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'They used us as an experiment!' Inmates at Arkansas jail sue medical staff and the prison for 'secretly using ivermectin to treat their COVID-19 - while telling them the pills they were taking were vitamins'
  • The inmates at Washington County Jail said they were never told ivermectin was among the medications they had been given to treat their COVID-19
  • 'They said they were vitamins, steroids and antibiotics,' inmate Edrick Floreal-Wootenold said. 'We were running fevers, throwing up, diarrhea'
  • The lawsuit claims that inmates were unknowingly given the drug in August
  • The FDA and CDC have repeatedly warned against the use of ivermectin in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans
  • High doses of the drug, per the CDC, can cause hallucinations, coma and death
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-prison-giving-ivermectin-treat-COVID-19.html
 
Phatguysrule said:
Jesus Christ. How loudly do nurses and doctors have to beg and plead before people stop spreading this bullshit?

There are stupid people listening to this horseshit you're spreading around.
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I didn’t say anything that was incorrect. Calling something “horseshit” because you failed to disprove it isn’t an indictment against me, it’s a failure on your part. Being outraged and exclaiming people are stupid doesn’t really prove anything, it just makes you look angry and wrong (still).
 
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jonnyboy said:
I didn’t say anything that was incorrect. Calling basic something “horseshit” because you failed to disprove it isn’t an indictment against me, it’s a failure on your part. Being outraged and exclaiming people are stupid doesn’t really prove anything, it just makes you look angry and wrong (still).
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I've disproven you multiple times. You're wrong. As the links you've been shown have proven.

And I am angry. Because people like you are enabling stupid people to continue being stupid.

You understand all of this, but you don't want to admit you are wrong.

Every legitimate expert professional in the world agrees with me and disagrees with you. You are using stupid people to feed your need for conspiracies and to feel smart.

It's shameful.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I've disproven you multiple times. You're wrong. As the links you've been shown have proven.

And I am angry. Because people like you are enabling stupid people to continue being stupid.

You understand all of this, but you don't want to admit you are wrong.

Every legitimate expert professional in the world agrees with me and disagrees with you. You are using stupid people to feed your need for conspiracies and to feel smart.

It's shameful.
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Hospitals aren’t full. You couldn’t provide one example of a hospital that was completely full. You gave examples of ones “nearing capacity” or “15% away from capacity”. That doesn’t support your initial claim of “overflowing hospitals”. Then you changed the language to “staffing shortages”, which by the way is a whole different argument that doesn’t exactly make your demands of firing the unvaccinated look super stellar. Kind of just compounds the problem you were bitching about in the first place, doesn’t it?
Once again, your anger doesn’t make you right, it just makes you increasingly unreasonable.
 
jonnyboy said:
Hospitals aren’t full. You couldn’t provide one example of a hospital that was completely full. You gave examples of ones “nearing capacity” or “15% away from capacity”. That doesn’t support your initial claim of “overflowing hospitals”. Then you changed the language to “staffing shortages”, which by the way is a whole different argument that doesn’t exactly make your demands of firing the unvaccinated look super stellar. Kind of just compounds the problem you were bitching about in the first place, doesn’t it?
Once again, your anger doesn’t make you right, it just makes you increasingly unreasonable.
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I'm advocating for paying unvaccinated staff to treat unvaccinated people.

Please stop changing the converation to try and support your conspiracy theories.

You are wrong and have been constantly proven wrong. For 2 fucking years.

You're wrong.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
I'm advocating for paying unvaccinated staff to treat unvaccinated people.

Please stop changing the converation to try and support your conspiracy theories.

You are wrong myiu have been constantly proven wrong. For 2 fucking years.

You're wrong.
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cOnSpIrAcY ThEoRiEs!!!!! Booga booga!! The bad man is gonna get you! Jeez louise it was a pretty basic claim you made. It turned out to be incorrect, that doesn’t exactly make me the conspiracy theorist here. Thinking your intentions are righteous ones doesn’t make you correct on everything covid-related.
 
