OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (8 Viewers)

[riverman]

Given that the incubation period is roughly five days, that result seems a little surprising.

not really, they probably had never been tested before and this virus can travel via host without symptoms...they didn't have to incubate in the classrooms to be infected. They did expose a lot of classmates though so we'll see what comes from it on day 6

 

[e_blazer]

not really, they probably had never been tested before and this virus can travel via host without symptoms...

Sure, that could likely be true, but then there's no relationship between schools and the illness other than being the test site.

I'm not trying to argue that schools aren't going to be a big problem; they are, just that infections detected on the first day of school obviously didn't happen at school

 

[riverman]

Sure, that could likely be true, but then there's no relationship between schools and the illness other than being the test site.

I'm not trying to argue that schools aren't going to be a big problem; they are, just that infections detected on the first day of school obviously didn't happen at school

children congregating would be the issue in my view

 

[THE HCP]

I think we’re all more interested in Mrs. HCP’s test results.

#BAM

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Donald Trump claims veterans in a study which found hydroxy can kill 'were READY TO DIE' as he falsely denies FDA warning not to take it outside hospitals - then makes two cabinet members back him up

• President Donald Trump said veterans who died from the coronavirus while taking hydroxychloroquine were sick people who were 'ready to die'
• He has been defending his taking of hydroxychloroquin to counter any exposure to coronavirus and blasted a study using VA data
• 'There was a false study done, where they gave it to very sick people, extremely sick people, people that were ready to die,' President Trump said
• At a Cabinet meeting, he had officials defend his decision to take the drug
• Trump also claimed academic research showing the dangers of hydroxychloroquine was done by his enemies
• Trump has come under fire after admitting to taking the medication
• Trump blasted Speaker Nancy Pelosi as a 'sick woman' with a lot of 'mental problems' after she called him 'morbidly obese'
• China bashed Trump for touting 'witchcraft' to prevent and threat coronavirus
• Trump revealed Monday he's taken hydroxychloroquine for around two weeks
• White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Trump shared that health information to be 'transparent' with the American people

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ms-veterans-study-hydroxy-kill-READY-DIE.html

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Still pimping HCQ;


Trump just said "People should want to be helping people, not to make political points, it's very sad when they do that."


I shit you not...I can't believe his tongue didn't come off the rollers when he said that.

Again,

Its do a I say not as I do.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[crandc]

"pics or it didn't happen"

barfo

I can try to oblige next time. Is PM OK? Not sure if rest of S2 really wants me to post pics of my cat's barf.

 

[wizenheimer]

My coworker whose respiratory condition essentially closed down our office before SHSH became the norm was basically told what Maris said: "We're pretty sure you have COVID-19, but we're not going to test you because our treatment for you would be no different either way."

he said several things including: "Testing is a political control tool and a deliberate diversion" ....imo that was stupid

 

[lawai'a]

Sure, that could likely be true, but then there's no relationship between schools and the illness other than being the test site.

I'm not trying to argue that schools aren't going to be a big problem; they are, just that infections detected on the first day of school obviously didn't happen at school

it was 70 positive cases after first week back at school

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.me...th-oakland-officer-positive-for-covid-19/amp/


Coronavirus: Fourth Oakland officer positive for COVID-19

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.cnet.com/news/telepresence-teleportation-ava-robotics/?ftag=CAD-03-10aaj8j

Is 'teleportation' the future of remote work?

Countless deals have been signed with a handshake, but what if you didn't actually need to be there? Telepresence may be the future of getting work done

 

[wizenheimer]

https://www.cnet.com/news/telepresence-teleportation-ava-robotics/?ftag=CAD-03-10aaj8j

Is 'teleportation' the future of remote work?

Countless deals have been signed with a handshake, but what if you didn't actually need to be there? Telepresence may be the future of getting work done

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[calvin natt]

I want to punch Don Junior.

 

[CupWizier]

apple doesn't fall far from the tree. All assholes. Where's Melania and her cyberbully group to scold little donnie and send him to bed without dinner. What a loser he is.

 

[CupWizier]

Sure, that could likely be true, but then there's no relationship between schools and the illness other than being the test site.

I'm not trying to argue that schools aren't going to be a big problem; they are, just that infections detected on the first day of school obviously didn't happen at school

But, what it does show us is that there are many more people out there that are infected that we have no record of. That's the scary part and why this thing can flare up again so easily. Despite the idiot in the white house declaring we have made it past the virus, we have a long ways to go and the sooner this guy is out of there the better the country will be for it as he's a dangerous person (and not in a good way) without even really knowing it.

 

[BigGameDamian]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1210926

Justice Department warns California about its coronavirus restrictions on churches

The Justice Department states in a letter that a stay-at-home order doesn't appear to treat churches and other activities the same.

 

[calvin natt]

Cover your ears crandc. But these cuntbags who won’t wear a mask in a Costco need Covid directly injected into their mouths.

 

[Minstrel]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1210926

Justice Department warns California about its coronavirus restrictions on churches

The Justice Department states in a letter that a stay-at-home order doesn't appear to treat churches and other activities the same.

