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RonBrewer said:
It's pretty much been confirmed that Pascal vetoed a trade to Portland near draft date so i'm sure we tried
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IIRC, it wasn't Siakam vetoing a trade, it was him saying he wasn't going to sign an extension or commit to re-signing....with an team. Blazers weren't going to pay a steep price for a 1 year rental

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as for "Jaylen Brown for Dame" rumors heating up...didn't he just sign a super-max extension? meaning he can't be traded for a year?
 
RonBrewer said:
Does he need one to say "I won't resign, nor do i want to play for Portland" Come on now
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the "Pascal doesn't want to play for Portland" makes more sense. Did you see what the Raptors did to the Blazers last year?

BEATDOWNS, unreal trashings. Every star player can see Portland is a lost cause and needs a full rebuild. But that doesn't change PR rumors that Cronin was trying his very best to make the Blazers better around Lillard.

Jerami Grant, Cronin's super duper move. Did anyone talk to Pistons fans after the trade? Ask someone in Detroit if Jerami has been getting benched by the GM in the final weeks of tank ball. There's starting players in the league that are in it for the bag and don't care about competing for playoff spots. Easy money. The Blazers have 3 tanking starters, Grant, Simons, Nurkic. I figured Lillard was in on the ruse too, but obviously things have changed.
 
Whyachi said:
Jody won't trade Dame's supermax contract for another supermax contract, unless it's expiring.

Portland drove Lillard over the edge by surrounding him with a Summer League team in the dwindling years of his prime, I think with the intent of dumping him on a poopy team for extra bonus picks.

Call me a conspiracy hack, but i think some weird stuff went down when Cronin had talks with Dame & his Agent. Maybe a package to send Lillard to lowly Detroit was brought up? Imagine how long that conversation lasted? Something made Dame spaz out and go public with "Miami Only".

Yes the Blazers own Lillard's contract and can send him wherever they want. I understand the Blazers have all the power and leverage over the players that they sign. But the Pistons?? Man... that's a death sentence for a healthy All-Star iconic NBA player fresh off the best in-game performances of his career.
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Maybe there is something I don't understand here. This looks like a conversation with yourself. It appears that you completely made up a rumor that Cronin tried to trade Lillard to Detroit and then used that as a basis to start criticizing Cronin?
 
RonBrewer said:
Brown can't even be traded now, can he?
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Correct... though when the tweet was made, he could have been.

The bigger point is this guy threw a bunch of crap at the wall, and when some of it stuck, people thought he was an insider.
 
Did you even read the date on the J. Brown post says JULY --- I say people on this forum need to learn to read perfect example on how I am right. --

Also the Blazers prolly could have had Brown for 3 and Ant but the Blazers chose Scoot over Brown. I am not saying they made the right or wrong choice but it should noted this was the rumor.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Maybe there is something I don't understand here. This looks like a conversation with yourself. It appears that you completely made up a rumor that Cronin tried to trade Lillard to Detroit and then used that as a basis to start criticizing Cronin?
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hey, if everyone else gets to make stuff up, why can't I throw some junk out there?

And if Blazer fans keep giving Cronin free passes for making dumb decisions, then the Blazers will always be bad.
 
Whyachi said:
hey, if everyone else gets to make stuff up, why can't I throw some junk out there?

And if Blazer fans keep giving Cronin free passes for making dumb decisions, then the Blazers will always be bad.
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I don't think we have any control over the situation. It is annoying that just because Joe isn't an unapologetic pompous asshole a lot of fans give him pass after pass but it doesn't have an effect on if he continues to be GM or how he manages the team.
 
Whyachi said:
hey, if everyone else gets to make stuff up, why can't I throw some junk out there?

And if Blazer fans keep giving Cronin free passes for making dumb decisions, then the Blazers will always be bad.
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Sharpe and Scoot were good decisions. CJ was a good decision.

Even the Clippers trade seems fine. None of the guys we sent out were worth anything of value, nor have they brought starting level production for their teams.

Joe has been doing a solid job.

Only negative is Josh Hart, but he wasn't going to stay, so getting a first out of him was solid.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Even the Clippers trade seems fine. None of the guys we sent out were worth anything of value, nor have they brought starting level production for their teams.
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Norman Powell averaged:
17pts 48% FG, 40% 3pt
yes off the Clippers bench... but that's straight cheating to say it's not "starter level production".