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jonnyboy said:
cOnSpIrAcY ThEoRiEs!!!!! Booga booga!! The bad man is gonna get you! Jeez louise it was a pretty basic claim you made. It turned out to be incorrect, that doesn’t exactly make me the conspiracy theorist here. Thinking your intentions are righteous ones doesn’t make you correct on everything covid-related.
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You've been making/trying to spread conspiracy theories for years. My claim that hospitals are overrun because of covid-19 is correct, as I proved with my links.

You refusing to acknowledge that just makes you look more biased, and frankly childish.

You are wrong again. You should be used to it, even if you're too petty to admit it. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
 
jonnyboy said:
Hospitals aren’t full. You couldn’t provide one example of a hospital that was completely full. You gave examples of ones “nearing capacity” or “15% away from capacity”. That doesn’t support your initial claim of “overflowing hospitals”. Then you changed the language to “staffing shortages”, which by the way is a whole different argument that doesn’t exactly make your demands of firing the unvaccinated look super stellar. Kind of just compounds the problem you were bitching about in the first place, doesn’t it?
Once again, your anger doesn’t make you right, it just makes you increasingly unreasonable.
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As hospitals get closer to surpassing the level of care they are able to provide they start reducing or temporarily suspending care and services in other areas. In the greatest country on earth, we have at times during the pandemic had to ration healthcare. All of the statistics show that people who have been vaccinated overall require less of our now limited healthcare resources. People who aren't vaccinated or fully vaccinated are requiring more of those limited healthcare resources.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
You've been making/trying to spread conspiracy theories for years. My claim that hospitals are overrun because of covid-19 is correct, as I proved with my links.

You refusing to acknowledge that just makes you look more biased, and frankly childish.

You are wrong again. You should be used to it, even if you're too petty to admit it. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
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Hospitals aren’t full. They aren’t. Not really sure how else to explain this to you. You seem to have to keep moving the goal posts to try and irk out some type of a win in this argument, but the fact is you haven’t been able to point to one single hospital that is completely full. Period. You haven’t proved your point and you can’t because you don’t have one. You’ve actually resorted to name calling while trying to suggest I’m the one being childish, while also being wrong the entire time. The lack of self awareness with you is crazy.
It’s amazing that just because you think you have the correct outlook on covid in general, that you think you are somehow correct in every piece of covid info you randomly blurt out without researching. And that since I’m on the “wrong” side, you can simply write off everything I say as conspiracy. It’s like dealing with a religious cult, facts don’t really matter, there’s just smart, good people and scary, bad people. Completely binary and lacking in any critical thought.
 
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Has anyone seen the Kayak ad spoofing Covidiots? Woman tells man her mother is Kayak denier. Crazed looking Karen screams DO THE RESEARCH! and THEY ARE LYING! before storming off screaming OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!
 
jonnyboy said:
Hospitals aren’t full. You couldn’t provide one example of a hospital that was completely full. You gave examples of ones “nearing capacity” or “15% away from capacity”. That doesn’t support your initial claim of “overflowing hospitals”. Then you changed the language to “staffing shortages”, which by the way is a whole different argument that doesn’t exactly make your demands of firing the unvaccinated look super stellar. Kind of just compounds the problem you were bitching about in the first place, doesn’t it?
Once again, your anger doesn’t make you right, it just makes you increasingly unreasonable.
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jonnyboy said:
Hospitals aren’t full. They aren’t. Not really sure how else to explain this to you. You seem to have to keep moving the goal posts to try and irk out some type of a win in this argument, but the fact is you haven’t been able to point to one single hospital that is completely full. Period. You haven’t proved your point and you can’t because you don’t have one. You’ve actually resorted to name calling while trying to suggest I’m the one being childish, while also being wrong the entire time. The lack of self awareness with you is crazy.
It’s amazing that just because you think you have the correct outlook on covid in general, that you think you are somehow correct in every piece of covid info you randomly blurt out without researching. And that since I’m on the “wrong” side, you can simply write off everything I say as conspiracy. It’s like dealing with a religious cult, facts don’t really matter, there’s just smart, good people and scary, bad people. Completely binary and lacking in any critical thought.
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All day, every day…
 
HailBlazers said:
Ok.

