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RamblinRod

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What makes our team better, Chris Paul without Nic Batum or Tony Parker with Nic Batum?
 
If we can get him on an extension, I'd just as soon have TP and Nic. I know CP3 is better than TP. Just would prefer to see Batum stay, so I'd take a downgrade at PG to keep him.
 
RR7 said:
If we can get him on an extension, I'd just as soon have TP and Nic. I know CP3 is better than TP. Just would prefer to see Batum stay, so I'd take a downgrade at PG to keep him.
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This is a situation where you can't lose. CP is good enough to let you forget about Batum. Parker is a PG that would fit into the system that we have and would be a perfect compliment to Batum. Wither way you can't lose. If it came down to management HAVING to choose between wither player I wouldn't care on the choice, I would be happy regardless.
 
Batum is nice, but in reality, he is nothing but a role player.


CP3 is the best PG in the league. You simply make that deal
 
Mediocre Man said:
Batum is nice, but in reality, he is nothing but a role player.


CP3 is the best PG in the league. You simply make that deal
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What if we could get CP3 AND Peja? We know Peja is that much better than Batum ;)
 
Mediocre Man said:
Batum is nice, but in reality, he is nothing but a role player.


CP3 is the best PG in the league. You simply make that deal
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Batman has potential to be more than a role player (the #4 pick was offered for him). This kid is already a role player and loaded with potential. But I agree, Paul isn't about potential, he is a proven NBA star and top 3 PG in the league . . . you make the trade for Paul.
 
Paul. Pretty easily.

I like Batum and would really like to see Parker on our team, but... Chris Paul would be incredible.

Ed O.
 
Is this really a question? CP3.

Batum is so overrated on this forum it's tough to take some folks seriously.
 
Ed O said:
Paul. Pretty easily.

I like Batum and would really like to see Parker on our team, but... Chris Paul would be incredible.

Ed O.
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Bang on.

I'd give up Batum in 1 second to get CP.

Paul, Oden (maybe) LMA and Roy. Oh dear oh dear.

It almost hurts to think about.
 
It seems that too many posters here have forgotten the superstars are what win in this league. NOT a bunch of good players. Batum and TP are good players. CP3 is a GREAT player and a superstar. Without a doubt you take CP3 over Batum and TP. It isn't close, and I'm a HUGE Batum fan.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Batum is nice, but in reality, he is nothing but a role player.


CP3 is the best PG in the league. You simply make that deal
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Agreed.

You can't replace a truly great player with two pretty good players, which is all Tony Parker and Nicolas Batum are at this point. Batum may get there, but I'd rather get CP3 now than have to wait for that development.
 
Fair enough. Apparently I have over valued Batum. I could go either way really, there's no question Paul is better than Parker. I just thought Batum would make the difference on the talent gap. It would leave a serious void at the 3, not sure Matthews is a starter at that position. It's a problem I'd be willing to have though.
 
LA has one SUPERSTAR on their roster. And a bunch of good players in a good system. Superstars win in this league. Unless it's stars that win. Unless it's systems that win. Unless it's TEAMS that win. Etc. There's more than 1 way to win in the league.
 
RR7 said:
LA has one SUPERSTAR on their roster. And a bunch of good players in a good system. Superstars win in this league. Unless it's stars that win. Unless it's systems that win. Unless it's TEAMS that win. Etc. There's more than 1 way to win in the league.
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As much as I hate to admit it, Pau Gasol is more than a "good" player. He has proved to be a top PF in this league, and one of the leagues best players.
 
Mediocre Man said:
As much as I hate to admit it, Pau Gasol is more than a "good" player. He has proved to be a top PF in this league, and one of the leagues best players.
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gotta agree there. I used to have LMA and Gasol almost on the same level.. Not sure if it was LMA's plateu or Pau's Play that widened that gap for me, but I sure was wrong. Pau is a top level PF right now.
 
