Dame asks for trade (And there it is) (3 Viewers)

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The thing is if Joe would have picked to go young & job security route at the first of last year, we could have been watching Wemby in a blazer uni.
 
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maxiep said:
The problem is, we are NBA Siberia.
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THE HCP said:
Hold on, you claim the hoopsjok guy "has a source"? C'Mon man.....Really? Please.
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Yes, he does. Dude could break a trade a month in advance and you still would act like this since you have animosity in your heart. You're obsessed with us and I see you constantly posting about us. Let it go.
 
If they weren't at least in part trying to build around Dame, why would they have wasted a 1st round pick on possibly the worst rebounding PF in the league? Because he was Dame's friend and Dame wanted him here. Probably at least also in part as to why they gave Nurk a full 4 year extension. They very well may have tried to trade #5 this year like they tried to trade the Sharpe pick last year....but the cost for those trades was franchise malpractice so they didn't last year and when the #5 pick became the #3 pick, it change the value to the team as well as what they wanted for it.

Could they have done more? Sure. Did Cronin overpromise or at the very least, underestimate what his assets would net? Very likely. But it has been reported in multiple placed that the cost for OG last year would have been Sharpe, Hart, Little and a future 1st. In the end, that would have been 3 1st round picks and Little for OG. No way in hell do you make that deal. So yes, Cronin can be blamed for not making that deal, but it seems like it was absolutely the right thing to do.
 
BonesJones said:
Yes, he does. Dude could break a trade a month in advance and you still would act like this since you have animosity in your heart. You're obsessed with us and I see you constantly posting about us. Let it go.
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I'll vouch for @hoopsjock as well. There are people here who have or have had very good sources. Because they don't come out with specific details or name sources doesn't mean they don't have them. And it would be the end of any info from that source if they did. I respect what @hoopsjock or @Mediocre Man share when they can.
 
TBpup said:
I'll vouch for @hoopsjock as well. There are people here who have or have had very good sources. Because they don't come out with specific details or name sources doesn't mean they don't have them. And it would be the end of any info from that source if they did. I respect what @hoopsjock or @Mediocre Man share when they can.
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I've heard enough in private to know Eric has intel. And I also know he's not the type of guy to make stuff up and lie. He just shares what he hears, and takes the heat on the chin. I think it bothers me more than it bothers him.
 
Being there when Dame beat the Rockets was honestly one of the best moments in my life.

That was wild… I was 11 in 2000, and watched a lot of rough years of basketball. To be there when we made it out of the first round for the first time in over a decade.

Idk how much I trust people who would just throw Dame under the bus. I’m talking to you, Sketchy McSketcherson.
 
Chris Craig said:
But, if it works, the rest of the league will see it as a power move. It will set a precedent. Agents of other stars will pull the same shit, have their client demand a trade, give the preferred destination, then call other teams interested, and tell them not to trade for him because he won't play. Where does it end?
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They already have and Dame won't be the last.
 
wizenheimer said:
geeeeezuzzz....the internet is pretty damn scary sometimes
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It's conflating the issue. Again, many of us have ZERO problem with Dame asking out. That's okay. It didn't work. He has given it more than enough time. He's earned the right to ask for a trade.

It's demanding we send him to ONE team--a team that does not have the pieces to offer even remotely fair value for him--that rubs many the wrong way.

Windhorst, @wizenheimer's source, and those of us disappointed in Dame can all be right. We are not contradictory.
 
BigGameDamian said:
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I think we are going to get those 4 1sts regardless of who trades for him. Miami is going to eventually cave in. Their record needs to be better to avoid all this play-in stuff.

They’re going to have to work it out with OKC for us to get 24/28/30 unprotected and 29 swap unprotected. Jovic is a must. Lowry’s contract + the best offer they can find for Herro. And they’ll have to take Nurk’s contract.

Apparently, Woj says there are teams that “would surrender a good 1st round pick to the Blazers—maybe something more” to land Herro. Herro needs to land a good 1st, a young player (preferably PF/C), and an expiring. I would take an additional 1st to take on a contract like Ben’s. Let’s just say Herro for best of their 3 29 1sts + DFS, ONeale, Clowney.

I wonder if we could swing Lowry + maybe a 2nd for Brogdon. I say some advocating for us to get him. He’s injuried right now right? But he’d be a great third guard when we trade Ant.
 
BankTeller said:
Apparently, Woj says there are teams that “would surrender a good 1st round pick to the Blazers—maybe something more” to land Herro. Herro needs to land a good 1st, a young player (preferably PF/C), and an expiring. I would take an additional 1st to take on a contract like Ben’s. Let’s just say Herro for best of their 3 29 1sts + DFS, ONeale, Clowney.
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That is a little too much for Herro IMO

They seem to love O'Neale so I think he is off the table. (Which is fine with me)
They would be crazy to include Clowney or any young player.

1 first-round pick and matching salaries are all we are going to get from Brooklyn unless they are desperate to get rid of Simmons. Then and only then would we get 2 first-rounders from Brooklyn, plus what we can get from Miami. I am ok with Simmons, Jovic, JJjr, and 3 first-round picks. (Yes 4 would be better, but I would be ok with 3...assuming Simmons is healthy)
 
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Would Toronto say no?

