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MARIS61 said:
But a vaccine on November 4th after a miracle Biden election would be safe, right? :biglaugh:
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No. Because Trump had it rushed to try and make himself look good. Biden has nothing to do with this so called vaccine. After Biden is elected he will make sure its done right.
 
I'm all for letting the Russians and Chinese to test the early vaccines....see how that turns out
 
riverman said:
Most specialists agree it'll be late 2021 when adequate trials have checked all the boxes.
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Because the Dems want to keep people in a state of panic, because they know Trump will still be POTUS.

It's run its course, and nobody is buying it anymore. Hence the wildfires.
 
MARIS61 said:
Because the Dems want to keep people in a state of panic, because they know Trump will still be POTUS.

It's run its course, and nobody is buying it anymore. Hence the wildfires.
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Well that's certainly not true...my granddaughters in San Luis Obispo both had it...the doctors at Oregon Cardiology tested me Friday and also disagree....as do people all across the globe...the Taipei news has no democratic journalists nor do the BBC ...both which my wife and I follow....the only denying of the virus is coming from Doofus McTrump and he has been exposed for the fake liar he is..but you know that. My nurse who has been a first responder at the hospital said 97% of the worst cases of corona virus that come in to emergency are anti maskers...everyone of them leaves knowing better how stupid they were to believe this bullshit line of Trump's to prop up Wall Street and his election talking points. Be smart, be safe...protect those of us who do give a shit
 
riverman said:
Most specialists agree it'll be late 2021 when adequate trials have checked all the boxes.
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No, they do not. That's the usual time frame for the traditional slow walk by the swamp. Working 24/7 with national emergency workforce and POTUS TRUMP'S leadership has us pretty much there.

Not that a vaccine will change anything. It's not a cure, or even a treatment.

It's simply man's weak imitation of herd immunity. Another globalist control gimmick.

Go ahead and pretend that you know everything they are injecting into your veins if it makes you feel better.

Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Education... have only you and your family's safety and well-being at the forefront in all of their joint ventures.
 
MARIS61 said:
No, they do not. That's the usual time frame for the traditional slow walk by the swamp. Working 24/7 with national emergency workforce and POTUS TRUMP'S leadership has us pretty much there.

Not that a vaccine will change anything. It's not a cure, or even a treatment.

It's simply man's weak imitation of herd immunity. Another globalist control gimmick.
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So POTUS TRUMP is a globalist out to control us with his vaccine? Is he in CAHOOTS with Bill Gates?

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
Go ahead and pretend that you know everything they are injecting into your veins if it makes you feel better.
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nobody is injecting anything in my veins....I'll wait until proper trials have proven to be safe for human use....until then, I already feel better....one of my granddaughters believed what you're spouting and probably has permanent lung damage now...don't spew false paranoid anti science qannon cult crap...you know better than that...you're ideology is going to look pretty silly after this runs it's course...go ahead and think it's over...Big Pharma and all the boogie men you have nightmares about are just part of the landscape....heart medications have saved my life....anti biotics saved me from a flesh eating bacteria decades ago as well.....go ahead and put a band aid on a streptocaucus A infection and see how long you live...72 injections and removal of the sking from my thigh ..two weeks quarantine in a hospital....guy in the next room to me died of it....I survived...don't peddle bullshit about medicine being the evil product of the boogey man Maris...really....if you get syphillis you better shoot up some penicillin
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...navirus-after-he-admitted-downplaying-it.html

Trump claims he 'up-played' the coronavirus despite admitting to Bob Woodward that he downplayed it

KEY POINTS
  • President Donald Trump denied that he had downplayed the threat of the coronavirus, claiming he "up-played" the danger of the disease through his actions.
  • Trump, speaking at an ABC News town hall event with voters in Philadelphia, said his moves early on in the Covid-19 crisis saved lives and demonstrated "action, not with the mouth but in actual fact."
  • Audio from a mid-March interview, released last week, shows Trump saying of the coronavirus: "I wanted to always play it down ... I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."
 
thedailybeast.com

Steve Bannon Is Behind Bogus Study That China Created COVID

A new study purporting to show that the novel coronavirus was manufactured in a Chinese lab was published by a pair of nonprofit groups linked to Steve Bannon, the former top Trump strategist now facing felony fraud charges.

The study, co-authored by a Chinese virologist who fled Hong Kong this year, claims that “laboratory manipulation is part of the history of SARS-CoV-2.” Its findings were quickly picked up by a handful of prominent news organizations such as the New York Post, which hyped the “explosive” allegations that run counter to virtually all existing scientific literature on the source of the virus.

The study is the work of the Rule of Law Society and the Rule of Law Foundation, sister nonprofit organizations that Bannon was instrumental in creating. According to documents posted on the Society’s website last year, he served as that group’s chair. The Bannon connection was first spotted by Kevin Bird, a Ph.D. candidate at Michigan State University, and shared by Carl Bergstrom, a biology professor at the University of Washington, who called the study “bizarre and unfounded.”

A search of Google Scholar and the Rule of Law Society and Rule of Law Foundation websites indicates that the organizations have not previously published scientific or medical research, and it’s unclear whether the paper received any peer review. It was posted on Monday on the website Zenodo, a publicly available repository of scientific and academic research to which anyone can upload their work.