Let's check the player Cronin got for Norman Powell:
Keon Johnson stats off the bench
4 pts, 37% FG, 34% 3pt

hmmm
17 seems like a bigger number then 4
 
Whyachi said:
Norman Powell averaged:
17pts 48% FG, 40% 3pt
yes off the Clippers bench... but that's straight cheating to say it's not "starter level production".

Let's check the player Cronin got for Norman Powell:
Keon Johnson stats off the bench
4 pts, 37% FG, 34% 3pt

hmmm
17 seems like a bigger number then 4
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reportedly, the Clippers have been shopping him for months but can't find any takers. Maybe they aren't trying very hard. Or maybe there isn't much of a market for a 30 year old 6'3 SG with no PG skills who plays crappy defense
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Maybe there is something I don't understand here. This looks like a conversation with yourself. It appears that you completely made up a rumor that Cronin tried to trade Lillard to Detroit and then used that as a basis to start criticizing Cronin?
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if i went on Twitter and sprayed this garbage, that's a fake Rumor. I'm in a Blazer chat room on a Dame trade thread, responding to the common question of what may have happened in the meeting between Lillard, his Agent & Cronin. Something caused Lillard to go public with "Miami Only".

I think there's more to it then Dame being the proposed dirty rotten scoundrel. Getting shipped from one tanker to another may have set Dame off.

Or... Lillard is just getting his player/GM on, and knew Miami was one of the few playoff teams with enough assets to make a halfway decent offer?
 
Whyachi said:
Norman Powell averaged:
17pts 48% FG, 40% 3pt
yes off the Clippers bench... but that's straight cheating to say it's not "starter level production".

Let's check the player Cronin got for Norman Powell:
Keon Johnson stats off the bench
4 pts, 37% FG, 34% 3pt

hmmm
17 seems like a bigger number then 4
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What position was Powell playing for LAC? I seriously do not know. In Portland he was a ridiculous 6'3 sf.
 
wizenheimer said:
reportedly, the Clippers have been shopping him for months but can't find any takers. Maybe they aren't trying very hard. Or maybe there isn't much of a market for a 30 year old 6'3 SG with no PG skills who plays crappy defense
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Clippers would totally suck without Norm
I don't believe a word coming out of LAC
 
Whyachi said:
Norman Powell averaged:
17pts 48% FG, 40% 3pt
yes off the Clippers bench... but that's straight cheating to say it's not "starter level production".

Let's check the player Cronin got for Norman Powell:
Keon Johnson stats off the bench
4 pts, 37% FG, 34% 3pt

hmmm
17 seems like a bigger number then 4
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Why's he coming off the bench? Let me know when he's starting or he's traded for a starter straight up.

He was dealt because he wasn't good enough to be here at that salary taking minutes that could be going to younger players with starting potential. Like Simons and Sharpe.

I'm glad we don't have a GM who falls for the sunk cost fallacy.
 
Whyachi said:
you're correct, we got a GM that makes the Blazers fall to the bottom of the NBA.
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His moves thus far look pretty solid. After Olshey there wasn't much of a path to winning... (the way Dame wants to, and especially now that Dame is asking out)

If a Jimmy Butler situation had become an option maybe it would have been possible to thread the needle... maybe it still is...

But Cronin has been alright.
 
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Strenuus said:
Are we just gonna stay there? Is it all over? This sounds like a conclusion based on a not-yet-done tenure. Odd.
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teams get stuck in tank mode. It does happen. I'm basing pessimism off bad coaching, a GM that lies to fans, and a local media that pushes bad Blazer basketball as being better then what we watch.
 
Whyachi said:
teams get stuck in tank mode. It does happen. I'm basing pessimism off bad coaching, a GM that lies to fans, and a local media that pushes bad Blazer basketball as being better then what we watch.
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Pessimistic is a bit different in that theres hope albeit faint, it read like a conclusion. That's all I was saying.
 
Anyone here go to his album drop last night in Portland?...not much news about it on the net this morning..I wondered if he got heckled or if he had a packed house full of fans
 
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