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I heard corona virus victims just had headaches and a couple of other things, but I would say and I can report that it’s not very serious.

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Just watched a report snuck out of Wuhan. I believe it to be creditable, but can not confirm the info I am posting.

The individual reports conditions are much worse than being reported by China gov.

Since all transportation in many areas has be halted. Many sick people have no way to get to a hospital. The emergency call # is down/overloaded. So no ambulance service for most sick people.

People that make it to a hospital on their own, wait hours in a long line. Then when they finally do talk to medical staff, supplies to test for the virus have run out. The sick are sent home with only cold meds.

He believes the # of infected with the virus is much higher than reported.

A side note about the masks everyone now wears. If a person has the virus, wearing a mask will help some to stop spreading the virus. But if the virus is in the air, the masks will not stop the virus from entering new victims. Some air does get in due to a poor fit on the sides. Plus there are questions if the masks filters out all of the virus? A better mask may be required to be protected.
 
oldfisherman said:
Just watched a report snuck out of Wuhan. I believe it to be creditable, but can not confirm the info I am posting.

The individual reports conditions are much worse than being reported by China gov.

Since all transportation in many areas has be halted. Many sick people have no way to get to a hospital. The emergency call # is down/overloaded. So no ambulance service for most sick people.

People that make it to a hospital on their own, wait hours in a long line. Then when they finally do talk to medical staff, supplies to test for the virus have run out. The sick are sent home with only cold meds.

He believes the # of infected with the virus is much higher than reported.

A side note about the masks everyone now wears. If a person has the virus, wearing a mask will help some to stop spreading the virus. But if the virus is in the air, the masks will not stop the virus from entering new victims. Some air does get in due to a poor fit on the sides. Plus there are questions if the masks filters out all of the virus? A better mask may be required to be protected.
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Most of the new infections come from tiny droplets of body fluids from such actions as coughing. A mask helps dramatically.

All VA hospitals have masks available in open dispensers throughout the hospital and people who cough are strongly encouraged to grab a mask if they cough no matter the reason for the cough. A mask puts people at ease concerning whatever infectious diseases people have will get an attenuated rate of spreading to people nearby.
 
Lanny said:
Most of the new infections come from tiny droplets of body fluids from such actions as coughing. A mask helps dramatically.

All VA hospitals have masks available in open dispensers throughout the hospital and people who cough are strongly encouraged to grab a mask if they cough no matter the reason for the cough. A mask puts people at ease concerning whatever infectious diseases people have will get an attenuated rate of spreading to people nearby.
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Agreed. Wearing a mask of most any kind makes a difference. Also, it is just as important if not more so, to wash your hands more often or use a hand sanitizer more often. And avoiding being around other people also makes a big difference.


"Dr. Mark Loeb, an infectious disease specialist at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, said a study during an outbreak of the SARS coronavirus found that any type of protection — whether a mask or a respirator — reduced the risk of infections in health care workers by about 85 percent.

“The most important message was that the risk was lower if they consistently used any mask,” he said.
 
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US count now at 5.
S. CA. 2 with virus
1 each in Arizona, Chicago, & WA.
All 5 traveled to Wuhan.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Deadly coronavirus outbreak DID start at the wild animal meat market in Wuhan where snakes, rats, beavers, foxes, wolf cubs and peacocks are caged and slaughtered to order, tests confirm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...-start-animal-market-Wuhan-tests-confirm.html
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It's no wonder...I saw a report/video of that market...zero sanitation. Blood, guts, animal parts lying around all over the place. At most, at the end of each day, they may/may not hose down the street.
 
The kung flu is scary. I really hope it's more lack of care than sorry you're fucked that is causing deaths.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Deadly coronavirus outbreak DID start at the wild animal meat market in Wuhan where snakes, rats, beavers, foxes, wolf cubs and peacocks are caged and slaughtered to order, tests confirm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...-start-animal-market-Wuhan-tests-confirm.html
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Untill they figure out the source of this virus. I'm giving up eating rattlesnake soup and beavertail tacos. But....

Since the virus enters new victims through the lungs, and not what people are eating. I believe they are looking at the wrong end for the largest fuel source transmitting the virus. I'm guessing eating kale is spreading the virus.
 
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Untill they figure out the source of this virus. I'm giving up eating rattlesnake soup and beavertail tacos.
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Not eating snake, beaver, tail, or tacos? Sounds like that could seriously curtail amorous activity
 
The Zombie Apocalypse is beginning...remember rule #2

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It's a pretty serious situation. My in-laws are in a more remote part of China with less than 10 cases of Coronavirus so far. My wife and I discussed having her parents come stay with us, but her parents don't even want to travel domestically in China to get to the States.

I have a former colleague whose wife and 2 kids are trapped in Wuhan currently and no travel allowed. He has been advocating to get his family on the chartered flight from the US State Department, but no luck so far (pretty sure it took off today already). https://www.fox21news.com/top-stori...y56ZUOgNMf_7O73hA5gf2zw58GRX0Qfwgg3ONhcObfWyE

If anyone has any pull/influence or just wants to share their story, please do.
 
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Sounds like a confirmed human to human to human case of the virus in Germany.

A German has the virus that has never been to China. But was in contact with a person from Shanghai, who has relatives in Wuhan.

What scares me is how fast this virus is spreading compared to the sars virus.
 
oldfisherman said:
Sounds like a confirmed human to human to human case of the virus in Germany.

A German has the virus that has never been to China. But was in contact with a person from Shanghai, who has relatives in Wuhan.

What scares me is how fast this virus is spreading compared to the sars virus.
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I'm listening to a teleconference right now with a former Deputy Director of the CDC and he is talking about this now.
 
oldfisherman said:
Sounds like a confirmed human to human to human case of the virus in Germany.

A German has the virus that has never been to China. But was in contact with a person from Shanghai, who has relatives in Wuhan.

What scares me is how fast this virus is spreading compared to the sars virus.
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The next black plague?
 
Latest report from China. 6,000 with virus, 132 deaths.

Unconfirmed report of 14 hospital workers with the virus. To be fair, it is unclear if they became infected before protective masks and other gear were being used.
 
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