Both of the nonprofits behind the study were formed in conjunction with exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui, with whom Bannon has collaborated on a number of advocacy efforts targeting the Chinese government and business endeavors that have drawn the scrutiny of federal law enforcement officials.

In addition to their work on the Rule of Law nonprofits, Bannon and Guo have also collaborated on a news website, G News, that has published stories suggesting that the coronavirus was manufactured by the Chinese military.

In July, Bannon appeared to tease forthcoming scientific studies supporting his contention that the coronavirus originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. He told the Daily Mail that scientists from the lab had “defected” to the U.S. and were collaborating with American intelligence agencies. On the “War Room: Pandemic” podcast, Bannon has hosted others who have speculated that the virus may have been a Chinese “bioweapon,” but he has said that he believes the most plausible explanation is that it “came out of experiments that were going on” at that Wuhan lab.

That’s a line that has been echoed by some prominent U.S. officials. President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have both alluded to intelligence reports supporting that theory. “This evidence is circumstantial, to be sure,” wrote Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) in an April column for the Wall Street Journal, “but it all points toward the Wuhan labs.”

While an accidental leak from the virology lab in Wuhan remains a theoretical possible source of the initial outbreak in the city, the vast majority of the scientific literature on the virus has determined that its origins were natural, and that it was not laboratory manufactured. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the Trump administration’s coronavirus point-person, has stressed repeatedly that all evidence indicates the virus was not man-made.

The study published by Bannon’s group on Monday is therefore particularly incendiary. “This virus is not from nature,” declared Dr. Li-Meng Yan, one of the scientists who conducted the study, during a Monday appearance on a British talk show. She called reports that the virus originated in a Wuhan meat market “a smoke screen” designed to obscure its true origins.

But other virologists disagree and say the paper makes false claims about a number of basic facts. “Basically, it's all circumstantial and some of it is entirely fictional,” Dr. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University, told The Daily Beast of the study.

The paper leads with a claim that the coronavirus' genes are "suspiciously similar to that of a bat coronavirus discovered by military laboratories" in China—an assertion Rasmussen says, that shouldn’t be surprising because “they are related SARS-like coronaviruses.”

The study’s authors made a similar claim about a portion of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein—which viruses use to breach and infect cells—and wrote that it’s similar to the original SARS virus in a “suspicious manner” and suggests genetic manipulation. “SARS-CoV also used ACE2 as a cellular receptor, as do other SARS-like bat coronaviruses,” Rasmussen says. “It is not suspicious and is in fact expected that the receptor binding domains that bind the same protein would be similar.”

Rasmussen also said that the paper misrepresented basic facts about another part of coronavirus spike proteins known as furin cleavage sites. The authors claim that SARS-CoV-2’s cleavage site is “unique” and unseen elsewhere in nature. But according to Rasmussen, “Furin cleavage sites occur naturally in many other beta-CoVs, including MERS-CoV and other SARS-like bat coronaviruses.”

Yan has said that she fled China to avoid reprisals from the government there over her allegations that it was not being forthcoming about the origin and nature of the virus. She said she warned officials in December that the virus was highly transmissible between humans but that her allegations were ignored.

The University of Hong Kong’s school of public health, where Yan was employed, has disputed her allegations that the university failed to heed her warnings prior to the outbreak in China.

In August, Yan appeared on Bannon’s podcast. During that show, Bannon said that he was “still not in the camp that believes they purposely let it out but I’ve been strongly in the camp from the beginning that it came out of the Wuhan P4 lab.”

Unrelated to his work with the Rule of Law groups, Bannon is also facing felony charges over what federal prosecutors say was an effort to extract millions of dollars from a nonprofit seeking to privately finance the construction of a wall on the southern U.S. border. Bannon has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
 
MARIS61 said:
Because the Dems want to keep people in a state of panic, because they know Trump will still be POTUS.

It's run its course, and nobody is buying it anymore. Hence the wildfires.
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Trump will be in possession of both the White House and the Noble prize.
 
There is a very big difference this election. Last election Trump could blame things on the current administration.
This time when he tries to Blame issues on other people the response is "Who Is The Current President"?

 
Man-made virus? Virologist Dr. Li-Meng thinks so. Many theories out there, so the jury's still out. Apparently, she (and others) will be releasing information soon.


 
Story at a glance https://thehill.com/changing-americ...6558-university-of-pittsburgh-scientists-find

  • Scientists said they have isolated the “smallest biological molecule” that “completely and specifically neutralizes” the coronavirus.
  • The component has been used to create the drug Ab8.
  • “Ab8 not only has potential as therapy for COVID-19, but it also could be used to keep people from getting SARS-CoV-2 infections,” John Mellors, co-author of the study and chief of the Division of Infectious Disease at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, said.
long ways away, as only testing presently in mice and hamsters. still, while not a true vaccine, a potential prophylactic if it proves efficacious. in other words a ray of hope.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
thedailybeast.com

Steve Bannon Is Behind Bogus Study That China Created COVID

A new study purporting to show that the novel coronavirus was manufactured in a Chinese lab was published by a pair of nonprofit groups linked to Steve Bannon, the former top Trump strategist now facing felony fraud charges.

