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Phatguysrule said:
Your pictures aren't reliable evidence of anything...

UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND Study shows N95 masks near-perfect at blocking escape of airborne COVID-19

Study finds all masks effective, but “duckbill” N95 masks far outperform others, suggests they should be the standard in high-risk settings

COLLEGE PARK, Md. – In a head-to-head comparison of masks worn by people with active COVID-19, the inexpensive “duckbill” N95 came out on top, stopping 98% of COVID-19 particles in the breath of infected people from escaping into the air. Led by researchers from the University of Maryland School of Public Health (SPH), results showed other masks also performed well, blocking at least 70% of viral particles from escaping from the source – an infected person’s exhaled breath.
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Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory. It totally fucks up the narrative......
 
Why should anyone bother to work their ass off getting into medical school, studying medicine, going through internship and residency? All those years! When all they have to do is read Xitter to know more than any doctor.
 
DOWN WITH DOCTORS! UP WITH QUACKS!
DOWN WITH DOCTORS! UP WITH QUACKS!
DOWN WITH DOCTORS! UP WITH QUACKS!
DOWN WITH DOCTORS! UP WITH QUACKS!

barfo
 
Phatguysrule said:
Your pictures aren't reliable evidence of anything...

UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND Study shows N95 masks near-perfect at blocking escape of airborne COVID-19

Study finds all masks effective, but “duckbill” N95 masks far outperform others, suggests they should be the standard in high-risk settings

COLLEGE PARK, Md. – In a head-to-head comparison of masks worn by people with active COVID-19, the inexpensive “duckbill” N95 came out on top, stopping 98% of COVID-19 particles in the breath of infected people from escaping into the air. Led by researchers from the University of Maryland School of Public Health (SPH), results showed other masks also performed well, blocking at least 70% of viral particles from escaping from the source – an infected person’s exhaled breath.
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Those were all published studies. And the study you posted doesn't mean that masks are effective at preventing transmission.

The experiment was conducted by having people breath into a machine, and the masks will redirect the flow of air, but that doesn't mean they're trapping viral particles. They are just getting redirected along the seams of the mask.

Look at this demonstration of smoke being exhaled through various masks. Now imagine that smoke is full of viral particles. It's being redirected somewhat, but still getting into the air. And this is generous because virus particles are much smaller than smoke.




Explain how a mask like that is going to stop a virus particle.
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beast blazer said:
Those were all published studies. And the study you posted doesn't mean that masks are effective at preventing transmission.

The experiment was conducted by having people breath into a machine, and the masks will redirect the flow of air, but that doesn't mean they're trapping viral particles. They are just getting redirected along the seams of the mask.

Look at this demonstration of smoke being exhaled through various masks. Now imagine that smoke is full of viral particles. It's being redirected somewhat, but still getting into the air. And this is generous because virus particles are much smaller than smoke.




Explain how a mask like that is going to stop a virus particle.
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Which is why both parties wearing masks makes such a big difference
 
Phatguysrule said:
Which is why both parties wearing masks makes such a big difference
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GoZers said:
The masks also made it less likely that people would touch something and touch their mouths and noses which is a great way to spread many illnesses. Unless you disagree with that science as well.
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Do you like to go around licking things and putting them in your mouth like a toddler? The change of surface transmission was less than 1 in 10k btw. It didn't have much impact.
 
beast blazer said:
Do you like to go around licking things and putting them in your mouth like a toddler? The change of surface transmission was less than 1 in 10k btw. It didn't have much impact.
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I’m stating facts. You’re getting emotional. So please go fuck your feelings.
 
beast blazer said:
Do you like to go around licking things and putting them in your mouth like a toddler? The change of surface transmission was less than 1 in 10k btw. It didn't have much impact.
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So you are STILL fighting this? After ALL this time? What the fuck bro?
A strange battle to partake in if you ask me. You honestly don’t believe all these people died from a virus? You truly believe this shit was all fake? This is baffling that you are walking around amongst us with this type of thinking. Holy Shit!
 
I asked your nutjob farmer friend who is from Montana or some other god forsaken wasteland of a state who things similar to you if he ever lost anybody from COVID…..because that would definitely change the way you view it and he never answered me. I lost 10 people, very close friends and family members. That shit was/is real. I don’t know why I even replied…..you’ll come back with some horse shit. Just so frustrating. I’m quite sure everyone in your klan go though it OK, so it just wasn’t REAL enough for you?
 
THE HCP said:
So you are STILL fighting this? After ALL this time? What the fuck bro?
A strange battle to partake in if you ask me. You honestly don’t believe all these people died from a virus? You truly believe this shit was all fake? This is baffling that you are walking around amongst us with this type of thinking. Holy Shit!
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New data keeps coming out that confirms what I've been saying all of this time. And that fact that folks like you still don't grasp it is a problem. The more people that realize this, the harder it will be for them to carry out the con again.
 
beast blazer said:
New data keeps coming out that confirms what I've been saying all of this time. And that fact that folks like you still don't grasp it is a problem. The more people that realize this, the harder it will be for them to carry out the con again.
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So you are saying it all was a “con”? So you DIDN’T have anybody close to you die?
 
