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I'm pretty sure you hold it until you get home. But, that's OK, too.
OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (1 Viewer)
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I'm pretty sure you hold it until you get home. But, that's OK, too.
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(just wow)
Because your comments to me indicate that you would be highly unwilling to visit a public bathroom due to their apparent uncleanliness. OTOH, perhaps, you just trudge through the experience/ordeal and take your chances accordingly. Buyer Beware.
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Again, wow.
There's such a thing as not touching the sink itself, and using paper towels to touch sink/door handles, etc.
You must be a blast on road trips. LOL Wait! I just spotted a tree!
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Sure. I remember everything I told you in 2013. I was probably being facetious then, as well.
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That's not at all what I said to e-Blazer. I related a news article, then responded that I'd probably soap-up in restaurant, grocery store. department/box store restrooms, while using some, uhm, common sense. That said, it appears you've rarely/never used a restaurant bathroom, so I may be speaking to a wall here.
Again, I related what "I" would probably do. You (and others) can do what you'd like. Far be it from me to "convince" you. LOL
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ABM didn't explain the green font though; Sly did. And nobody said people should use it to indicate sarcasm, simply that many do.
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I've heard that masks help an infected person not spread the virus, but they don't help a healthy person avoid it. Healthy people wearing masks accomplish nothing.
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So?....ABM was the one who told me to "Learn the green font"...and THAT was the point.
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Correct. Your earlier post said that ABM made that comment, and then explained. I was simply clarfying.
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While not completely protecting the person wearing the mask, it's better that wearing absolutely nothing at all. The type of mask and how well it fits also has a lot to do with it.
Also, someone wearing the mask may already unknowingly be infected and the mask could therefore as you pointed out help curb infecting others.
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Awesome, you're doing a great job of following along behind me. And, truly, for one reason...and one reason alone. I support Donald Trump. You hate that, don't you. It really grates you to no end. Well, keep tagging along. It's gonna be a rough 'nother 4 years for ya.
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I'll go with Time magazine and the CDC on this one.
https://time.com/5794729/coronavirus-face-masks/
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It depends on where you are. All the time, no. Just stay 6 feet away from people.
In an airport? I'd wear one.
Going to visit grandma in the nursing home or hospital? Wear one.
Masks can provide limited protection for you but more importantly, a person can be infected and not know it. Wearing a mask can also help to prevent you from getting others sick.
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You relate to Sheldon well I see.
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I remember that one time at a Wheels Meet 'n Greet you sneezed all over me without covering your mouth. Dude, I left half my wings!
j/k
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Well, that's completely up to you...here's plenty of links that can be provided that show differing views.
There are also many different types of masks.
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@ABM and @yankeesince59 you've been asked once already to stop with the personal attacks and snarking at each other.
Please stop and please self edit/delete some of your posts in this thread. If staff has to go through your many posts and do it they'll get grumpy and complain to me and then I'll ban you both from the thread.
Love you both!
Please stop and please self edit/delete some of your posts in this thread. If staff has to go through your many posts and do it they'll get grumpy and complain to me and then I'll ban you both from the thread.
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The "don't buy masks because hospitals need them" is such a stupid argument.
Hospitals don't buy medical supplies at the local store. If your doctor is buying masks from the local walmart he ain't a real doctor.
Now, if manufacturers and distributors are diverting supplies from the medical supply chain to the retail market for the higher prices they can charge that's not on the consumer. That's akin to war profiteering and federal and local governments need to put an end to it.
Hospitals don't buy medical supplies at the local store. If your doctor is buying masks from the local walmart he ain't a real doctor.
Now, if manufacturers and distributors are diverting supplies from the medical supply chain to the retail market for the higher prices they can charge that's not on the consumer. That's akin to war profiteering and federal and local governments need to put an end to it.
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Yes, you do relate.
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15 MILLION people will die and the global economy will take a $2.3 TRILLION hit from coronavirus in the BEST-CASE scenario, new study predicts
The research by the Australian National University also found that global GDP could shrink by as much as $2.3trillion even in what they call a 'low-end' pandemic.
