusiasm" stat...how can Trump currently be so far ahead in that stat when most national polls show Biden leading Trump by a good bit ?
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A large percentage of Democrats supported someone other than Biden within the last couple of months. It takes time to get over the fact that your guy/gal didn't win and get enthusiastic about someone you didn't think was the best choice out of the 28 candidates.

That's part of it. Another part is that Trump's supporters tend to be fanatics. There are relatively few people who don't have a strong opinion about him one way or the other. Those that like him a lot are going to be enthusiastic about voting for him.

It doesn't matter as long as Biden voters vote for him, even if it is unenthusiastically. However, it does provide an opening for Trump, in that if he can convince the unexcited Biden voters to not vote, then he can win. And that is certainly the game plan, voter suppression is the number one tool in their toolbox. So we'll see. Didn't work too well in Wisconsin last week.

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I personally shave everyday so I have less surface to scrub germs away....I don't get the beard trend ...I'm thinking of shaving the head for the same reason...after reading how these germs attach to surfaces the last thing I need is more landing zones...good thing is I can justify taking really long hot showers now as protection from the virus and not worry about wasting water
 
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magnifier661 said:
So he won because they hated Hillary more?
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Not all of them, but certainly enough to give Trump the nod. And some were probably so disgusted with the choices they probably didn't even to bother to vote.

It's my opinion that we won't see that sort of indifference this November.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Not all of them, but certainly enough to give Trump the nod. And some were probably so disgusted with the choices they probably didn't even to bother to vote.

It's my opinion that we won't see that sort of indifference this November.
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Yeah that indifference was costly. People figured she'd win anyway so they didn't vote. She messed up not campaigning in the midwest. People saw what last time caused, they will vote this time around. There was a moral high ground to be had then, that was thought to be affordable.

Also, we will see a support Hillary didn't have. Pretty much every democratic politician will be campaigning for Biden.
 
barfo said:
A large percentage of Democrats supported someone other than Biden within the last couple of months. It takes time to get over the fact that your guy/gal didn't win and get enthusiastic about someone you didn't think was the best choice out of the 28 candidates.

barfo
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That's exactly why I questioned the dates in his supposed "enthusiasm" stats...the dates made no sense.
 
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