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He called bullshit on your comment that "Masks haven't stopped anything in local schools."

That article suggests the opposite, so unless you're trying to prove yourself wrong I don't know what you're trying to accomplish.

I mean the article even says, “Any mask is better than no mask. But cloth masks and then surgical masks are not as good as N95-caliber masks,”

It also says, "She would recommend those same masks, which come in children’s sizes, to parents getting ready to send their children to school in the new year." The link in the sentence by the way directly contradicts you as well... the article is even titled:
Schools With Face-Mask Requirements Had Fewer Covid-19 Outbreaks, CDC Study Finds


Try again.
 
jonnyboy said:
Hospitals aren’t full. They aren’t. Not really sure how else to explain this to you. You seem to have to keep moving the goal posts to try and irk out some type of a win in this argument, but the fact is you haven’t been able to point to one single hospital that is completely full. Period. You haven’t proved your point and you can’t because you don’t have one. You’ve actually resorted to name calling while trying to suggest I’m the one being childish, while also being wrong the entire time. The lack of self awareness with you is crazy.
It’s amazing that just because you think you have the correct outlook on covid in general, that you think you are somehow correct in every piece of covid info you randomly blurt out without researching. And that since I’m on the “wrong” side, you can simply write off everything I say as conspiracy. It’s like dealing with a religious cult, facts don’t really matter, there’s just smart, good people and scary, bad people. Completely binary and lacking in any critical thought.
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And you're still just spewing bullshit. I haven't called you any names. Unless you're implying that "wrong" is your name.

LMAO. Shit I wouldn't put that past you after the acrobatics you've been doing today...

Yeah, you should probably report the name calling to the mods...
 
SlyPokerDog said:
'They used us as an experiment!' Inmates at Arkansas jail sue medical staff and the prison for 'secretly using ivermectin to treat their COVID-19 - while telling them the pills they were taking were vitamins'
  • The inmates at Washington County Jail said they were never told ivermectin was among the medications they had been given to treat their COVID-19
  • 'They said they were vitamins, steroids and antibiotics,' inmate Edrick Floreal-Wootenold said. 'We were running fevers, throwing up, diarrhea'
  • The lawsuit claims that inmates were unknowingly given the drug in August
  • The FDA and CDC have repeatedly warned against the use of ivermectin in treating or preventing COVID-19 in humans
  • High doses of the drug, per the CDC, can cause hallucinations, coma and death
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-prison-giving-ivermectin-treat-COVID-19.html
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This happened to me in Vietnam. Everyday at supper time there would be a bowl of very large pinkish pills that we were told were for malaria. Years later in some sort of national magazine I read a story that such pills were for an experimental drug.
 
jonnyboy said:
Hospitals aren’t full. You couldn’t provide one example of a hospital that was completely full. You gave examples of ones “nearing capacity” or “15% away from capacity”. That doesn’t support your initial claim of “overflowing hospitals”. Then you changed the language to “staffing shortages”, which by the way is a whole different argument that doesn’t exactly make your demands of firing the unvaccinated look super stellar. Kind of just compounds the problem you were bitching about in the first place, doesn’t it?
Once again, your anger doesn’t make you right, it just makes you increasingly unreasonable.
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My elective surgery has been put off twice because of all of the Covid-19 cases at the Portland VA hospital. That's why I didn't start peritoneal dialysis a long time ago.
 
Lanny said:
My elective surgery has been put off twice because of all of the Covid-19 cases at the Portland VA hospital. That's why I didn't start peritoneal dialysis a long time ago.
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But Lanny, they're owning the libs!
 
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