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Dame or Ant?

  • Trade Dame, rebuild time!

    Votes: 18 43.9%

  • Trade Ant - let's give Dame one last chance to take us to the promised land

    Votes: 23 56.1%
  • Total voters
    41
oldmangrouch said:
Serious question: at what point or under what circumstances would you consider a serious attempt at a rebuild to be acceptable?
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I think we are in a serious rebuild when you consider the moves and changes that have taken place in the last year. Plus we just drafted a nice player in the lotto and pick up a nice player in round 2. I would call it a blow up but yes a rebuild is in process.
 
oldmangrouch said:
:dunno: So, we kick the can down the road a couple of years.

I think this discussion has reached a dead end.
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it has reached a dead end, but to be honest, that was months ago. I still say Dame's extension was the nail in the trade-Dame coffin
 
wizenheimer said:
it has reached a dead end, but to be honest, that was months ago. I still say Dame's extension was the nail in the trade-Dame coffin
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If we don't become contenders, ya'll will just hear more complains from the four amigos (there are a lot more people that feel the same way than just us four amigos). Yayyyyyyyy to the next few years of mediocrity!
 
SlyPokerCat said:
If we don't become contenders, ya'll will just hear more complains from the four amigos (there are a lot more people that feel the same way than just us four amigos). Yayyyyyyyy to the next few years of mediocrity!
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trouble is, the path of trading Dame just offers a different path for years of mediocrity
 
wizenheimer said:
trouble is, the path of trading Dame just offers a different path for years of mediocrity
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One that offers

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I think dame will age like kobe bryant. He'll soon be a major liability. Since this team is not close to a contender, i think its time to look to the future.
 
wizenheimer said:
lol...do you really believe Portland would be getting any top-6 picks for Dame in the next 3-4 years?
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It's certainly possible. Ray Allen on an expiring contract was worth the 5th pick. Also we don't know exactly where picks will end up often when the trade happens. Thats why unprotected picks many years out and swaps are worth a ton. The Pelicans got both of those from the Lakers for Davis and Bucks for Holliday, Utah for Gobert, Rockets for Harden, Clippers for George, etc.

Yeah they might only be worth middle of the first round picks; but they also might be worth much more. Thats how the Celtics got Tatum and Brown; building a contender, by parting ways with aging superstars in trades many years prior.

Or even look at the Pelicans; nobody though the Lakers pick with a prime Davis and LeBron would be #8th. The even more valuable picks are still waiting to convey.
 
With a healthy Dame, any team he's on thats halfway decent, has a chance to shock the world!
 
WesleyMatthews said:
It's certainly possible. Ray Allen on an expiring contract was worth the 5th pick. Also we don't know exactly where picks will end up often when the trade happens. Thats why unprotected picks many years out and swaps are worth a ton. The Pelicans got both of those from the Lakers for Davis and Bucks for Holliday, Utah for Gobert, Rockets for Harden, Clippers for George, etc.

Yeah they might only be worth middle of the first round picks; but they also might be worth much more. Thats how the Celtics got Tatum and Brown; building a contender, by parting ways with aging superstars in trades many years prior.

Or even look at the Pelicans; nobody though the Lakers pick with a prime Davis and LeBron would be #8th. The even more valuable picks are still waiting to convey.
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the main thing about your argument....thankfully...is that it shitcans the absolutely phony BS argument about "trade Dame to a contender so he can get a ring"

to even have a chance at any kind of lottery pick over the next 3-4 years, Dame would have to be traded to a mediocre team. A non-contender....a team like Portland

in other words, not only trade Dame, but shit on him at the same time
 
wizenheimer said:
the main thing about your argument....thankfully...is that it shitcans the absolutely phony BS argument about "trade Dame to a contender so he can get a ring"

to even have a chance at any kind of lottery pick over the next 3-4 years, Dame would have to be traded to a mediocre team. A non-contender....a team like Portland

in other words, not only trade Dame, but shit on him at the same time
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A team like the Knicks?
 
wizenheimer said:
the main thing about your argument....thankfully...is that it shitcans the absolutely phony BS argument about "trade Dame to a contender so he can get a ring"

to even have a chance at any kind of lottery pick over the next 3-4 years, Dame would have to be traded to a mediocre team. A non-contender....a team like Portland

in other words, not only trade Dame, but shit on him at the same time
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So you're saying being on a non-contender is shitting on him?
 
Hoopguru said:
With a healthy Dame, any team he's on thats halfway decent, has a chance to shock the world!
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Grant is nice but Dame still can’t do it alone. At some point we’re going to have to stop waiting for all of these young players to develop and find another star by trade.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Grant is nice but Dame still can’t do it alone. At some point we’re going to have to stop waiting for all of these young players to develop and find another star by trade.
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Its possible that Simons and/or Shaedon could be the compliment he needs, or as you say a trade for another star with assets we have.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
So now we choosing between Damian Lillard and Anfernee Simons?

Really?
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Well, yes. The question isn't limited to who the best player is right now. It includes trade value. It includes financial considerations. If the Dame/Simons backcourt isn't better than the Dame/CJ pairing, that question may become pressing in short order.
 
Haven’t read the whole thread, can’t be bothered. After years of fans tearing their hair out over the obviously unworkable backcourt pairing of Dame and CJ, management finally trades CJ only to re-up with yet another defensively bellow average backcourt pairing. Simons as a microwave off the bench? Nope, more of the same please! I’m completely disengaged, more than any other season in memory, and will be whilst this continues. I’ll still watch games, but I find it hard to care about the results. With all that said, I’d love nothing more than to be proven wrong.
 
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oldmangrouch said:
Well, yes. The question isn't limited to who the best player is right now. It includes trade value. It includes financial considerations. If the Dame/Simons backcourt isn't better than the Dame/CJ pairing, that question may become pressing in short order.
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I'm kind of confused why some think Dame/Ant is better or even as good as Dame/CJ? It isn't and it won't be.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
I'm kind of confused why some think Dame/Ant is better or even as good as Dame/CJ? It isn't and it won't be.
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it might be better, it might not. It might be different, it may not.

but hopefully, Cronin won't be so idiotically welded to Ant like Olshey was to CJ
 
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Fairly-Hard said:
I'm kind of confused why some think Dame/Ant is better or even as good as Dame/CJ? It isn't and it won't be.
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and you know this for a fact after 3 games they've played.
 
Hoopguru said:
Its possible that Simons and/or Shaedon could be the compliment he needs, or as you say a trade for another star with assets we have.
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Is O.G. Anunoby a big enough star or is he more on Jerami Grants level? Could be on the Blazers radar again this season.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Is O.G. Anunoby a big enough star or is he more on Jerami Grants level? Could be on the Blazers radar again this season.
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Grant level. Decent player but a role player

somehow he really got overrated in this forum
 
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