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Phatguysrule said:
And you're still just spewing bullshit. I haven't called you any names. Unless you're implying that "wrong" is your name.

LMAO. Shit I wouldn't put that past you after the acrobatics you've been doing today...

Yeah, you should probably report the name calling to the mods...
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You were calling me a conspiracy theorist, which is fine, doesn’t hurt my feelings any. Not really an egregious insult. It does show a lack of argument though when you have to resort to attacking someone’s character because you failed to prove anything related to the actual topic at hand. Dumb little emojis and saying you feel sorry me are just further examples of your poor discourse and avoidance of the topic.
 
jonnyboy said:
You were calling me a conspiracy theorist, which is fine, doesn’t hurt my feelings any. Not really an egregious insult. It does show a lack of argument though when you have to resort to attacking someone’s character because you failed to prove anything related to the actual topic at hand. Dumb little emojis and saying you feel sorry me are just further examples of your poor discourse and avoidance of the topic.
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You’ll have to forgive some of us. 1300 pages is a fairly long time. Not sure how anyone still engaging in this shit show after 1300 pages can be accused of “avoiding the topic”. I am certain that if someone wanted to find Phats (or mine) reasoning, backed with facts, they can knock themselves out and search those 1300 pages.
 
jonnyboy said:
Hospitals aren’t full. They aren’t. Not really sure how else to explain this to you. You seem to have to keep moving the goal posts to try and irk out some type of a win in this argument, but the fact is you haven’t been able to point to one single hospital that is completely full. Period. You haven’t proved your point and you can’t because you don’t have one. You’ve actually resorted to name calling while trying to suggest I’m the one being childish, while also being wrong the entire time. The lack of self awareness with you is crazy.
It’s amazing that just because you think you have the correct outlook on covid in general, that you think you are somehow correct in every piece of covid info you randomly blurt out without researching. And that since I’m on the “wrong” side, you can simply write off everything I say as conspiracy. It’s like dealing with a religious cult, facts don’t really matter, there’s just smart, good people and scary, bad people. Completely binary and lacking in any critical thought.
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Hospitals in most states are passing 80%. That's full enough. That's overrun with covid cases.
 
Chris Craig said:
Hospitals in most states are passing 80%. That's full enough. That's overrun with covid cases.
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Ok, if you want to have a “full enough” argument that’s fine. Just don’t conflate it with “full”. You’re perfectly within your right to think 80% is too full or full enough, I don’t particularly care to even argue with you about it because I don’t think it’s that extreme of a position to take up. Making unfounded, alarmist claims of hospitals being “full” and“overflowing” is a different story. Like I said before, considering one’s self a good steward to the covid narrative doesn’t necessarily make that person correct on every piece of information they blurt out. There are still facts and realities that exist regardless of whether someone thinks they’re a good boy.
 
noknobs said:
And you're oblivious to both. I guess willful ignorance is your choice.
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And once again, a passive aggressive insult and direct avoidance of the topic I’m supposedly “oblivious” to. For something I’m willfully ignoring, I seem to be the only one willing to address it. Interesting logic.
 
jonnyboy said:
And once again, a passive aggressive insult and direct avoidance of the topic I’m supposedly “oblivious” to. For something I’m willfully ignoring, I seem to be the only one willing to address it. Interesting logic.
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I've directly responded to many of your posts in the past and you've not responded. So yes, you willfully ignore facts and reality. If you care to go back and read, do so, but I've already wasted too much of my time trying to have a reasonable conversation with you.
 
jonnyboy said:
Ok, if you want to have a “full enough” argument that’s fine. Just don’t conflate it with “full”. You’re perfectly within your right to think 80% is too full or full enough, I don’t particularly care to even argue with you about it because I don’t think it’s that extreme of a position to take up. Making unfounded, alarmist claims of hospitals being “full” and“overflowing” is a different story. Like I said before, considering one’s self a good steward to the covid narrative doesn’t necessarily make that person correct on every piece of information they blurt out. There are still facts and realities that exist regardless of whether someone thinks they’re a good boy.
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Too full or not too full, that is the question.
 
This feels like a very much Joe Biden thing ... he's trying to do the right thing but the tests probably won't arrive for another 4-6 weeks and by that point the latest variant will have passed by and we will be winding down cold/flu season. This would have been great to have out by Thanksgiving, now it feels way late but I'll still take my four!
 
Way ahead of y'all. Both of my tests showed up yesterday.

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False negatives and false positives are all the rage.
 
riverman said:
You can contract it any time after actually being negative from a test....it's airborn so people have contracted it more than once....the rage is all coming from people...not test results...it's why basketball players and staff had to be tested over and over to perform in a public arena....a healthy person can become a host in one breath.
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Then I want SIX test kits sent!!
 
riverman said:
The govt website I used only allows four but if you have multiple addresses you can probably hoard them
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It'll probably take more than six the way these things have been going. I'll shoot for best-of-seven to determine a winner.
 
ABM said:
It'll probably take more than six the way these things have been going. I'll shoot for best-of-seven to determine a winner.
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As I said in a different thread I've been helping people get in-home tests, just delivered one this morning to a lady for her son, just not seeing these tests being inaccurate.
 
I’m generally in the “do the right thing” camp (whatever “the right thing” might be this week) and maybe I’m just too stupid to live, but just what is the purpose of these tests??? Omicron is supposedly everywhere, and highly contagious. Most, if not all of us have been exposed (or will be) and some will get sick. What purpose does the test serve?? I work side by side with a lady who recently caught covid from her son and grandchildren. We both wear masks and we are both vaccinated and boosted. I have not gotten sick, yet it would not surprise me if I tested positive. She is back at work and is no longer contagious. And I’m still healthy. I just don’t see what a covid test will do for me other than to prod me to stay home if I test positive. Or I can keep going to work and be exposed time and again by customers who themselves are positive. Six of one, half dozen of another. I’m vaccinated, boosted, wear masks and exercise diligent hygiene. Screw the tests. All they do is prolong the confusion, ignorance and apathy. I guess I’d rather live my life again and trust the vaccine. And fuck anyone and everyone who refuses to get vaccinated. We all get what we deserve in the end……….
 
jonnyboy said:
Ok, if you want to have a “full enough” argument that’s fine. Just don’t conflate it with “full”. You’re perfectly within your right to think 80% is too full or full enough, I don’t particularly care to even argue with you about it because I don’t think it’s that extreme of a position to take up. Making unfounded, alarmist claims of hospitals being “full” and“overflowing” is a different story. Like I said before, considering one’s self a good steward to the covid narrative doesn’t necessarily make that person correct on every piece of information they blurt out. There are still facts and realities that exist regardless of whether someone thinks they’re a good boy.
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It's easy to play the semantic game. I don't know if any hospital is at full capacity, I haven't seen phatguys links. There have been and if this spike doesn't curve down quickly there is about to be again. 38 states have hospitals at 80% or higher capacity. That is of great concern. We should be alarmed.

You seem to be of the notion we shouldn't be alarmed right now, that Phatguy and others are crying wolf. 80% and I'm sure it's rising doesn't leave for much exaggeration. Hospitals are overflowing with covid patients. We don't have enough doctors and nurses because they too are getting sick. This is reality.
 
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