OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

[BigGameDamian]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

oh and also people who go protest and block traffic in front of hospitals should be run over.

It's statements like this is what makes @bodyman5000 and 1 essential. Think of the cars and damage to them, does no one care about the cars?!?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Third taskforce lucky! Donald Trump invites members of Congress to join ANOTHER White House brain trust - after calls with CEOs turned into a 's**t show' and they told him testing comes ahead of reopening the country

• President Trump is putting together yet another coronavirus taskforce, comprised of members of Congress from both parties
• The president scheduled calls Thursday morning for members of the House and then the Senate
• The calls come one day after he talked to business leaders with one executive describing Trump's call with Wall Street head honchos a 's*** show'
• The president wants to bring the economy back online by May 1 when the administration's '30 Days to Slow the Spread' expires
• But experts, including business leaders, have cautioned Trump that's unreasonable without widespread testing in place

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ess-members-join-White-House-brain-trust.html

 

[Orion Bailey]

That’s irrelevant because our economy, our world, has that number baked into it already. We know people die and we plan for it. We do not plan for a surprised death toll in the hundreds of thousands if we open up too soon. If thousands and thousands of people die, they aren’t going to work. This hurts businesses. Or we keep people home longer, adapt as best we can, keep as many people alive as we can, have the government provide money in a smart way to businesses so they can keep paying people and come back when the time is right. If we have another stimulus bill that must be provided maybe next time Harvard, Yale and the like don’t get $14M when they have an endowment in the tens of Billions? Money should not be the issue. Doing stupid shit with it is the issue.

oh and also people who go protest and block traffic in front of hospitals should be run over.

Id like to ask what you think would hurt the long term economy more? American Companies having to replenish 1% of the work force(a few hundred thousand). Or America having 10% of it's businesses close down for good?


I'm pretty sure I know what the answer is. Unfortunately and as cold as it sounds, its a numbers game. Alot more could go without jobs if their companies cant open back up.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Gyms can reopen if they can maintain social distancing....LoL. ya that's happening.

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...vanka-trump-jared-kushner-passover/index.html

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner don't think the coronavirus rules apply to them

 

[RR7]

Is it that big a deal to go from one house to another?

 

[magnifier661]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...vanka-trump-jared-kushner-passover/index.html

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner don't think the coronavirus rules apply to them

This is already in the Orange Man Bad thread.

 

[yankeesince59]

That’s irrelevant because our economy, our world, has that number baked into it already. We know people die and we plan for it. We do not plan for a surprised death toll in the hundreds of thousands if we open up too soon. If thousands and thousands of people die, they aren’t going to work. This hurts businesses. Or we keep people home longer, adapt as best we can, keep as many people alive as we can, have the government provide money in a smart way to businesses so they can keep paying people and come back when the time is right. If we have another stimulus bill that must be provided maybe next time Harvard, Yale and the like don’t get $14M when they have an endowment in the tens of Billions? Money should not be the issue. Doing stupid shit with it is the issue.

oh and also people who go protest and block traffic in front of hospitals should be run over.

Plus, those 600,000 people with heart disease will continue to die, with or without a boost from covid19. In fact, I would think that many of those heart patients who may have otherwise survived another few years, will die because of covid19.

 

[yankeesince59]

This is already in the Orange Man Bad thread.

Couldn't resist checking out that thread, eh?... lol...just jerking your chain, man.

 

[magnifier661]

Couldn't resist checking out that thread, eh?... lol...just jerking your chain, man.

Lol I think it was the first post.

 

[jonnyboy]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...vanka-trump-jared-kushner-passover/index.html

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner don't think the coronavirus rules apply to them

Ugh, that story reads with the most whiny, insufferable tattle-tale tone.

I mean, is CNN really still claiming to be a news outlet? This is nothing more than partisan political commentary, same as FOX news (had to throw that disclaimer in there so the dolts don’t start screaming wHaT aBoUt FoX NeWs?!?!?)

