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this thread sure seems to get a lot more action when Dame has a bad game than when he has a good one, like his 37 points on only 18 shots tonight; 13 assists as well. And leading the Bucks to a win without Giannis. Bucks lost both games Dame missed by the way
 
wizenheimer said:
this thread sure seems to get a lot more action when Dame has a bad game than when he has a good one, like his 37 points on only 18 shots tonight; 13 assists as well. And leading the Bucks to a win without Giannis. Bucks lost both games Dame missed by the way
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I’d say the concerning thing is that they can seem to have Dame and Giannis play well at the same time.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I’d say the concerning thing is that they can seem to have Dame and Giannis play well at the same time.
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like HB said, that was supposed to be the Stotts bailiwick but Griffin felt threatened....apparently

both players have been the primary on their teams for years. And neither is that good off-the-ball, especially Giannis. It will take time to develop synergy, if it does. It might have to start with an 'it's-my-turn-it's-you-turn' remedial offense. At least that would be better than parking Dame in the corner
 
wizenheimer said:
like HB said, that was supposed to be the Stotts bailiwick but Griffin felt threatened....apparently

both players have been the primary on their teams for years. And neither is that good off-the-ball, especially Giannis. It will take time to develop synergy, if it does. It might have to start with an 'it's-my-turn-it's-you-turn' remedial offense. At least that would be better than parking Dame in the corner
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Yeah but it seems like neither guy is having a really good game unless the other guy doesn’t play at all.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah but it seems like neither guy is having a really good game unless the other guy doesn’t play at all.
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you could be right. I'd have to look at game logs but it does seem when Dame has a good game, Giannis doesn't. When Giannis has a good game, Dame doesn't
 
wizenheimer said:
you could be right. I'd have to look at game logs but it does seem when Dame has a good game, Giannis doesn't. When Giannis has a good game, Dame doesn't
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you know that would be a wild way of load managing both guys: have them each play while the other rests, experimenting with both on the court against bad teams until you can figure out how to make them work together. Both of them end up play like 50 games and then in the playoffs you have a secret weapon locked and loaded.
 
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wizenheimer said:
like HB said, that was supposed to be the Stotts bailiwick but Griffin felt threatened....apparently

both players have been the primary on their teams for years. And neither is that good off-the-ball, especially Giannis. It will take time to develop synergy, if it does. It might have to start with an 'it's-my-turn-it's-you-turn' remedial offense. At least that would be better than parking Dame in the corner
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I haven't watched much... But why is the pick & roll not working to get them both infinite points and Dame 20 assists ler game?

Are they not running it?
 
Phatguysrule said:
I haven't watched much... But why is the pick & roll not working to get them both infinite points and Dame 20 assists ler game?

Are they not running it?
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they have been running it, and Dame has about the same frequency of PnR as he did in Portland. His efficiency in this play type in down a little but he's still over the 90th percentile. Nurkic had flaws but he was/is damn good at setting screens.

Milwaukee's coach has been running Dame off the ball a lot so Giannis can run the offense. The problem is, or at least appears to be that when Dame is off the ball, Milwaukee has trouble getting the ball to him in good shooting situations. Dame's usage and FGA are significantly down this year; you'd expect that playing with better players, especially one like Giannis. But you'd also expect with Dame playing off the ball more and getting more off-ball screens his assited FG rate would be up. But it's not: his assisted FG rate is 25% this year; last season it was 32%

I'm not sure Milwaukee's rookie coach can figure out a good synergy between Giannis and Dame. Clearly, that's the job Stotts was hired for, but oh well. It will probably be up to Dame and Giannis to figure it out
 
wizenheimer said:
they have been running it, and Dame has about the same frequency of PnR as he did in Portland. His efficiency in this play type in down a little but he's still over the 90th percentile. Nurkic had flaws but he was/is damn good at setting screens.

