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Natebishop3 said:
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It's the proper message to send out. If it's a reality, who knows.

Many have already decided what the outcome is going to be in their mind, but I'm open to seeing how it plays out before taking an extreme stance in either direction.
 
PCmor7 said:
Dame did a pretty good job of that himself.
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How dare Dame want to win. Let's defend the guy who blatantly lied and did nothing to put a winner on the court like he said he wanted to, then chose a 19-year old PG over Dame.

Its comical that people are defending Cronin here
 
BonesJones said:
How dare Dame want to win. Let's defend the guy who blatantly lied and did nothing to put a winner on the court like he said he wanted to, then chose a 19-year old PG over Dame.

Its comical that people are defending Cronin here
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Just out of curiosity who was available for the 3rd pick that would have made Dame happy?
 
BonesJones said:
How dare Dame want to win. Let's defend the guy who blatantly lied and did nothing to put a winner on the court like he said he wanted to, then chose a 19-year old PG over Dame.

Its comical that people are defending Cronin here
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so they both lied, but we dont give a fuck about joe cronin, we do give a fuck about dame lillard
 
BonesJones said:
How dare Dame want to win. Let's defend the guy who blatantly lied and did nothing to put a winner on the court like he said he wanted to, then chose a 19-year old PG over Dame.

Its comical that people are defending Cronin here
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Dame can want to win all he wants - but it's Dame going against what he's always said. Portland has treated him like a deity.
 
BlazerBeav said:
Dame can want to win all he wants - but it's Dame going against what he's always said. Portland has treated him like a deity.
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And Dame obviously wanted to be here. I don't understand siding with Cronin - Who's actions haven't matched his words at ALL - Over Dame who's as solid as the come.
 
BonesJones said:
Holy shit you can't be serious...
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Let me explain this, yet again.

Lillard gives team ultimatum, PUBLICLY.
This tanks our ability to make a deal.
We get shit offers, that are completely unacceptable.
JoeCro doesn't demolish team.
Lillard asks out.

So, which of the following do you believe:
1) Lillard is a Fucking Moron, and couldn't see he just destroyed our ability to make a trade.
2) Lillard is a Snake in the Grass, because he knew how this would unfold. In fact, it was planned.... possibly by his agent.

These are the only 2 options - he knew or he didn't know. Which one do you think is the answer? I think it was option 2. He wanted out, but didn't want to look like the bad guy....

and several of you have actually fallen for it.... and now, he doesn't just want to leave, he wants to go to a specific team - total bullshit.

Of course, maybe I'm wrong, and he's just a complete moron.
 
BlazerBeav said:
But you seem to know for a certainty they didn't?
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I don't think they did, based on Dame wanting out, their actions at the deadline, draft, and free agency (they've done nothing to take a "win-now" direction), and based on what I've heard.
 
BonesJones said:
How dare Dame want to win. Let's defend the guy who blatantly lied and did nothing to put a winner on the court like he said he wanted to, then chose a 19-year old PG over Dame.

Its comical that people are defending Cronin here
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Lie like" I want to retire a blazer"? or how about lie about being against ring chasing then demanding a trade to the team that lost in the finals and ring chasing? Lie about loyalty being important then showing you are not a loyal person?
 
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People probably won’t like this…

But this trade with some future picks (which aren’t great… MIL doesn’t have many to trade) frees up a lot of future room on the length of contract difference, and brings us back our guy Patty C.

Dame said if he could play with anyone he’d want to play with Giannis.

I think the Bucks should perhaps at least be part of the conversation. Maybe a candidate for a multiple team trade situation.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Let me explain this, yet again.

Lillard gives team ultimatum, PUBlICLY.
This tanks our ability to make a deal.
We get shit offers, that are completely unacceptable.
JoeCro doesn't demolish team.
Lillard asks out.

So, which of the following do you believe:
1) Lillard is a Fucking Moron, and couldn't see he just destroyed our ability to make a trade.
2) Lillard is a Snake in the Grass, because he knew how this would unfold. In fact, it was planned.... possibly by his agent.

These are the only 2 options - he knew or he didn't know. Which one do you think is the answer? I think it was option 2. He wanted out, but didn't want to look like the bad guy....

and several of you have actually fallen for it.

Of course, maybe I'm wrong, and he's just a complete moron.
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So Dame wanted to win here but felt like he needed to put pressure on the front office to get them to go along with that, and you don't wonder why that is?

You don't question the narrative that Joe Cronin is helpless and outleveraged in every single negotiation no matter the situation?

We're falling for a dude who's solid and keeps it real, over a guy who directly contradicted his own statements in the past three months and who's action don't back up his words?

Man oh man. What a sad day this is.
 
BonesJones said:
How dare Dame want to win. Let's defend the guy who blatantly lied and did nothing to put a winner on the court like he said he wanted to, then chose a 19-year old PG over Dame.

Its comical that people are defending Cronin here
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Good Grief... your constant whining and sniveling has prompted me to unsubscribe from Blazers Uprise... and now you bring it here. What you should do is put together a resume of all your great takes and send it to Burt. I'm sure he would be more than thrilled to have you on board with the amazing knowledge and business acumen you demonstrate.
 
BlazerBeav said:
So you're completely guessing.
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You're the one guessing because you're taking Joe Cronin for his word when his actions and own contradicting statements say that's a mistake.

Nice.
 
I wonder if the GMs Cronin is dealing with hear the same thing I do whenever he opens his mouth…….”blah, blah, blah, blah, blah”. That’ll be sure to get us a fair trade..,,.,
 
Trying to spin this as Dame is somehow a victim here is laughable. They made him the face of the franchise from day 1, have given him every possible dime, and the fan base treated him like a hero. He's decided all of that isn't enough. Fine, but he created this separation.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Let me explain this, yet again.