In the most disastrous scenario, the death toll could reach a staggering 68million including hundreds of thousands of deaths in Britain and the United States.
In that worst-case pandemic, some countries' economies would shrink by as much as eight per cent in a global meltdown.
The two researchers who published the paper, Warwick McKibbon and Roshen Fernando, warn that 'even a contained outbreak could significantly impact the global economy in the short run'.
In the so-called 'low-severity' case, the death rate in China is estimated at around two per cent and adjusted for other countries.
The global death rate has been drifting higher than that in recent weeks, currently hovering around 3.4 per cent.
In that 'low-end' pandemic, the study estimates that more than 15million people would die within the first year of the outbreak, which started in China last December.
The estimates suggest that India and China would each lose millions of people, with more than 230,000 people killed in the United States.
'These estimated deaths from COVID-19 can be compared to a regular influenza season in the United States, where around 55,000 people die each year,' researchers point out.
Britain - which has only seen one death so far - could expect to see 64,000 fatalities, with 79,000 in Germany and 60,000 in France.
South Korea and Italy, which have suffered particularly widespread outbreaks in recent weeks, would also be bracing for tens of thousands of deaths, the study says.
In that scenario, Britain's GDP would drop by around 1.5 per cent, with America's economy shrinking by 2.0 per cent.
The global economy would take a $2.3 trillion hit, the researchers estimate, with Australia and Germany also forecast to slide into severe recessions.
In the 'high-severity' forecast, the coronavirus outbreak would cause a catastrophic death toll of more than 68 million people around the world, researchers say.
The dead would include more than 12 million people in China alone, as well as 1.1million in the United States.
Britain's death toll would be a catastrophic 290,000, with Germany and France likewise losing hundreds of thousands of people.
Russia's fatality count would also be approaching a million in that scenario, the researchers' data shows.
In that disastrous outcome, the global economy would take a $9.2trillion hit with many countries facing very deep recessions.
The British economy would shrink by 6.0 per cent in 2020 in that scenario - worse than the 4.2 per cent drop it suffered at the depths of the global financial crisis in 2009.
Meanwhile the U.S. economy would suffer an 8.4 per cent drop in a recession which would reverberate around the world.
There is also a 'mid-severity' estimate, in which the global death toll would be around 38million and the global economic hit around $5.3trillion.
Researchers say that the probablity of any of their projected outcomes are 'highly uncertain'.
'The goal is not to be definitive about the virus outbreak but to provide important information about a range of possible economic costs of the disease,' they say.
They add: 'Amidst the slowing down of the Chinese economy with interruptions to production, the functioning of global supply chains has been disrupted.'
'Companies across the world, irrespective of size, dependent upon inputs from China have started experiencing contractions in production.
'Transport being limited and even restricted among countries has further slowed down global economic activities.
'Most importantly, some panic among consumers and firms has distorted usual consumption patterns and created market anomalies.
'Global financial markets have also been responsive to the changes and global stock indices have plunged.
'Amidst the global turbulence, in an initial assessment, the International Monetary Fund expects China to slow down by 0.4 percentage points compared to its initial growth target to 5.6 per cent, also slowing down global growth by 0.1 percentage points.'
The researchers say that a 'range of policy responses will be required' to prevent disaster.
The current global death toll is 3,383 out of 98,703 confirmed cases.
Most of them are in China, but the virus has been spreading faster in other hotspots such as Italy, Iran and South Korea in recent weeks.
Tokyo stocks ended the morning session more than three percent lower on Friday, as worries over the spread of the new coronavirus intensified.
Some countries have already announced an economic stimulus, with Italy yesterday unveiling plans to loosen its budgetary rules.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eople-die-best-case-coronavirus-scenario.html
- Research by Australian National University lays out a range of virus outcomes
- In the worst case, the global death toll could reach a staggering 68 million
- Some countries' economies could shrink by eight per cent in a global meltdown
The research by the Australian National University also found that global GDP could shrink by as much as $2.3trillion even in what they call a 'low-end' pandemic.
