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I know that those shoes aren't designed for me, but they just look like they were designed in 1983 and should be in the next Run DMC video.
 
barfo said:
I have no interest in shoes, or in Lillard, but I clicked on it so - per forum rules - I am required to comment.

The toe of that shoe looks like something from my grandma's house, and the rest of it just looks like every court shoe ever.

Three thumbs down.

barfo
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Don’t you have a peg leg?
 
Mediocre Man said:
What he does in his personal time is no one’s business but his
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e_blazer said:
Giannis is an incredibly talented athlete who doesn’t really play basketball very well. Watching LeBron last night, he’s like the anti-Giannis. He’s still a beast of an athlete, admittedly on the downside of his career, but he just knows how to play the game. He makes everyone on his team better.
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Umm Giannis won a championship less than 4 years ago and scored 50 points in the deciding game. Finals MVP. In his 8th season with Middleton as his 2nd best player. LeBron won his first in his 9th season with Wade as his 2nd best player. Giannis is Top 3 player in the league. 3rd best PER. Two time regular season MVP. Bucks never should’ve traded Jrue for Dame. That’s their problem.
 
KingSpeed said:
Two time regular season MVP. Bucks never should’ve traded Jrue for Dame. That’s their problem.
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they won the championship 5 years ago....5 years. In the 2 years after that, the Bucks, with Jrue, were beat in the 2nd round and then had a 1st round exit. Their problem isn't Dame, it's that their supporting cast is aging out and gone. When they won the title, Middleton averaged 20.4 points over 68 games and DiVincenzo averaged 10.4, and Forbes averaged 10. This season, Middleton averaged 12.6 in only 23 games while DiVincenzo and Forbes are gone

when they won the title Holiday averaged 17.7 pts; Dame is averaging 8 more at 25.1. Jrue had a winshere/48 of .165; Dame's at .182. Jrue's BPM was 3.4; Dame's is 3.9. Jrue's career BPM is 1.6; Dame's is 4.6

when they won the title Giannis was healthy down the stretch and in the playoffs. Last season he was not healthy down the stretch and didn't play a minute in the playoffs. And he's already missed 12 games this season and may miss at least a dozen more

you've turned into a real snarky Dame-hater...did he shoot your dog on the way out of town?
 
KingSpeed said:
Umm Giannis won a championship less than 4 years ago and scored 50 points in the deciding game. Finals MVP. In his 8th season with Middleton as his 2nd best player. LeBron won his first in his 9th season with Wade as his 2nd best player. Giannis is Top 3 player in the league. 3rd best PER. Two time regular season MVP. Bucks never should’ve traded Jrue for Dame. That’s their problem.
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Giannis is a fantastic player. He’s a superstar. There’s not much physically that he can’t do on a basketball court. My point, though, is that LeBron just knows HOW to play the game and make his teammates better. To put it in your world, Giannis is George Clooney. He can draw big crowds to a movie and gives a good performance. LeBron is DeNiro. He knows everything about his craft and gives a magnetic performance. He also knows how to make his costars give their best performance.
 
julius said:
I know that those shoes aren't designed for me, but they just look like they were designed in 1983 and should be in the next Run DMC video.
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These are OG Adidas Superstars FAMS! Otherwise known as as ShellToes. Arguably the most popular shoe ever made. These are special DameTime editions! I was lucky enough to land a pair.
 
wizenheimer said:
they won the championship 5 years ago....5 years. In the 2 years after that, the Bucks, with Jrue, were beat in the 2nd round and then had a 1st round exit. Their problem isn't Dame, it's that their supporting cast is aging out and gone. When they won the title, Middleton averaged 20.4 points over 68 games and DiVincenzo averaged 10.4, and Forbes averaged 10. This season, Middleton averaged 12.6 in only 23 games while DiVincenzo and Forbes are gone

when they won the title Holiday averaged 17.7 pts; Dame is averaging 8 more at 25.1. Jrue had a winshere/48 of .165; Dame's at .182. Jrue's BPM was 3.4; Dame's is 3.9. Jrue's career BPM is 1.6; Dame's is 4.6

when they won the title Giannis was healthy down the stretch and in the playoffs. Last season he was not healthy down the stretch and didn't play a minute in the playoffs. And he's already missed 12 games this season and may miss at least a dozen more

you've turned into a real snarky Dame-hater...did he shoot your dog on the way out of town?
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So much wrong here. Where to start? The Bucks won LESS than FOUR years ago. Just 3 years and 8 months ago. DiVincenzo was injured in the first round and didn’t play the rest of the playoffs. Anyone with eyes can see that when it comes to winning a championship, you’re better off with Jrue than with Dame. Jrue even beat Dame head to head. There’s no comparison. Better defender. More versatile. Doesn’t NEED the ball to be effective. Defense wins championship. It’s ok to be critical of Dame, dude. He doesn’t play here anymore.
 