THE HCP said:
So you are saying it all was a “con”? So you DIDN’T have anybody close to you die?
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when people refuse to wear masks during a pandemic there's a good chance they breath on somebody close to them or cough or sneeze...probably a senior citizen in a checkout line that could have died ...that's a remote possibility. It's good to keep distance from unmasked whack jobs during a pandemic...I saw one go into a rage at a clerk in Bimart during the pandemic that asked him to wear a mask. Poor old gal at the checkout counter was really shook up by the asshole ..as if some conspiracy theory boogie men were running a con on the entire globe and every continent at the same time for a profit! Yup...whack jobs gonna whack. Really sorry you lost that many folks bro...that sucks.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
That - and getting information from multiple sources.

I'm always skeptical when someone says 'trust me' because I'm a professional. Especially when there are other professionals who spend time and can explain WHY the common narrative is incorrect.

Simple example from not too far in the past is smoking... Most of the 'professionals' in the 30/40's thought smoking was good for you - some doctors even prescribed it.


First part of the statement is very true... but it effects people at ALL levels of society.
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Professional just means you get a paycheck for what you do. where you need to trust the science is where it's been proven to work successfully so you can filter out the paycheck professionals from the actual professionals that have done something in the field.choices. I've tried bad dentists before but when I found a good one that one I really trust I stuck with her. I trust both my medical teams and they've been incredible in fixing my heart and keeping me healthy. Same with finding a good auto mechanic.
 
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THE HCP said:
So you are STILL fighting this? After ALL this time? What the fuck bro?
A strange battle to partake in if you ask me.
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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it...

You honestly don’t believe all these people died from a virus? You truly believe this shit was all fake? This is baffling that you are walking around amongst us with this type of thinking. Holy Shit!
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Almost everyone acknowledges that there was/is a virus going around. The virus killed a lot of people.

But the number of deaths were exacerbated because of poor public health leadership.

Instead of following the scientific process and allowing Doctors to communicate and the freedom to 'practice' medicine to find out what works, authorities shut down the feedback loop and censored anyone tried to have an open dialogue.

At this point -> it's important that we look back and actually learn from what happened. There were a lot of things that were good... but there was a hell of a lot of stuff that was wrong & incorrect.
 
riverman said:
Professional just means you get a paycheck for what you do. where you need to trust the science is where it's been proven to work successfully so you can filter out the paycheck professionals from the actual professionals that have done something in the field.choices. I've tried bad dentists before but when I found a good one that one I really trust I stuck with her. I trust both my medical teams and they've been incredible in fixing my heart and keeping me healthy. Same with finding a good auto mechanic.
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Agreed here.

Finding trusted professionals is hard but important.

But I still never just take their word for it. I want to see the image of my teeth showing where the cavity is.
I want to see the crack in the CV joint or where the tires are wearing thin before replacing them.

But that's just me...
 
GoZers said:
The masks also made it less likely that people would touch something and touch their mouths and noses which is a great way to spread many illnesses. Unless you disagree with that science as well.
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I could MAYBE buy this argument if people were wearing masks properly & replaced them with a new mask every time they took it off.

The vast majority of people were wearing the same mask more than 2 days in a row... meaning both the inside and outside of the mask were most likely compromised.

For MOST people, wearing the masks had negligible benefit.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
For MOST people, wearing the masks had negligible benefit.
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Not in the countries that successfully contained the spread of COVID and in the case of Taiwan...both SARS in 2003 and COVID at it's outbreak...23 million people...single digit deaths in the case of COVID most SARS deaths were doctors and nurses and elderly..it took longer to contain than COVID...I think they had 7 COVID deaths at the outbreak ..I'm not sure of the exact number but it was single digits..I think New Zealand had 1 at the outbreak....both had mask mandates...N95 masks for COVID are designed to only be used twice...the outside out for protecting from incoming particulates and the inside out if you are symptomatic to keep them from spreading outwards. Most people don't even know that simple fact...masks that don't work are cloth bandanas or painters one ply face masks. All this info was distributed early on if not for a huge anti mask movement by MAGA enthusiasts in the US. We ranked really poorly in responding to the pandemic globally. All because of stubborn partisan bs in my view.
 
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CJ_is_Gone said:
For MOST people, wearing the masks had negligible benefit.
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I've heard this said, but not seen any evidence to actually support the claim. All reliable evidence that I have seen shows that the states with mask mandates had significantly lower death rates from COVID than those which did not.
 
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Who got censored? All kinds of fake information, quack remedies, unsafe instructions nonstop.
If by censorship you mean knowledgeable people would not promote fake cures, that's not censorship, it's being responsible.
 
THE HCP said:
Did you lose anybody close to you to COVID?
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No, and I'm sorry that you did, but the truth is that they'd very likely have survived if Fauci hadn't suppressed early treatment protocols that some doctors were using with great success.

Those doctors were instead attacked, and the media weaponized, so that people like you won't see the real enemy.
 
beast blazer said:
No, and I'm sorry that you did, but the truth is that they'd very likely have survived if Fauci hadn't suppressed early treatment protocols that some doctors were using with great success.

Those doctors were instead attacked, and the media weaponized, so that people like you won't see the real enemy.
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I have a question; When did your posts turn into nut bars?
 
beast blazer said:
No, and I'm sorry that you did, but the truth is that they'd very likely have survived if Fauci hadn't suppressed early treatment protocols that some doctors were using with great success.

Those doctors were instead attacked, and the media weaponized, so that people like you won't see the real enemy.
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Every family member and close friend who died from COVID….not a single one was vaccinated. Not sure what to take from that. Losing people would change your views on this I promise you.
 
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