If someone agrees with these ideas, that’s perfectly fine. People are entitled to an opinion.

But to present these stories as news, and for these outlets to claim they are engaging in journalism, is really just shameful and unfortunate. Especially for the lesser-informed people in this country who think they are being provided a necessary service.

 

[magnifier661]

Ugh, that story reads with the most whiny, insufferable tattle-tale tone.

I mean, is CNN really still claiming to be a news outlet? This is nothing more than partisan political commentary, same as FOX news (had to throw that disclaimer in there so the dolts don’t start screaming wHaT aBoUt FoX NeWs?!?!?)

If someone agrees with these ideas, that’s perfectly fine. People are entitled to an opinion.

But to present these stories as news, and for these outlets to claim they are engaging in journalism, is really just shameful and unfortunate. Especially for the lesser-informed people in this country who think they are being provided a necessary service.

100% this. This is why I’m so hostile towards media. They truly are the enemy of the people. Been that way since the late 80s. It’s not about reporting news. It’s about reporting a narrative.

 

[barfo]

100% this. This is why I’m so hostile towards media. They truly are the enemy of the people. Been that way since the late 80s. It’s not about reporting news. It’s about reporting a narrative.

I see, so they are competition, horning in on your turf?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

I see, so they are competition, horning in on your turf?

barfo

I’m not a journalist. Neither are you. We can express our views.

News agencies are supposed to be unbiased. Calling balls and strikes. Giving equal vetting to anyone or anything they report. They are the ones screaming from bull horns they are honest journalism. That’s so far from the truth.

 

[yankeesince59]

Lol I think it was the first post.

Hey, I gotta confess, I also checked out both of those "orange man" threads.

I'm guessing that they were sort of a joke by @Sly but I'm sure all the mods would love to see us contain our points/views based both of of those threads...but then again, I'm sure that the mods know damn well that we are incapable of restricting our posts/views/comments/replies to just one of those threads while staying out of the other one.

And I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the first offender.

 

[magnifier661]

 

[yankeesince59]

Just my 2 cents...as far as transparency and unbiased factual content, the media is no worse than social media.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I’m not a journalist. Neither are you. We can express our views.

News agencies are supposed to be unbiased. Calling balls and strikes. Giving equal vetting to anyone or anything they report. They are the ones screaming from bull horns they are honest journalism. That’s so far from the truth.

Just my 2 cents...as far as transparency and unbiased factual content, the media is no worse than social media.

I'm on record as saying if we are gonna go down its by this creating total chaos and anarchy.

Where is the truth anymore? No one knows, so they follow who speaks the loudest opinion they agree with.

We have lost the fundamentals of physical labor( when I say we, I mean the general average modern day American 30 and under who knows nothing but gadgetry) and communication and social behavior.

We are all locked up in our homes staring at screens with a disconnect to reality. Its sooo easy to comment on videos, because the emotions and the nerves don't set in as if you were on site at the scene.

Sooo many people with such stern, immovable opinions based on what they watch on youtube and read on facebook with very little credible research and disconnect to the struggles and or tension they are often commenting on.



Its real easy to say fuck your free speech. When you never had to live the life of fighting for it.......


The media is the biggest evil we face.

Following the loudest voice on FB/twitter/etc without any research is the second biggest...

 

[BigGameDamian]

New guidelines are from the best science and the best common sense...LoL BIG BULLSHIT!!

 

[magnifier661]

New guidelines are from the best science and the best common sense...LoL BIG BULLSHIT!!

So Dr. Birx and Fauci aren’t scientists? Fail

 

[Lanny]

Vote for me because of Trump wasn’t how the Dems won back the house during the last midterms. In fact, many of those Democrats that won seats in Trump districts, sold health care, social programs and a narrative they are willing to work with the other side. They promised a policy they didn’t follow through on.

I have the privilege to see internal polling. I will guarantee those voters aren’t very happy right now. I do welcome the Democrats, media and left to keep on with their outrage. I actually hope they keep it up.

How about a credible link?