If it’s certain we get package of Jovic, Lowry’s last $30m, plus 3 1sts and a pick swap in 2029 with Herro for Dame and Nurk, I’ll take it. I would take 2 2nds for taking on Robinson’s 3 years.

The team that wants Herro will make a huge difference. The Nets have been one team I’ve heard that wants Herro. If the Raptors are interested, I think we could try to get Scottie by giving them their backcourt of the future. Scottie and a top 10 protected 1st + expirings for Herro and Ant, would they do it? Ant, Herro, OG, Siakam, and Poeltl could make some noise come playoffs, or Raptors could trade Siakam at the deadline and re-sign OG and look for their next PF.

I would try to trade Lowry for Brogdon’s remaining 2 years. I would also trade Robinson + 2 future 2nds to the Hawks for Capela.

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So next season’s roster:
Scoot(34)/Brogdon(14)/Mays
Shae(26)/Thybulle(14)/Brogdon(8)
Barnes(22)/Kris(20)/Sharpe(6)/Rupert
Grant(32)/Barnes(10)/Walker(6)
Capela(26)/Boucher(12)/Badji(10)
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With a decision to extend Barnes next summer. Capela and Boucher become expirings. Thad expires. Grant could also be gone. We also should have a lotto pick next summer.

This would also be our available picks (CHI 1st and 2 ATL 2nds pending):
2024 1st
2024 unprotected MIA 1st
2024 ATL 2nd
2024 MIN or CHA 2nd
2025 1st
2025 ATL 2nd
2026 1st
2026 1-10 protected TOR 1st
2026 MEM 2nd
2027 1st
2028 1st
2028 unprotected MIA 1st
2028 2nd
2028 GSW 2nd
2029 1st
2029 POR/MIA swap 1st
2029 MIA 2nd
2030 1st
2030 unprotected MIA 1st
2030 MIA 2nd

I’m rocking with this squad.
 

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Pinwheel1 said:
That is a little too much for Herro IMO

They seem to love O'Neale so I think he is off the table. (Which is fine with me)
They would be crazy to include Clowney or any young player.

1 first-round pick and matching salaries are all we are going to get from Brooklyn unless they are desperate to get rid of Simmons. Then and only then would we get 2 first-rounders from Brooklyn, plus what we can get from Miami. I am ok with Simmons, Jovic, JJjr, and 3 first-round picks. (Yes 4 would be better, but I would be ok with 3...assuming Simmons is healthy)
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I tend to agree. I have thought the idea Brookly would give up a first for Herro is reality. But a 1st for Herro and another 1st for dumping Simmons always seemed like a real stretch from the Net's POV. Maybe a swap and a 2nd or two, but probably not a 1st

I'm also about 83% convinced the Blazers don't want this to drag on and on and unless Dame climbs down off of his 'Miami-or-bust' ledge, I'd think the offers right now are about as good as it's going to be. The clock is ticking and teams that may be willing to be the 3rd or 4th teams in a big trade right now, could commit to other opportunities and take themselves out of the mix
 
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Would Toronto say no?

If it’s certain we get package of Jovic, Lowry’s last $30m, plus 3 1sts and a pick swap in 2029 with Herro for Dame and Nurk, I’ll take it. I would take 2 2nds for taking on Robinson’s 3 years.

The team that wants Herro will make a huge difference. The Nets have been one team I’ve heard that wants Herro. If the Raptors are interested, I think we could try to get Scottie by giving them their backcourt of the future. Scottie and a top 10 protected 1st + expirings for Herro and Ant, would they do it? Ant, Herro, OG, Siakam, and Poeltl could make some noise come playoffs, or Raptors could trade Siakam at the deadline and re-sign OG and look for their next PF.

I would try to trade Lowry for Brogdon’s remaining 2 years. I would also trade Robinson + 2 future 2nds to the Hawks for Capela.

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So next season’s roster:
Scoot(34)/Brogdon(14)/Mays
Shae(26)/Thybulle(14)/Brogdon(8)
Barnes(22)/Kris(20)/Sharpe(6)/Rupert
Grant(32)/Barnes(10)/Walker(6)
Capela(26)/Boucher(12)/Badji(10)
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With a decision to extend Barnes next summer. Capela and Boucher become expirings. Thad expires. Grant could also be gone. We also should have a lotto pick next summer.

This would also be our available picks (CHI 1st and 2 ATL 2nds pending):
2024 1st
2024 unprotected MIA 1st
2024 ATL 2nd
2024 MIN or CHA 2nd
2025 1st
2025 ATL 2nd
2026 1st
2026 1-10 protected TOR 1st
2026 MEM 2nd
2027 1st
2028 1st
2028 unprotected MIA 1st
2028 2nd
2028 GSW 2nd
2029 1st
2029 POR/MIA swap 1st
2029 MIA 2nd
2030 1st
2030 unprotected MIA 1st
2030 MIA 2nd

I’m rocking with this squad.
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Ujiri wouldn’t trade OG for that and he values OG a lot less than he values Barnes.
 
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