The study, co-authored by a Chinese virologist who fled Hong Kong this year, claims that “laboratory manipulation is part of the history of SARS-CoV-2.” Its findings were quickly picked up by a handful of prominent news organizations such as the New York Post, which hyped the “explosive” allegations that run counter to virtually all existing scientific literature on the source of the virus.

The study is the work of the Rule of Law Society and the Rule of Law Foundation, sister nonprofit organizations that Bannon was instrumental in creating. According to documents posted on the Society’s website last year, he served as that group’s chair. The Bannon connection was first spotted by Kevin Bird, a Ph.D. candidate at Michigan State University, and shared by Carl Bergstrom, a biology professor at the University of Washington, who called the study “bizarre and unfounded.”

A search of Google Scholar and the Rule of Law Society and Rule of Law Foundation websites indicates that the organizations have not previously published scientific or medical research, and it’s unclear whether the paper received any peer review. It was posted on Monday on the website Zenodo, a publicly available repository of scientific and academic research to which anyone can upload their work.

Both of the nonprofits behind the study were formed in conjunction with exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui, with whom Bannon has collaborated on a number of advocacy efforts targeting the Chinese government and business endeavors that have drawn the scrutiny of federal law enforcement officials.

In addition to their work on the Rule of Law nonprofits, Bannon and Guo have also collaborated on a news website, G News, that has published stories suggesting that the coronavirus was manufactured by the Chinese military.

In July, Bannon appeared to tease forthcoming scientific studies supporting his contention that the coronavirus originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. He told the Daily Mail that scientists from the lab had “defected” to the U.S. and were collaborating with American intelligence agencies. On the “War Room: Pandemic” podcast, Bannon has hosted others who have speculated that the virus may have been a Chinese “bioweapon,” but he has said that he believes the most plausible explanation is that it “came out of experiments that were going on” at that Wuhan lab.

That’s a line that has been echoed by some prominent U.S. officials. President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have both alluded to intelligence reports supporting that theory. “This evidence is circumstantial, to be sure,” wrote Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) in an April column for the Wall Street Journal, “but it all points toward the Wuhan labs.”

While an accidental leak from the virology lab in Wuhan remains a theoretical possible source of the initial outbreak in the city, the vast majority of the scientific literature on the virus has determined that its origins were natural, and that it was not laboratory manufactured. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the Trump administration’s coronavirus point-person, has stressed repeatedly that all evidence indicates the virus was not man-made.

The study published by Bannon’s group on Monday is therefore particularly incendiary. “This virus is not from nature,” declared Dr. Li-Meng Yan, one of the scientists who conducted the study, during a Monday appearance on a British talk show. She called reports that the virus originated in a Wuhan meat market “a smoke screen” designed to obscure its true origins.

But other virologists disagree and say the paper makes false claims about a number of basic facts. “Basically, it's all circumstantial and some of it is entirely fictional,” Dr. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University, told The Daily Beast of the study.

The paper leads with a claim that the coronavirus' genes are "suspiciously similar to that of a bat coronavirus discovered by military laboratories" in China—an assertion Rasmussen says, that shouldn’t be surprising because “they are related SARS-like coronaviruses.”

The study’s authors made a similar claim about a portion of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein—which viruses use to breach and infect cells—and wrote that it’s similar to the original SARS virus in a “suspicious manner” and suggests genetic manipulation. “SARS-CoV also used ACE2 as a cellular receptor, as do other SARS-like bat coronaviruses,” Rasmussen says. “It is not suspicious and is in fact expected that the receptor binding domains that bind the same protein would be similar.”

Rasmussen also said that the paper misrepresented basic facts about another part of coronavirus spike proteins known as furin cleavage sites. The authors claim that SARS-CoV-2’s cleavage site is “unique” and unseen elsewhere in nature. But according to Rasmussen, “Furin cleavage sites occur naturally in many other beta-CoVs, including MERS-CoV and other SARS-like bat coronaviruses.”

Yan has said that she fled China to avoid reprisals from the government there over her allegations that it was not being forthcoming about the origin and nature of the virus. She said she warned officials in December that the virus was highly transmissible between humans but that her allegations were ignored.

The University of Hong Kong’s school of public health, where Yan was employed, has disputed her allegations that the university failed to heed her warnings prior to the outbreak in China.

In August, Yan appeared on Bannon’s podcast. During that show, Bannon said that he was “still not in the camp that believes they purposely let it out but I’ve been strongly in the camp from the beginning that it came out of the Wuhan P4 lab.”

Unrelated to his work with the Rule of Law groups, Bannon is also facing felony charges over what federal prosecutors say was an effort to extract millions of dollars from a nonprofit seeking to privately finance the construction of a wall on the southern U.S. border. Bannon has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
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ABM said:
Man-made virus? Virologist Dr. Li-Meng thinks so. Many theories out there, so the jury's still out. Apparently, she (and others) will be releasing information soon.


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Read the article I posted.
 
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