In the most disastrous scenario, the death toll could reach a staggering 68million including hundreds of thousands of deaths in Britain and the United States.
In that worst-case pandemic, some countries' economies would shrink by as much as eight per cent in a global meltdown.
The two researchers who published the paper, Warwick McKibbon and Roshen Fernando, warn that 'even a contained outbreak could significantly impact the global economy in the short run'.
In the so-called 'low-severity' case, the death rate in China is estimated at around two per cent and adjusted for other countries.
The global death rate has been drifting higher than that in recent weeks, currently hovering around 3.4 per cent.
In that 'low-end' pandemic, the study estimates that more than 15million people would die within the first year of the outbreak, which started in China last December.
The estimates suggest that India and China would each lose millions of people, with more than 230,000 people killed in the United States.
'These estimated deaths from COVID-19 can be compared to a regular influenza season in the United States, where around 55,000 people die each year,' researchers point out.
Britain - which has only seen one death so far - could expect to see 64,000 fatalities, with 79,000 in Germany and 60,000 in France.
South Korea and Italy, which have suffered particularly widespread outbreaks in recent weeks, would also be bracing for tens of thousands of deaths, the study says.
In that scenario, Britain's GDP would drop by around 1.5 per cent, with America's economy shrinking by 2.0 per cent.
The global economy would take a $2.3 trillion hit, the researchers estimate, with Australia and Germany also forecast to slide into severe recessions.
In the 'high-severity' forecast, the coronavirus outbreak would cause a catastrophic death toll of more than 68 million people around the world, researchers say.
The dead would include more than 12 million people in China alone, as well as 1.1million in the United States.
Britain's death toll would be a catastrophic 290,000, with Germany and France likewise losing hundreds of thousands of people.
Russia's fatality count would also be approaching a million in that scenario, the researchers' data shows.
In that disastrous outcome, the global economy would take a $9.2trillion hit with many countries facing very deep recessions.
The British economy would shrink by 6.0 per cent in 2020 in that scenario - worse than the 4.2 per cent drop it suffered at the depths of the global financial crisis in 2009.
Meanwhile the U.S. economy would suffer an 8.4 per cent drop in a recession which would reverberate around the world.
There is also a 'mid-severity' estimate, in which the global death toll would be around 38million and the global economic hit around $5.3trillion.
Researchers say that the probablity of any of their projected outcomes are 'highly uncertain'.
'The goal is not to be definitive about the virus outbreak but to provide important information about a range of possible economic costs of the disease,' they say.
They add: 'Amidst the slowing down of the Chinese economy with interruptions to production, the functioning of global supply chains has been disrupted.'
'Companies across the world, irrespective of size, dependent upon inputs from China have started experiencing contractions in production.
'Transport being limited and even restricted among countries has further slowed down global economic activities.
'Most importantly, some panic among consumers and firms has distorted usual consumption patterns and created market anomalies.
'Global financial markets have also been responsive to the changes and global stock indices have plunged.
'Amidst the global turbulence, in an initial assessment, the International Monetary Fund expects China to slow down by 0.4 percentage points compared to its initial growth target to 5.6 per cent, also slowing down global growth by 0.1 percentage points.'
The researchers say that a 'range of policy responses will be required' to prevent disaster.
The current global death toll is 3,383 out of 98,703 confirmed cases.
Most of them are in China, but the virus has been spreading faster in other hotspots such as Italy, Iran and South Korea in recent weeks.
Tokyo stocks ended the morning session more than three percent lower on Friday, as worries over the spread of the new coronavirus intensified.
Some countries have already announced an economic stimulus, with Italy yesterday unveiling plans to loosen its budgetary rules.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eople-die-best-case-coronavirus-scenario.html
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Done.
And I can feel the "love"...my first indication was the neighbor's Lab humping my leg.
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Was at a park with my kids a couple days ago, and this fairly large black and white dog comes running in (owner not in site), that thing was a really horny dog we’ll leave it at that lol. Owner eventually came, but I was laughing so hard. Never occurred to me that mustve been sly until just now.Done.
And I can feel the "love"...my first indication was the neighbor's Lab humping my leg.