Sounds pretty spurious. Phase 2 involves allowing some retail businesses to open for curbside service. In-person religious service isn't done curbside, so obviously religious congregations aren't allowed yet. It has nothing to do with treating religious activities differently from non-religious activities. Similarly, nail salons can't open during Phase 2, because that also is not done curbside.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[H.C.]

Wait so I'm asking for a friend.

Are the numbers still infallible?
Or has it changed to the possibility that we might have far more infected than we realize.
As well as a far lower mortality rate than we're willing to accept.

Knowledge makes people feel safe.
If the only thing we know about Covid19 is that it's far more dangerous for the elderly/people with health conditions.
Then we're going to be closed for years as people won't feel safe.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Kids with suspected Covid-related syndrome need immediate attention, doctors say


(CNN) Kids who may have multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children, or MIS-C, a troubling complication of Covid-19 infection, need immediate attention and will probably need to be hospitalized, doctors said Tuesday.

Symptoms do not look like the classic symptoms of coronavirus and may mostly include stomach pain and vomiting, along with fever and perhaps a rash, the experts told other doctors during a meeting Tuesday organized by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

It's becoming clear that many of the children with the new syndrome have damage to their hearts and need immediate treatment, they said at the Clinician Outreach and Communication Activity (COCA) briefing. And they believe it's increasingly clear that Covid-19 is involved, even though many of the children test negative for the virus at first and never seemed to have had symptoms of infection.

The syndrome appears to develop two to six weeks after infection with Covid-19 and affects mostly children who were perfectly healthy beforehand. The CDC issued a health alert last week warning pediatricians to be on the lookout, and at least 20 states plus Washington, DC have reported they are investigating possible cases.

"A striking finding here -- alarming -- is that in this group, about half the children already had coronary artery abnormalities," Dr. James Schneider, who heads pediatric critical care at Northwell Health in New York, told the briefing. Because the children were previously healthy, he thinks the abnormalities were caused by MIS-C, possibly as a result of a delayed immune response to the coronavirus.

"Any child at home who has fever, abdominal pain or symptoms such as rash and conjunctivitis should be seen by a pediatrician right away," he advised. "I think we need to have a low threshold for evaluation."

'Alarming' findings

More than half of the 33 children treated for MIS-C at Northwell in April and May had developed some sort of heart dysfunction, Schneider said. "They need good, old-fashioned critical care."

And most of the children had no underlying conditions that might make parents wary. "No definitive underlying conditions predispose children to this," he said.

Infectious disease specialist Dr. Nicholas Rister at Cook Children's Medical Center in Fort Worth, Texas, said he has examined several children with a range of symptoms.

"I feel very terrible -- some patients have said, you know, everything kind of hurts. And then swelling in various points of your body, especially your hands and your feet, and even your mouth," he said at a separate briefing.

"The biggest concern we have right now, especially in kids, is largely stemming from inflammation around the heart," he said. It's one reason doctors at first thought the syndrome was a rare condition known as Kawasaki disease. "And not just the heart but the major vessels around the heart," he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/health/mis-c-coronavirus-children-doctors-immediate/index.html

 

[ehizzy3]

Ouch. This admin twisting words and making things up again

 

[Lanny]

First of all, who cares? They're roughly 60% accurate and the treatment for the virus is identical to the treatment for pretty much any other viral lung infection. Testing is a political control tool and a deliberate diversion, and you are better off avoiding it.

That said, St Charles Hospital and Summit Medical Center here in Beautiful Central Oregon have more tests than they can ever use.

It does matter.
Suppose you found out you had the Covid-19 virus, would you still go to the grocery store? Would you not wear your mask when ordering from a takeout window? Wouldn't you put on gloves when exchanging money? Wouldn't you get your thrice weekly treatments in an isolation room rather than among all the other patients?
Wouldn't you want the medical staff to have on extra protective gear when treating you?
Would you still kiss your wife goodnight or share food off the same plate?
Nope, knowing would allow me to make better, more informed decisions about my daily life.

 

[crandc]

Spokane has not been extremely hard hit but did lose 30 people. So they set up a memorial at city hall, with crosses. A tad problematic since not everyone is Christian, but intent was to honor and remember those lost. Pro Nazi Proud Boys destroyed the memorial at a "protest" against stay at home order.

On another topic I see Maris is now disparaging Corona virus tests as unnecessary and inaccurate. Wait, wait. Didn't Trump say testing was perfect, his word? He added not as perfect as his phone call with president of Ukraine, whose name he can't remember, but still perfect. And anyone who wants a test can get one. Maris isn't saying Trump was wrong, is he?

 

[julius]

Spokane has not been extremely hard hit but did lose 30 people. So they set up a memorial at city hall, with crosses. A tad problematic since not everyone is Christian, but intent was to honor and remember those lost. Pro Nazi Proud Boys destroyed the memorial at a "protest" against stay at home order.

On another topic I see Maris is now disparaging Corona virus tests as unnecessary and inaccurate. Wait, wait. Didn't Trump say testing was perfect, his word? He added not as perfect as his phone call with president of Ukraine, whose name he can't remember, but still perfect. And anyone who wants a test can get one. Maris isn't saying Trump was wrong, is he?

Wind Vanes always change direction when the slightest wind comes up.