Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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Natebishop3 said:
Anyone else feel like we're just getting dick teased with all these rumors about the Raptors, only to have him dealt to Miami for the same old shit?
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there's Bulls rumors now, the Sixers and Boston ideas never left the table. Suns, Knicks, Laker weirdos get in on the action. Dubs, Thunder, Garland from Cleveland. I think I saw an Orlando podcast talking about Lillard.

The rumor mill is grinding. Glad to see other fanbases talking about adding Damian and winning games. Lillard is a very talented and popular player.

Lillard is not old and fat, hurt all the time and too expensive. Somebody in mainstream media (Woj) put a Karl Anthony Towns label on Damian Lillard, and has been running it 24/7 all summer. It's not working, many other teams are interested in adding Damian.
 
Whyachi said:
there's Bulls rumors now, the Sixers and Boston ideas never left the table. Suns, Knicks, Laker weirdos get in on the action. Dubs, Thunder, Garland from Cleveland. I think I saw an Orlando podcast talking about Lillard.

The rumor mill is grinding. Glad to see other fanbases talking about adding Damian and winning games. Lillard is a very talented and popular player.

Lillard is not old and fat hurt all the time and too expensive. Somebody in mainstream media (Woj) put a Karl Anthony Towns label on Damian Lillard, and has been running it 24/7 all summer. It's not working, many other teams are interested in adding Damian.
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i'm not sure why boston or philly rumors have any merit. unless the spurs feel like dropping 3 picks on us for maxey (and morey is posturing that he doesnt want to add picks to maxey/'maxey is untouchable!'), both of those teams' packages don't even stack up with miami's mid offer.
 
Whyachi said:
there's Bulls rumors now, the Sixers and Boston ideas never left the table. Suns, Knicks, Laker weirdos get in on the action. Dubs, Thunder, Garland from Cleveland. I think I saw an Orlando podcast talking about Lillard.

The rumor mill is grinding. Glad to see other fanbases talking about adding Damian and winning games. Lillard is a very talented and popular player.

Lillard is not old and fat, hurt all the time and too expensive. Somebody in mainstream media (Woj) put a Karl Anthony Towns label on Damian Lillard, and has been running it 24/7 all summer. It's not working, many other teams are interested in adding Damian.
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That's why Lillard probably needs to start the season with the Blazers.
1) He'll show he's still playing at a career-high level
2) Some teams will not live up to expectations, and expectations are as high for the whole league as ever
3) Many newly-signed free agents can be traded starting December 15th (something like 75 players)

It's the way people are. If they don't think they need something now, they wait.
When they find out they're not as good as hoped, and Damian Lillard is available and lighting it up with the Trail Blazers, some GMs will go from not motivated to motivated to inquire about Lillard.
 
Samuel said:
i'm not sure why boston or philly rumors have any merit. unless the spurs feel like dropping 3 picks on us for maxey (and morey is posturing that he doesnt want to add picks to maxey/'maxey is untouchable!'), both of those teams' packages don't even stack up with miami's mid offer.
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BonesJones drew up a very good 29 squad list of team strategy and trade assets available. We can grumble all day about not getting an amazing trade return for Lillard, but there's 3 important things to look at:

A) there's not a Rudy Gobert 6 FRP trade available, the stinky teams are already geared up for development.

B) Miami is a mediocre team that made the Finals, because the East Coast choked in the playoffs. The Heat do have young talent/future assets currently on par with other mediocre teams.

C) Teams in super duper win-now have trade packages worse then the Heat's.

Yes Lillard demanded Miami only, but we haven't seen the trade package. It might be halfway decent when the bomb drops. Cronin had to make some ugly trades to pay off Olshey's credit card debt. But that doesn't mean the Blazers are going to get a bad return for Damian.
 
I still think the Nets will end up with Dame. Remember, he did mention them as 1 of 2 teams.
Marks may have struck out the the three amigos, but no way Dame is going to ask out from there.
 
blazerfan11 said:
That's why Lillard probably needs to start the season with the Blazers.
1) He'll show he's still playing at a career-high level
2) Some teams will not live up to expectations, and expectations are as high for the whole league as ever
3) Many newly-signed free agents can be traded starting December 15th (something like 75 players)

It's the way people are. If they don't think they need something now, they wait.
When they find out they're not as good as hoped, and Damian Lillard is available and lighting it up with the Trail Blazers, some GMs will go from not motivated to motivated to inquire about Lillard.
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the JR podcast told their 17 listeners that they expect Lillard to become the hands down the very best player in the NBA. Then, only then, with Lillard's trade value skyrocketing to the moon, will the Blazers consider trading Damian.

it's a big ask, only high BB I.Q. can deliver such an impressive thought process.
 
Whyachi said:
Cavs went 61-21 prior to LBJ's decision.
A pretty dang good team.

Blazers went 33-49 prior to Dame's trade request.
Stinking for Scoot

Comparing LeBron's decision to Dame's trade request, is putting a 2010 contending NBA team, next to a cellar dwelling 2023 full rebuild effort.

People were mad because LeBron screwed the Cavs out of a TON of trade assets. If James wanted out, he could have asked at the trade deadline or season prior. James left Cleveland wallowing in the mud.

