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Newport, Oregon has been hit hard by a Covid outbreak and has actually brought back restrictions after a short period of re-opening:

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...avirus-outbreak-spreads-to-local-economy.html

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it may be the the rest of Oregon might have to follow Newport, and bring back some restrictions because our new positive case numbers have spiked:

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the arc is a logarithmic scale so it's kind of deceptive. We've gone from a rolling average of under 34 new cases/million to over 94 new cases/million, and done it in 14 days. That's nearly tripling the new case average, and that is pretty bad news considering how well we were doing as a state compared to other states. It isn't a function of more testing either as our new testing number have actually dropped over the last 8 days

by the way, the average new cases number over the last 3 days were the three highest numbers since the pandemic started. We didn't really "flatten the curve" like was talked about when the pandemic started. We reached a high mark, leveled out, than opened things up so we were essentially starting all over from a fairly high level on the arc instead of a flattened level of minimal cases
 
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BigGameDamian said:
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"I see the numbers also, and do MUCH better than they do." He may as well have said "They don't think it be like it is, but it do." Which is appropriate, since that quote was about dysfunction (the Yankees') too.
 
Minstrel said:
"I see the numbers also, and do MUCH better than they do." He may as well have said "They don't think it be like it is, but it do." Which is appropriate, since that quote was about dysfunction (the Yankees') too.
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This is the economic equivalent of "it will just go away, like magic, poof".

Idiot being idiot.
 
BigGameDamian said:
I really don't know what to say about this. Maybe they will hand out Hydroxychloroquine to everyone to take 20 mins before the rally starts.
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Probably mixed into Grape Kool-aid.

barfo
 
FEMA memo just released says still no real increase in production of PPE. But no problem since health workers can just reuse it and besides cases are going to go way down. Cases in state after state are skyrocketing.
 
crandc said:
FEMA memo just released says still no real increase in production of PPE. But no problem since health workers can just reuse it and besides cases are going to go way down. Cases in state after state are skyrocketing.
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No one wants to over manufacture/inventory unless the demand is there. Just in time mfg is what’s happening.
 
Hoopguru said:
No one wants to over manufacture/inventory unless the demand is there. Just in time mfg is what’s happening.
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which is what caused the problems in the first place because "just in time" is actually "five fucking weeks too late". That's the way it was in February, and that's the way it will be if we need that PPE in the fall
 
wizenheimer said:
which is what caused the problems in the first place because "just in time" is actually "five fucking weeks too late". That's the way it was in February, and that's the way it will be if we need that PPE in the fall
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No it won’t. Lots of companies are geared up.
 
tlongII said:
No it won’t. Lots of companies are geared up.
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wizenheimer said:
which is what caused the problems in the first place because "just in time" is actually "five fucking weeks too late". That's the way it was in February, and that's the way it will be if we need that PPE in the fall
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We know several that work in hospitals and they contend they are in good shape with PPE now.
It’s only a couple hospitals though.
Having worked for a major mfg I know all about just in time. It is a way to level schedule production so customers don’t have to place & take orders for 6-9 months all at once for volume discounts and most likely end up with huge surplus from year to year.
It was distributors and retailers requesting just in time at same discounts. Nobody wants to take more than they forecast for.
I agree that especially with seasonal products that shipment lead times can be crappy.
 
wizenheimer said:
which is what caused the problems in the first place because "just in time" is actually "five fucking weeks too late". That's the way it was in February, and that's the way it will be if we need that PPE in the fall
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Plus the States are very good at purchasing more than they need and stock pilling just so they can get an increased budget next year. Use it or lose it.
No incentive to be efficient only to get more from year to year. So, the fucking States need to take some ownership as well and some do. Plus the they don’t give a shit about ending up with more than they need.
 
crandc said:
FEMA memo just released says still no real increase in production of PPE. But no problem since health workers can just reuse it and besides cases are going to go way down. Cases in state after state are skyrocketing.
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Cases are going way down?
 
Hoopguru said:
No one wants to over manufacture/inventory unless the demand is there. Just in time mfg is what’s happening.
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The idea though is to be ahead of the pandemic, not to try and catch up. We tried that initially and it failed and all we have heard is trump blaming Obama for lack of supplies even though he had 3.5 years to restock and be prepared.
 
CupWizier said:
The idea though is to be ahead of the pandemic, not to try and catch up. We tried that initially and it failed and all we have heard is trump blaming Obama for lack of supplies even though he had 3.5 years to restock and be prepared.
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Agree it would be nice to stay ahead but everyone needs to pitch in forecast and the money including States, shouldn't have to depend on the FED to meet everyones projections. When it comes to governments there is always a blame game going on those that want to justify their existence. If the State of Oregon can stock pile equipment year after year without use or accountability/audits their emergency services departments can stock pile. I used to deal with emergency services in Salem and you wouldn't believe the inventory stock piled just for budgetary increases from one year to the next.
Governors need to be more proactive in many areas. Plus Oregon could just increase Sate income tax to cover additional inventory as residents here are willing to pay it.
 
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