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SlyPokerDog said:
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REVEALED: More than 80 per cent of a Republican tax provision hidden in the coronavirus relief act will go directly to millionaires and billionaires - as it is branded a 'rotten, un-American giveaway'
  • Nearly 82 percent of a Republican tax provision hidden away in the coronavirus relief fund will go to the nation's millionaires and billionaires
  • Analysis by the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) discovered the tax suspension overwhelmingly benefits high earners
  • JCT determined that only less than three percent of the benefits will go to Americans earning less than $100,000 per year
  • Comparatively, 82 percent of the benefits of the provision will be received by those who earn $1 million or more annually
  • Suspending the limitation is set to cost taxpayers $90 billion this year alone
  • The investigation was prompted after reports surfaced that Trump, Jared Kushner, and others in his inner circle could also be key beneficiaries
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...irus-relief-act-Republicans-millionaires.html
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Amazing! The Democrats sure got suckered.

If only they knew how to read, they might have known before they voted for it.


Of course someone just said the Dems got stampeded into voting for it.

L O FUCKING L.
 
Strenuus said:
Yet the republicans bitched that the other side was trying to weasel stuff into the bill.

How you support these people is beyond me. You got fooled if you think they care about the american people. Start thinking for yourself.

(This is to those it pertains, not to the quoted)
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Look in the mirror. Most of the idiots here (this is to those it pertains, not to the quoted) seemed to be happy with this bill that gives away unknown trillions of dollars to the rich just as long as Trump couldn't get any.

The best thing I can think of to describe this team sport bullshit is this.

Imagine the Blazers players and the Lakers players made some deal to fix a game and let the Lakers win.

You guys want to blame the Lakers. I blame both.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Amazing! The Democrats sure got suckered.

If only they knew how to read, they might have known before they voted for it.


Of course someone just said the Dems got stampeded into voting for it.

L O FUCKING L.
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...are you OK with this tax provision ear marked for the super rich?

...as far as the Dems getting suckered because they didn't read the entirety of the bill, I seem to remember many here as well as in both houses condemning the Dems for dragging their feet on approval.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
...are you OK with this tax provision ear marked for the super rich?
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No. I'm not ok with most any of it.

The entire thing needed to be done in pieces.

Money to unemployed Americans who lost jobs directly? Different bill.

We are fucking screwed. Dems can pretend they got snookered but they have been half of this game of passing 8000 page bills they have never read for decades.
 
yankeesince59 said:
I don't see anything insane about it and I don't see anything liberal about that article...the woman was simply telling her story about her experience.
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Yeah, that's the insanity.

I was sicker than my husband.
I took a drug because I had a fever.
My fever went away.
I didn't feel good right after.
I'm not dead.


The headline in the liberal rag is that she took it and didn't like what it did to her.

That's the way they want to spin it.

Fox should write an article with this headline....

Idiot actress saved by Trump drug complains about side effects.


Neither of which would be acceptable by the media when I was a kid.
 
RR7 said:
Because even if there is video proof of him saying something, and he denies it, the majority of his followers JUST. DONT. GIVE A. SHIT. He allows them to be the shitty people they are, and that makes them feel good. Like some racist hillbilly has anything in common with a billionaire from NY. But they can believe he's one of them, so it works.
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You sound just as out of touch as the people you point a finger at. Lol. I love hearing city dwellers theories about all the racist hillbillies hiding out in the scary sticks outside the cities. Ridiculous.
I’ve lived in both. Cities are WAY more fucked up and racist.
 
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barfo said:
But the WHO adjusted their guidance in late January. Trump continued to say it wasn't a problem into March.

Is he a just slow learner? Or is it something worse?

I assume that, to be consistent, Trump will also call for defunding the Trump administration, since it made all the same mistakes as WHO.

barfo
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Let’s see... WHO urged people to keep travel open January 31st. The Trump Administration shut down travel to and from China.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-who-idUSKBN1ZU1C2

WHO didn’t even call this a pandemic until March 11.
https://time.com/5791661/who-coronavirus-pandemic-declaration/

this is what the Trump Administration was doing weeks before that.


February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.

February 29: The Trump Administration:

  • Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
  • Barred all travel to Iran.
  • Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.
March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth-quarter salary to fight the coronavirus.