 

[barfo]

The media is the biggest evil we face.

Right. Well, get rid of it then. You can certainly do it in your own life, even if no one else does.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

I’m not a journalist. Neither are you. We can express our views.

News agencies are supposed to be unbiased. Calling balls and strikes. Giving equal vetting to anyone or anything they report. They are the ones screaming from bull horns they are honest journalism. That’s so far from the truth.

Are they really supposed to be unbiased? I'm not sure that's a reasonable position anymore when we live in a society as divided down party lines as we are today. It's certainly not a good business model for news agencies. Fox News proved that there are big profits in tailoring news content to meet the ideologies of your consumers. CNN and MSNBC took notice and did for the left what Fox had done for the right.

Historically, newspapers had a specific political bent and played to the politics of their readership. I think that there was just a relatively brief period between WWII and Vietnam where journalism schools were really pushing the notion of reporters being unbiased observers. I'm not sure that's realistic in today's political climate. I'd be inclined to really support that position if various media outlets didn't try to push the notion that they are, in fact, still unbiased in their coverage. I guess what I'd like to see is there be an acknowledgement that they have, if not an agenda, at least a political leaning. Do that, make sure that the facts of the news that they report are correct, and be open to legitimate criticism and I think I'd be happy. This constant nattering by Trump and the Republicans about "fake news", and the constant posturing by CNN, the NYT and other left-leaning media that they are the soldiers of unbiased news gets really, really OLD. Everyone has an agenda today. Admit it.

 

[barfo]

I’m not a journalist. Neither are you. We can express our views.

News agencies are supposed to be unbiased. Calling balls and strikes. Giving equal vetting to anyone or anything they report. They are the ones screaming from bull horns they are honest journalism. That’s so far from the truth.

And yet it's so much closer to the truth than the yarns you spin. So I'm gonna chose the media over you, warts and all.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

How about a credible link?

Credible link to what?

 

[magnifier661]

Are they really supposed to be unbiased? I'm not sure that's a reasonable position anymore when we live in a society as divided down party lines as we are today. It's certainly not a good business model for news agencies. Fox News proved that there are big profits in tailoring news content to meet the ideologies of your consumers. CNN and MSNBC took notice and did for the left what Fox had done for the right.

Historically, newspapers had a specific political bent and played to the politics of their readership. I think that there was just a relatively brief period between WWII and Vietnam where journalism schools were really pushing the notion of reporters being unbiased observers. I'm not sure that's realistic in today's political climate. I'd be inclined to really support that position if various media outlets didn't try to push the notion that they are, in fact, still unbiased in their coverage. I guess what I'd like to see is there be an acknowledgement that they have, if not an agenda, at least a political leaning. Do that, make sure that the facts of the news that they report are correct, and be open to legitimate criticism and I think I'd be happy. This constant nattering by Trump and the Republicans about "fake news", and the constant posturing by CNN, the NYT and other left-leaning media that they are the soldiers of unbiased news gets really, really OLD. Everyone has an agenda today. Admit it.

There is nothing wrong with commentaries like Maddow, Hannity and such. It’s when the programming claim unbiased journalism. They are advertising it. That’s reckless.

and yes, all have agendas, but there used to be reporters that put aside their personal ideology to get to the truth. That is not the case since the late 80s

 

[magnifier661]

And yet it's so much closer to the truth than the yarns you spin. So I'm gonna chose the media over you, warts and all.

barfo

It’s your opinion. I gave the links of New York Times, CNN and other agencies you claim have a solid reputation. I guess you maybe right. Pushing their false agendas aren’t very close to truth.

I guess we agree!

 

[barfo]

It’s your opinion. I gave the links of New York Times, CNN and other agencies you claim have a solid reputation.

I claimed nothing about their reputations.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

I claimed nothing about their reputations.

barfo

You said it’s better than what I’m sharing in here. Since you made that statement, me sharing their reporting would mean 1.) You actually endorse my posts or 2.) you are lying with that statement.