Mediocre Man said:
As much as I hate to admit it, Pau Gasol is more than a "good" player. He has proved to be a top PF in this league, and one of the leagues best players.
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Sorry, yeah, I don't mean to downgrade Pau at all. But Parker is more than just a "good" player as well, has proven to be a top PG in the league, a Finals MVP and championship experience.
 
RR7 said:
LA has one SUPERSTAR on their roster. And a bunch of good players in a good system. Superstars win in this league. Unless it's stars that win. Unless it's systems that win. Unless it's TEAMS that win. Etc. There's more than 1 way to win in the league.
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I think it comes down to how one defines "superstar". If you define "superstar" as one of the top 3 players in the league at his position, I think we would find that almost all of the titles in the last couple decades have been won by a team with 2 superstars.
 
<-=*PdX*=-> said:
This is a situation where you can't lose. CP is good enough to let you forget about Batum. Parker is a PG that would fit into the system that we have and would be a perfect compliment to Batum. Wither way you can't lose. If it came down to management HAVING to choose between wither player I wouldn't care on the choice, I would be happy regardless.
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Agreed 100%.
 
blazerboy30 said:
I think it comes down to how one defines "superstar". If you define "superstar" as one of the top 3 players in the league at his position, I think we would find that almost all of the titles in the last couple decades have been won by a team with 2 superstars.
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Pau seems to be borderline there. And most have said we'd need a healthy Oden to win anyways. If healthy, he's likely top 3 at his position, and Roy. So we'd have our two.

Also I'd add that at the time Boston won there title, I don't know if Pierece or Allen would be considered top 3 at their position. Maybe Garnett.
 
This is a talk worthy conversation. Obviously this is not going to be as simple as that. There will be other factors involved such as who else are we losing other than Batum to get CP3 and do we have to take on Okafor?? same is true for the Tony Parker scenario. We're keeping Batum, but who do we send out? are we taking in a bad contract too along with Eva Longoria (I mean Tony Parker)??

But I agree with OddEnormous, CP3, Roy, SF, Aldridge, Oden. Thinking about it makes me salivate LoL
 
RR7 said:
Pau seems to be borderline there.
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As much as I hate to admit it, he was playing some great basketball. I'm not sure which PF's I would take over him this last year.

RR7 said:
And most have said we'd need a healthy Oden to win anyways. If healthy, he's likely top 3 at his position, and Roy. So we'd have our two.
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I hope you're right about Oden. I think he has the potential, I just hope he reaches his potential to be that superstar. Roy is right there on the border of top 3. I hope he can stay there (or improve, but that is unlikely). Adding CP3 guarantees us at least one superstar in exchange for a couple good players. I think you have to take that opporunity.

RR7 said:
Also I'd add that at the time Boston won there title, I don't know if Pierece or Allen would be considered top 3 at their position. Maybe Garnett.
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I would say Pierce and Garnett qualified at the time they won their title. Not anymore.
 
I'd reluctantly give up LMA AND Batum for CP3, because we'd have a Big Three worthy of taking on anyone. I'm not nearly as enamored of Parker's game.
 
Of course CP3 would be fantastic get...but getting Parker w\o having to give up Batum? I would be very happy with that as well.....
 
I'd rather we asked, which is better: CP3 and Batum or Tony Parker and LMA?

Not that I think New Orleans would go for LMA and his contract, but it's certainly a question I enjoy answering a lot more.
 
CP3 + Matthews > Parker + Batum

No question. Chris Paul is an MVP-caliber player every year.
 
Minstrel said:
I'd rather we asked, which is better: CP3 and Batum or Tony Parker and LMA?

Not that I think New Orleans would go for LMA and his contract, but it's certainly a question I enjoy answering a lot more.
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lol this is truth!
 
Right then, this thread is silly. Enough of that! I say, stop that!

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We all know either Parker or CP3 would be a huge coup. No need to debate which is more of a benefit to the team.
 
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