OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (1 Viewer)

[Orion Bailey]

shit...it just occurred to me that right now we'd be in the 2nd week of the NBA playoffs. Would the Blazers be in it?

Of course. After having knocked off the weak ass fakers in LA, we would be leading 2-0 over Utah right now. This was our year.

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/katu.c...eaths-in-oregon-expected-health-officials-say

More coronavirus deaths in Oregon expected, health officials say

 

[Hoopguru]

I had an ex wife who drove me to drink. Never did thank her for that.

Did she accuse you of anything?

 

[yankeesince59]

Yes. Intimidating a tyrannical government.

Not surprised that you would spin it that way.

 

[magnifier661]

Not surprised that you would spin it that way.

You can call it what you want. I think a group of people that have been marginalized and attacked by police or government have a second amendment right to protect themselves during protest. Is it intimidating? Yeah. Having armed protest resulted in a shoot out recently? No.

 

[magnifier661]

Disclaimer: I think the Armed Trump supporters storming the Capital in protest was stupid as shit. There was no evidence of threat by the police.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Disclaimer: I think the Armed Trump supporters storming the Capital in protest was stupid as shit. There was no evidence of threat by the police.

And that's the difference I see.

 

[yankeesince59]

You can call it what you want. I think a group of people that have been marginalized and attacked by police or government have a second amendment right to protect themselves during protest. Is it intimidating? Yeah. Having armed protest resulted in a shoot out recently? No.

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lol...evidently you don't even realize your picture has nothing to do with the corona virus

 

[Hoopguru]

I listen to various doctors and scientist and hear different takes on much about the virus? Im not sure who to believe so I look at various stats and such but leave the scientific medical stuff to the professionals?
The attached article coincides with other statements Ive heard from doctors and Im not sure why they would be lying about such a deal?
I do understand when there are monetary incentives organizations will try and maximize their income.

Whats your take on this article? And I don't want to hear oh thats a left or right wing article.

https://fee.org/articles/physicians...st-covid-19-on-death-certificates-here-s-why/

Thanks for your honest opinion.

 

[magnifier661]

lol...evidently you don't even realize your picture has nothing to do with the corona virus

It has everything to do with your response to me.

 

[magnifier661]

 

[yankeesince59]

It has everything to do with your response to me.

...the picture had nothing to do with what we were discussing which was about "re-openers" marching with weapons...you posted an irrelevant and old black panthers picture.

...but it's OK, you're still my hero.

 

[magnifier661]

...the picture had nothing to do with what we were discussing which was about "re-openers" marching with weapons...you posted an irrelevant and old black panthers picture.

...but it's OK, you're still my hero.

Thanks. I’m glad I’m your hero! I sell my underoos for $29.95

 

[wizenheimer]

I listen to various doctors and scientist and hear different takes on much about the virus? Im not sure who to believe so I look at various stats and such but leave the scientific medical stuff to the professionals?
The attached article coincides with other statements Ive heard from doctors and Im not sure why they would be lying about such a deal?
I do understand when there are monetary incentives organizations will try and maximize their income.

Whats your take on this article? And I don't want to hear oh thats a left or right wing article.

https://fee.org/articles/physicians...st-covid-19-on-death-certificates-here-s-why/

Thanks for your honest opinion.

you might not want to hear about bias, but that foundation is definitely a right-wing organization with a heavy libertarian slant.

as for the two doctors featured in the article....you should really do a little google investigation of them. I just did and it's more than enough to create a lot of skepticism about what they say and the agenda behind their words. They have been substantially discredited in their Covid statements about infection rates and the conclusions they drew from them.