Milwaukee's coach has been running Dame off the ball a lot so Giannis can run the offense. The problem is, or at least appears to be that when Dame is off the ball, Milwaukee has trouble getting the ball to him in good shooting situations. Dame's usage and FGA are significantly down this year; you'd expect that playing with better players, especially one like Giannis. But you'd also expect with Dame playing off the ball more and getting more off-ball screens his assited FG rate would be up. But it's not: his assisted FG rate is 25% this year; last season it was 32%

I'm not sure Milwaukee's rookie coach can figure out a good synergy between Giannis and Dame. Clearly, that's the job Stotts was hired for, but oh well. It will probably be up to Dame and Giannis to figure it out
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Stotts was hired before Dame was traded, no?
 
Recent 10 game stretch for Dame
8 wins / 2 losses

27.7 points,
4.8 rebounds, and
8.7 assists per game

25 PTS- 6 REB - 9 AST
18 PTS- 5 REB - 13 AST
32 PTS- 4 REB - 9 AST
31 PTS- 5 REB - 4 AST
31 PTS- 6 REB - 10 AST
27 PTS- 5 REB - 5 AST
22 PTS- 5 REB - 7 AST
27 PTS- 3 REB - 12 AST
27 PTS- 5 REB - 5 AST
37 PTS- 4 REB - 13 AST
 
Phatguysrule said:
Recent 10 game stretch for Dame
8 wins / 2 losses

27.7 points,
4.8 rebounds, and
8.7 assists per game

25 PTS- 6 REB - 9 AST
18 PTS- 5 REB - 13 AST
32 PTS- 4 REB - 9 AST
31 PTS- 5 REB - 4 AST
31 PTS- 6 REB - 10 AST
27 PTS- 5 REB - 5 AST
22 PTS- 5 REB - 7 AST
27 PTS- 3 REB - 12 AST
27 PTS- 5 REB - 5 AST
37 PTS- 4 REB - 13 AST
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The scoring is about where I figured with so many guys needing the ball on that team, but I really thought the assists would be higher.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The scoring is about where I figured with so many guys needing the ball on that team, but I really thought the assists would be higher.
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I think Giannis is bringing the ball up a lot, so Dame isn't getting as many opportunities to create opportunities for others as he used to.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Giannis had a triple-double with 10 assists last night. Dame had 9 assists. 19 assists from your top two players is pretty strong.
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That's one game. I'm talking about his average for the season. 8.7 is good but I really thought he might get to 10 per game on this team with so many weapons.
 
Dame wants a fucking ring. The dude isn't a stat chaser and is just going to do the best he can to win with his new team filled with far better players than he's ever had around him. I'm hoping they win the in-season tourney and the NBA Finals. Go Dame!
 
Dame will put that team over the top. He's an incredible end game superstar. The Bucks are just getting started. If they stay healthy and the coach actually pans out, I wouldn't bet against them to be in the mix come playoffs.
 
blazerkor said:
Dame wants a fucking ring. The dude isn't a stat chaser and is just going to do the best he can to win with his new team filled with far better players than he's ever had around him. I'm hoping they win the in-season tourney and the NBA Finals. Go Dame!
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Kind of surprised but I'm pretty indifferent to what Dame does this year in Milwaukee.

I think his and his groups antics on his way out kind of burned up the goodwill I had for him when he isn't wearing a Blazer uni.

I care 10x more about rooting against Miami and against the Warriors; than what Dame does or doesn't accomplish.

Who knows maybe I start to care much more one way or another actually watching some IST or playoffs.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Kind of surprised but I'm pretty indifferent to what Dame does this year in Milwaukee.

I think his and his groups antics on his way out kind of burned up the goodwill I had for him when he isn't wearing a Blazer uni.

I care 10x more about rooting against Miami and against the Warriors; than what Dame does or doesn't accomplish.

Who knows maybe I start to care much more one way or another actually watching some IST or playoffs.
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Big same.
 
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