The Blazers are already wallowing in the mud, telling Lillard to be patient with even deeper mud on the horizon. Lillard asked to be traded, the Blazers will get some picks and future assets after the trade. It's a difficult situation, but not a raging jersey burning party.
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Um, have you read any of the reports this summer? Dame and Goodwin are absolutely fucking this team over. LOL wut?!?!
 
illmatic99 said:
The Orlando mention is a first I think and....VERY intriguing.
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could you treat suggs like the tyler herro of this trade and add a 4th team to exchange for a wing/F/C?

Isaac immediately comes off the books.
 
illmatic99 said:
Some info from Toronto side:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/articl...mix-for-damian-lillard-but-is-it-a-good-idea/

- Toronto is confident they can outbid Miami with an offer of OG/Trent/Young/Dick/draft picks.
- Brooklyn could be in the mix if Portland is willing to take Simmons' contract.
- Orlando could be reaching out to Portland as well.
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I like the fact that Brooklyn with all of those picks is finally being mentioned. I'd do this and I'd even let them keep the Philly pick if it were a deal breaker. I've thought that the Nets were the most logical destination for Dame anyway. They end up with a rotation of: Dame, Bridges, Johnson, DFS, Claxton, Dinwiddie, O'Neal, Walker and they have two huge TPEs and still have 3 or 4 tradeable FRPs and 5 SRPs.

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illmatic99 said:
Some info from Toronto side:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/articl...mix-for-damian-lillard-but-is-it-a-good-idea/

- Toronto is confident they can outbid Miami with an offer of OG/Trent/Young/Dick/draft picks.
- Brooklyn could be in the mix if Portland is willing to take Simmons' contract.
- Orlando could be reaching out to Portland as well.
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I would not say no to that but since re-signing OG is not a sure thing I would want to know more about the draft picks.
I certainly would prefer to get Precious though. I just like his energy under the boards.

As for Simmons, I would take that over the Miami deal if they included Clowney.
 
Samuel said:
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could you treat suggs like the tyler herro of this trade and add a 4th team to exchange for a wing/F/C?

Isaac immediately comes off the books.
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It's so sad that the type of player that Isaac is listed as by fanspo is "Low Minute". Fuck... I really liked his game and injuries have decimated him.
 
List of players who can't be traded until at least December 15th:

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/08/players-who-cant-be-traded-until-december-15-7.html

List of players who can't be traded until at least January 15th:

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/08/players-who-cant-be-traded-until-january-15-7.html

Listed below are the players who meet this criteria and can’t be traded until at least January 15, 2024. Players who have the ability to veto trades in 2023/24 are marked with a caret (^).

Brooklyn Nets
Charlotte Hornets
Chicago Bulls
Los Angeles Lakers
Milwaukee Bucks
New Orleans Pelicans
Orlando Magic
Philadelphia 76ers
Phoenix Suns
Portland Trail Blazers
Sacramento Kings
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
Washington Wizards
 
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Natebishop3 said:
I like Toronto. I like Brooklyn.

I don't think Orlando makes much sense.
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Orlando would have made a ton of sense pre-draft if their picks had been included. Coulda had Walker and Lively with those picks, and that would have been amazing. But since they selected Black and Howard, I have no interest.
 
Idog1976 said:
Um, have you read any of the reports this summer? Dame and Goodwin are absolutely fucking this team over. LOL wut?!?!
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reports, yes. Click happy podcasts, sure. Trending hashtags on Twitter posted everywhere, Yuup.

Many ideas are only speculation. Some folks are under the premise it's going to be a bad trade with Miami. The details of the trade are still being negotiated.

If Portland gets 3-4 FRP, 3-4 2nds, + a young prospect or 2 from the Heat ... get the confetti for Cronin's parade ready.
 
Whyachi said:
reports, yes. Click happy podcasts, sure. Trending hashtags on Twitter posted everywhere, Yuup.

Many ideas are only speculation. Some folks are under the premise it's going to be a bad trade with Miami. The details of the trade are still being negotiated.

If Portland gets 3-4 FRP, 3-4 2nds, + a young prospect or 2 from the Heat ... get the confetti for Cronin's parade ready.
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OK sure, we might also land Giannis, and Jokic. All of that, as you said, is speculation. What is not is the behavior of Dame and Goodwin, that's public record.
 
blazerkor said:
I like the fact that Brooklyn with all of those picks is finally being mentioned. I'd do this and I'd even let them keep the Philly pick if it were a deal breaker. I've thought that the Nets were the most logical destination for Dame anyway. They end up with a rotation of: Dame, Bridges, Johnson, DFS, Claxton, Dinwiddie, O'Neal, Walker and they have two huge TPEs and still have 3 or 4 tradeable FRPs and 5 SRPs.

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Some variation on your Brooklyn trade has always been my favorite idea. Whitehead and Clowney are both intriguing prospects, the draft capital is delicious and Simmons is possibly salvageable. If Simmons returned to his old form and at least dunked/laid in the ball when open, he would be an outstanding fit on the team and that trade might become not just good, but incredible.
 
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