KingSpeed said:
So much wrong here. Where to start? The Bucks won LESS than FOUR years ago. Just 3 years and 8 months ago. DiVincenzo was injured in the first round and didn’t play the rest of the playoffs. Anyone with eyes can see that when it comes to winning a championship, you’re better off with Jrue than with Dame. Jrue even beat Dame head to head. There’s no comparison. Better defender. More versatile. Doesn’t NEED the ball to be effective. Defense wins championship.
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If Jrue is so instrumental in winning championships why did it take till his 12th season before he won one?

mainly because he was the 3rd best player on the team. Last year in Boston, he may have been the 4th best player on the team behind Tatum, Brown. and White

I wonder how many championships Dame would have won if he would have been the 3rd best on his team

KingSpeed said:
It’s ok to be critical of Dame, dude. He doesn’t play here anymore.
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lol....yeah, I know that's your M.O.
 
e_blazer said:
Giannis is a fantastic player. He’s a superstar. There’s not much physically that he can’t do on a basketball court. My point, though, is that LeBron just knows HOW to play the game and make his teammates better. To put it in your world, Giannis is George Clooney. He can draw big crowds to a movie and gives a good performance. LeBron is DeNiro. He knows everything about his craft and gives a magnetic performance. He also knows how to make his costars give their best performance.
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That makes no sense. Clooney has never been one of three best actors in the world. He has 2 Oscars. One for supporting, one for producing. Giannis has 2 MVPs, 1 DPOY, and 1 Finals MVP. Giannis is better than DeNiro in that analogy. And I love DeNiro. Let’s stick to basketball.
 
wizenheimer said:
If Jrue is so instrumental in winning championships why did it take till his 12th season before he won one?

mainly because he was the 3rd best player on the team. Last year in Boston, he may have been the 4th best player on the team behind Tatum, Brown. and White

I wonder how many championships Dame would have won if he would have been the 3rd best on his team
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None. He can’t defend and he’s not as good a player when he’s not taking all the shots. Plays better when Giannis doesn’t. Jrue is more complimentary. I don’t think Boston wins last year if it’s Dame instead of Jrue.
 
KingSpeed said:
That makes no sense. Clooney has never been one of three best actors in the world. He has 2 Oscars. One for supporting, one for producing. Giannis has 2 MVPs, 1 DPOY, and 1 Finals MVP. Giannis is better than DeNiro in that analogy. And I love DeNiro. Let’s stick to basketball.
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But you are supposed to know the game and then post?
 
KingSpeed said:
None. He can’t defend and he’s not as good a player when he’s not taking all the shots. Plays better when Giannis doesn’t. Jrue is more complimentary. I don’t think Boston wins last year if it’s Dame instead of Jrue.
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wow...such completely unsupported and unprovable logic has convinced me...thanks for the enlightenment

using your NBA championship logic I now know that:

Steve Kerr was better then John Stockton or Allen Iverson or Gary Payton or Terry Porter or Kevin Johnson or Fat Lever
Robert Horry was better than Charles Barkely or Buck Williams or Bernard King or Tom Chambers
Byron Scott was better than Anfernee Hardaway or Clyde Drexler or Grant Hill or Reggie Miller or George Gervin
Bobby Portis is better than Karl Malone or Dominiqe Wilkins or Alonzo Mourning
Kevon Looney is better than Domantas Sabonis, or his father, or Bam Adebayo, or KAT, or Embiid
 
wizenheimer said:
Robert Horry was better than Charles Barkely or Buck Williams or Bernard King or Tom Chambers
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Big Shot Bob hit big shots. Like, he has rings because he hit shots. The others make sense but this one has some truth to it. Chuck, Buck, and Tom all missed big shots or free throws that cost their teams. I wasn't around for Bernard King's heyday, but there's a reason Robert Horry has rings with multiple teams, he's demonstrably part of that.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Big Shot Bob hit big shots. Like, he has rings because he hit shots. The others make sense but this one has some truth to it. Chuck, Buck, and Tom all missed big shots or free throws that cost their teams. I wasn't around for Bernard King's heyday, but there's a reason Robert Horry has rings with multiple teams, he's demonstrably part of that.
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c'mon now...a lot of players have hit big shots, including Dame. Horry was just in a position to hit bigger shots on a larger stage. But it wasn't his talent that was primary in getting his team to that larger stage.

* in Houston, it was the talent of Hakeem, Mawell, Thorpe, Smith, and Drexler. (Horry averaged about 11 & 5 during Houston's 2 championships).
* And in LA it was Shaq, Kobe, Rice, Fisher (Horry averaged about 7.5 & 5 during the Lakers' threepeat and was part of a supporting group that had Rick Fox, Brian Shaw, and Ron Harper).
* and obviously, for the Spurs, it was the big-3 of Duncan, Parker and Ginobli. Horry was just one part of a supporting cast that included Bruce, Bowen, Brent Barry, Nazr Mohammed, and Oberto. He only averaged 5 & 4 when he collected his 7th ring.

Horry didn't have elite talent, just elite timing

that's not to say he didn't play important roles on those teams. But that's the point, he was just a role player, he was never the 3rd best and often not the 4th best player on those teams. Which was what I was getting at in the Dame vs Jrue debate. Granted, Jrue is a very high level role player and was clearly the 3rd best player on the Bucks title team. During the playoffs, Giannis averaged 30 -13 - 5 and Middleton averaged 24 - 8- 5, while Jrue was 17 - 6 - 9. For the Celtics, it may have been that White was the 3rd best player, and Jrue 4th best

whatshisname was arguing that Jrue had the type of talent integral to playoff success and Dame didn't. But Jrue had his first 11 seasons while swimming in the wakes of Giannis & Middleton & Tatum & Brown. He spent 7 years in New Orleans alongside AD; most of the time as the 2nd best player. Yet, in his first 11 seasons he appeared in 30 playoff games. Dame, in his first 9 seasons appeared in 61 playoff games; more than twice as many in 2 fewer seasons. (Apparently, Jrue's critical playoff talent didn't kick in until he was playing with 2 all-stars instead of 1). And we know around here that it was Dame's talent that carried Portland into the playoffs for for 8 straight seasons. When Dame was in his prime, he had CJ and Nurkic. Jrue had Giannis and Middleton; or Tatum and Brown
 
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