yeah, that's some kill the messenger stuff you probably don't like, but at a time when there's a giant push to open the economy back up, there's also a lot of propaganda being pumped out about data; and in this case, its part of a fog that says some people in health care are so corrupt they are lying about the data. That's a pretty serious charge, and it needs to be vetted by somebody other than those two doctors and that right-wing think tank

that said, I'm not naive enough to ignore the possible motivation of re-imbursement differentials that hospital administrators might be looking at. At the same time, maybe that's a way to inject more money into strapped and over-burdened hospitals since the R's in congress still seemed hellbent to give more to corporations and less to health care. Maybe that's a simple way to offset the exorbitant cost of PPE that hospitals are absorbing right now, in part, because the Feds are not only not helping, but stealing supplies from hospitals and states and being a player in driving up the costs

that there could be inaccurate counts of cases and deaths is entirely possible. There's a lot of chaos right now. But again, to say any possible inaccuracies are due to deliberate and corrupt intent needs proof. My bet would be if the mortality count is inaccurate, it's off on the low side. You might ask yourself why it is that Florida has silenced all the local medical examiners and coroners after their numbers came in much higher than the 'official' state numbers. Why is it that trump is preventing Fauci & Birx and other members of the task force from testifying in the House. I've also read that several states have been extremely slow to tabulate nursing home cases and deaths to this point in time

 

[Hoopguru]

you might not want to hear about bias, but that foundation is definitely a right-wing organization with a heavy libertarian slant.

as for the two doctors featured in the article....you should really do a little google investigation of them. I just did and it's more than enough to create a lot of skepticism about what they say and the agenda behind their words. They have been substantially discredited in their Covid statements about infection rates and the conclusions they drew from them.

yeah, that's some kill the messenger stuff you probably don't like, but at a time when there's a giant push to open the economy back up, there's also a lot of propaganda being pumped out about data; and in this case, its part of a fog that says some people in health care are so corrupt they are lying about the data. That's a pretty serious charge, and it needs to be vetted by somebody other than those two doctors and that right-wing think tank

that said, I'm not naive enough to ignore the possible motivation of re-imbursement differentials that hospital administrators might be looking at. At the same time, maybe that's a way to inject more money into strapped and over-burdened hospitals since the R's in congress still seemed hellbent to give more to corporations and less to health care. Maybe that's a simple way to offset the exorbitant cost of PPE that hospitals are absorbing right now, in part, because the Feds are not only not helping, but stealing supplies from hospitals and states and being a player in driving up the costs

that there could be inaccurate counts of cases and deaths is entirely possible. There's a lot of chaos right now. But again, to say any possible inaccuracies are due to deliberate and corrupt intent needs proof. My bet would be if the mortality count is inaccurate, it's off on the low side. You might ask yourself why it is that Florida has silenced all the local medical examiners and coroners after their numbers came in much higher than the 'official' state numbers. Why is it that trump is preventing Fauci & Birx and other members of the task force from testifying in the House. I've also read that several states have been extremely slow to tabulate nursing home cases and deaths to this point in time

Thanks for your thoughts. The reimbursement variances seemed huge.

 

[yankeesince59]

Thanks. I’m glad I’m your hero! I sell my underoos for $29.95

Lemme guess, monogrammed "MAGA"?

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[magnifier661]

Lemme guess, monogrammed "MAGA"?

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...zed-nyc-mysterious-syndrome/story?id=70506264

Coronavirus updates: 15 children hospitalized in NYC with mysterious syndrome possibly linked to COVID-19

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...0/05/05/coronavirus-update-us/?outputType=amp

Live updates: As U.S. reopens, Fauci asks: ‘How much suffering are you willing to accept?’

 

[CupWizier]

Lemme guess, monogrammed "MAGA"?

Unfortunately they come with skidmarks.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Man, Trump needs to shut up.

Could the testing numbers be in line with capita? Gee. I dont know.....

Germany - 83 million people

Italy - 60 Million people

France - 67 Million People

Canada - 38 Million


USA - 328 Million



We SHOULD be kicking their asses in total testing.

 

[yankeesince59]

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C'mon man, that can't be Trump...Trump has tiny hands.