March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus
 
yankeesince59 said:
Trump's supposed convo with Sondland was AFTER Trump's stance on Ukraine had already become well known. And no other witnesses corroborated that Trump said "no quid pro quo...while other witnesses disputed it. Even Trump's supposed notes looked fabricated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5545c2-0d49-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/20/politics/gordon-sondland-hearing-takeaways/index.html

...and which poll are you referring to, and on what date??
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In February. The Gallup polling gave the GOP better approval over the Dems that they held for years. Nancy Pelosi rose to a 55% disapproval as well.

It was a complete disaster for the Dems, who had very good approvals before they started the impeachment hearings.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...ongressional-republicans-rises-democrats-slip
 
yankeesince59 said:
None of that absolves Trump from being ultimately accountable.
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Never said the Administration wasn’t at fault in some way. As I’ve said before, many world leaders were. Most of Europe didn’t even start Mitigation Efforts until after the US started theirs.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...are you OK with this tax provision ear marked for the super rich?

...as far as the Dems getting suckered because they didn't read the entirety of the bill, I seem to remember many here as well as in both houses condemning the Dems for dragging their feet on approval.
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Exact opposite. And Ill dig up quotes if I have to. I remember specifically commenting that Id rather have the bill checked out in full and libs and socialists here screaming that people need money now, just send it out. Whats the delay????


Sorry, you are re visioning history.

Not going at you, but not going to read people saying the what happened was the complete opposite of what actually happened. There is a limit to my silence....
 
Good news is that even though the malaria drug Trump ordered 59 million doses of doesn't work against covid19....we'll be prepared for the oncoming malaria pandemic!
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
No. I'm not ok with most any of it.

The entire thing needed to be done in pieces.

Money to unemployed Americans who lost jobs directly? Different bill.

We are fucking screwed. Dems can pretend they got snookered but they have been half of this game of passing 8000 page bills they have never read for decades.
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Agreed...I just don't get the narrative of some that the Dems were stone walling and muddying up the water just to piss the GOP and Trump off.
 
Just read where more than 1/2 of the Corona Virus deaths in Oregon are from assisted living centers.
 
magnifier661 said:
In February. The Gallup polling gave the GOP better approval over the Dems that they held for years. Nancy Pelosi rose to a 55% disapproval as well.

It was a complete disaster for the Dems, who had very good approvals before they started the impeachment hearings.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...ongressional-republicans-rises-democrats-slip
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False, that's not what you said, not at all...you told @SLY that you enjoyed the fact that "TRUMP got a bump in the polls"... you said nothing about the "GOP". But now you're citing a link and pointing to only house and senate approval ratings.
 
magnifier661 said:
Never said the Administration wasn’t at fault in some way. As I’ve said before, many world leaders were. Most of Europe didn’t even start Mitigation Efforts until after the US started theirs.
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An over whelming percentage of ALL countries in the world have a LOWER death per million than the US...but as I've said multiple times, I don't give 2 shits about what other world leaders did and/or did not do...we are supposed to be better than the rest of the world...we're not.
 
yankeesince59 said:
False, that's not what you said, not at all...you told @SLY that you enjoyed the fact that "TRUMP got a bump in the polls"... you said nothing about the "GOP". But now you're citing a link and pointing to only house and senate approval ratings.
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Oh for sure! Let’s get to that. Sorry

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#polls

look at the dates 2/3-2/19 on the polling data. Yes, he definitely got a bump in the polls.
 
yankeesince59 said:
An over whelming percentage of ALL countries in the world have a LOWER death per million than the US...but as I've said multiple times, I don't give 2 shits about what other world leaders did and/or did not do...we are supposed to be better than the rest of the world...we're not.
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False... 79 deaths per million. Much better than most of the European countries

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
 
magnifier661 said:
Let’s see... WHO urged people to keep travel open January 31st. The Trump Administration shut down travel to and from China.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-who-idUSKBN1ZU1C2

WHO didn’t even call this a pandemic until March 11.
https://time.com/5791661/who-coronavirus-pandemic-declaration/

this is what the Trump Administration was doing weeks before that.


February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.

February 29: The Trump Administration:

  • Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
  • Barred all travel to Iran.
  • Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.
March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth-quarter salary to fight the coronavirus.

March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus
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Trump didn't initially SHUT down flights from China. He restricted entry but thousands were allowed to come back into the states and all it takes is one to start an epidemic that then turns into a pandemic. Why do you puppet many of his lies?
 
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