Lillard gives team ultimatum, PUBLICLY.
This tanks our ability to make a deal.
We get shit offers, that are completely unacceptable.
JoeCro doesn't demolish team.
Lillard asks out.

So, which of the following do you believe:
1) Lillard is a Fucking Moron, and couldn't see he just destroyed our ability to make a trade.
2) Lillard is a Snake in the Grass, because he knew how this would unfold. In fact, it was planned.... possibly by his agent.

These are the only 2 options - he knew or he didn't know. Which one do you think is the answer? I think it was option 2. He wanted out, but didn't want to look like the bad guy....

and several of you have actually fallen for it.... and now, he doesn't just want to leave, he wants to go to a specific team - total bullshit.

Of course, maybe I'm wrong, and he's just a complete moron.
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Another option: He told the team privately, and it was leaked by a self-serving moron.
 
Mote said:
Good Grief... your constant whining and sniveling has prompted me to unsubscribe from Blazers Uprise... and now you bring it here. What you should do is put together a resume of all your great takes and send it to Burt. I'm sure he would be more than thrilled to have you on board with the amazing knowledge and business acumen you demonstrate.
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Oh no you unsubcribed?! Oh noooooooo
 
BonesJones said:
So Dame wanted to win here but felt like he needed to put pressure on the front office to get them to go along with that, and you don't wonder why that is?

You don't question the narrative that Joe Cronin is helpless and outleveraged in every single negotiation no matter the situation?

We're falling for a dude who's solid and keeps it real, over a guy who directly contradicted his own statements in the past three months and who's action don't back up his words?

Man oh man. What a sad day this is.
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My gut is that Joe has wanted to rebuild since he took over, because most of the moves he has made were clearly with rebuilding in mind. I think he knew he couldn't just trade Dame, and Dame wasn't coming right out and asking for a trade... so I think he did everything he could to put Dame in a position where he HAD to ask out.

All the fans who have already turned on Dame would not have turned on Dame if Joe just shipped him out a year ago. Or at the very least, this became the plan since we got the third pick and Scoot.
 
BonesJones said:
Joe Cronin is trying to make Damian Lillard the bad guy.

FUCK JOE CRONIN.
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Torrie, Dame is the bad guy here. It's eerily similar to the following 8 situations.

  1. Shawn Michaels' Betrayal of Marty Jannetty: In one of the most iconic betrayals, Shawn Michaels superkicked his Rockers tag-team partner, Marty Jannetty, through the Barber Shop window, solidifying his transition into a villainous solo career.
  2. The infamous "Urkelbot" storyline from "Family Matters." In this episode, the lovable and nerdy character Steve Urkel creates a robot version of himself called Urkelbot, who initially helps around the house. However, Urkelbot eventually goes rogue and wreaks havoc, betraying the trust placed in him.
  3. Stone Cold Steve Austin Joins Vince McMahon: Known for his rebellious anti-establishment character, Stone Cold Steve Austin aligned himself with his arch-nemesis, Vince McMahon, turning his back on the fans who had supported him throughout his career.
  4. One of the most infamous acts of betrayal in history, a group of Roman senators, including Brutus and Cassius, conspired to assassinate Julius Caesar, their former ally and leader, due to fears of his increasing power and ambitions.
  5. Sgt. Slaughter Supports Iraq during the Gulf War: In a controversial storyline, Sgt. Slaughter turned his back on his American patriotism and became an Iraqi sympathizer during the Gulf War, betraying his fans and embodying a villainous character aligned with Ira
  6. Anakin Skywalker's fall to the dark side and transformation into Darth Vader. Just as Anakin was initially seen as a heroic Jedi Knight with great potential, his thirst for power and his desire to control his own destiny led him to betray his Jedi brethren and embrace the dark side. Lillard's trade request similarly represents a shift from the image of a loyal star to a figure willing to betray his team in pursuit of personal gain.
  7. Diamond Dallas Page Joins the nWo: Diamond Dallas Page, a beloved fan-favorite, shocked the WCW audience by turning his back on his friends and joining the nWo faction led by Hollywood Hogan, betraying the fans and his reputation as a blue-collar hero.
  8. Delilah, enticed by a promise of wealth, betrayed Samson by revealing the secret of his strength—his hair—to the Philistines, leading to his capture and imprisonment.
 
Natebishop3 said:
My gut is that Joe has wanted to rebuild since he took over, because most of the moves he has made were clearly with rebuilding in mind. I think he knew he couldn't just trade Dame, and Dame wasn't coming right out and asking for a trade... so I think he did everything he could to put Dame in a position where he HAD to ask out.

All the fans who have already turned on Dame would not have turned on Dame if Joe just shipped him out a year ago. Or at the very least, this became the plan since we got the third pick and Scoot.
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Absolutely.
 
BonesJones said:
How dare Dame want to win. Let's defend the guy who blatantly lied and did nothing to put a winner on the court like he said he wanted to, then chose a 19-year old PG over Dame.

Its comical that people are defending Cronin here
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I know the threads are long, but if you actually read them before coming in here like a tornado like you do from time to time, you'd see that a lot of the stuff you're bashing other people about already has been discussed in a much more nuanced way. It's not just bumper stickers and sound bytes.

If you can't see that Dame's fumbled this in a lot of ways then you just plain aren't being objective.
 
twobullz said:
Lie like" I want to retire a blazer"? or how about lie about being against ring chasing then demanding a trade to the team that lost in the finals and ring chasing? Lie about loyalty being important then showing you are not a loyal person?
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or being the greatest blazer in the history or mocking pg 13 for running from the grind or this...

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