 

[THE HCP]

 

[magnifier661]

https://www.inquisitornashville.com...ained-interest-in-white-house-press-briefings
Report: US males, aged 15-95, take sudden unexplained interest in White House press briefings




Nashville, TN - According to ratings reports, today's White House press briefing, featuring Trump's new press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, garnered a record number of viewers among U.S. males aged 15 to 95.



James Burton, from the National Ratings Commission, told reporters, "We are still analyzing the data, but it is very clear that the U.S. males of a wide age range have taken a sudden unexplained interest in these White House briefings compared to when President Trump delivers them."



A deep dive into the report shows that there is no significant difference whether the viewers are Republican or Democrat, but it does show a slightly larger number of single viewers vs. married viewers.



The Trump administration says the ratings are a testament to the important information Trump provides for these briefings and they are happy to see that both liberal and conservative males finally agree on something.

 

[wizenheimer]

https://www.inquisitornashville.com...ained-interest-in-white-house-press-briefings
Report: US males, aged 15-95, take sudden unexplained interest in White House press briefings




Nashville, TN - According to ratings reports, today's White House press briefing, featuring Trump's new press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, garnered a record number of viewers among U.S. males aged 15 to 95.



James Burton, from the National Ratings Commission, told reporters, "We are still analyzing the data, but it is very clear that the U.S. males of a wide age range have taken a sudden unexplained interest in these White House briefings compared to when President Trump delivers them."



A deep dive into the report shows that there is no significant difference whether the viewers are Republican or Democrat, but it does show a slightly larger number of single viewers vs. married viewers.



The Trump administration says the ratings are a testament to the important information Trump provides for these briefings and they are happy to see that both liberal and conservative males finally agree on something.

I find that I'm a lot more interested in Katy Tur than in Chuck Todd

who gives a shit about Todd

 

[magnifier661]

I find that I'm a lot more interested in Katy Tur than in Chuck Todd

who gives a shit about Todd

She is pretty hot. I think Hallie Jackson is hot too, but the dripping nose event imagery always haunts me now.

 

[wizenheimer]

Man, Trump needs to shut up.

Could the testing numbers be in line with capita? Gee. I dont know.....

Germany - 83 million people

Italy - 60 Million people

France - 67 Million People

Canada - 38 Million


USA - 328 Million



We SHOULD be kicking their asses in total testing.

tests/1 million:

Iceland 150,465
UAE 121,330
Luxembourg 78,755
Lithuania 54,772
Israel 48,189
Kuwait 45,988
Denmark 44,497
Portugal 44,132
Ireland 43,493
Estonia 43,288
Spain 41,332
Belgium 39,362
Qatar 38,098
Italy 37,158
Latvia 35,071
Norway 34,984
Switzerland 33,092
New Zealand 32,335
Austria 31,742
Russia 30,564
Germany 30,400
Slovenia 27,660
Australia 26,069
Czechia 25,128
Canada 24,359
USA 22,960

we have been catching up lately, but we should have been toward the top of that list more than a month ago...and that's the big problem

 

[Orion Bailey]

tests/1 million:

Iceland 150,465
UAE 121,330
Luxembourg 78,755
Lithuania 54,772
Israel 48,189
Kuwait 45,988
Denmark 44,497
Portugal 44,132
Ireland 43,493
Estonia 43,288
Spain 41,332
Belgium 39,362
Qatar 38,098
Italy 37,158
Latvia 35,071
Norway 34,984
Switzerland 33,092
New Zealand 32,335
Austria 31,742
Russia 30,564
Germany 30,400
Slovenia 27,660
Australia 26,069
Czechia 25,128
Canada 24,359
USA 22,960

we have been catching up lately, but we should have been toward the top of that list more than a month ago...and that's the big problem

Hard to say for sure. I suppose it depends on the wave and how it spread. If we were one of the last countries to have it invade, then we would naturally be behind the other countries regarding the timeline. Or we could have started testing too early and been provided a false sense of security based on potential low percentages due to the Virus not having moved as far across our country yet.


Lots of variables.

I just wish Trump would get back to economic and foreign affairs and let the states and medical professionals deal with this.