Dame Trades Thread

[illmatic99]

Just posting this in the several places where it needs posted:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-considering-trade-demand-despite-recent-buzz

i paraphrased it all here:

Mostly paraphrasing while typing....

Windhorst (on his pod): "I don't believe based on my conversations (in Dame's orbit) that Dame is serious at this point to say he wants out, but I do think he was put in a very uncomfortable position and partially because of his own making. The Blazers are now in a position where they need some stabilizing and they need Dame and Chauncey to build a relationship together."

"I know both Dame had conversations with both Billups and D'Antoni during the interview process (either in the formal setting or out) and one of the things MDA made his case for Dame to become a ball-handling MVP and Dame was impressed with D'Antoni, but the message Dame would like to project is that these conversations were not his way of "vetting them" or that he was acting as the "captain of the franchise" in the process, but he wants to keep his hands of it. At the end of the day, he has 4 yrs on his contract with huge numbers. "

"I want to be clear about Chauncey but I've spent a lot of time talking to him in 2017 when he was considering the Cavs GM job that he was offered, and I told him then that there was a good chance that Lebron would leave. He had said that would be OK with him and that he would have been OK with building something from scratch. I think he will try to engage and connect with Dame and try to make it work, but he won't be worried if Dame is closer to the edge and wants out."

Pelton: "To imply that Dame had no role in the Billups hiring is disingenuous.... I understand why he feels sensitive, but for him to use that as a pretext for an eventual departure is a bit of a stretch to me."

Young: "Damian has always been rigid in his loyalty to the Blazers both publicly and privately, but this was the first time you've heard some of those whispers about antsyness from Dame. It seems like there is a goundwork being laid here and it's his attempt to distance himself and provide some cover (from criticism)."

"I was writing articles on the team two years ago and was sitting in Neil's office and I can't get over how many times Olshey compared Billups to Dame as "that kind of leader." This is the guy the team wanted to reorganize them, and would hold them accountable like a player-coach."

 

[damianlillard]

I agree but I like Hayes better than Williams and Alexander-Walker better than Smart(I don’t like Smart) Plus they have a lot of first rounders to throw around. They could offer a pretty stacked package.

Yeah I am slightly leaning towards the Pelicans offer. They have the #10 pick in this draft I believe and a ton of future picks. One thing I will say is that if we blow this team up it is important that we get a game changing big man alongside whoever the all star is. Of course that can be had through the draft in the next few years

 

[blazerkor]

Yeah I am slightly leaning towards the Pelicans offer. They have the #10 pick in this draft I believe and a ton of future picks. One thing I will say is that if we blow this team up it is important that we get a game changing big man alongside whoever the all star is. Of course that can be had through the draft in the next few years

I'm leaning towards keeping Dame and trading CJ and whatever picks and even Nas to Philly for Simmons. Then I'm leaning towards finding the best 3 and D PF or C that we can get for Nurk.

I don't see why we're talking about trading Dame when all that we've heard is that he is pissed about social media backlash but we got one of the coaches he wanted.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Damian Lillard trade rumors: Ranking all 29 possible destinations for Blazers' superstar point guard

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Randle is trending on Twitter and it seems to be because of this:

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Lots of Knicks fans are saying that RJ Barrett is too much to give up and Quickley has similar numbers to Dame as a rookie...

Meanwhile I'm not sure the prospect of going to the Knicks to team up with Randle is what finally drives Dame to demand a trade...

 

[Strenuus]

If they get Dame those picks are gonna be trash cause he's gonna make them playoff contenders in a shitty eastern conference.

 

[tykendo]

Knicks Fan is delusional. Quickley's stats are no where near Dame's as a rookie. Quickley was uber inconsistent, and his playing time varied a ton because of it. Jayson Smith, a Fox Sports Radio talent, is a huge Knicks Fan. He brings up that compensation a lot. But says maybe they wouldn't have to include Barrett. I almost drive off the road. I'm like You'd have to include Randall and Keys to MSG Foo. Dream on. I do like his show with mike Harmon though. They're funny guys.

 

[tykendo]

If they get Dame those picks are gonna be trash cause he's gonna make them playoff contenders in a shitty eastern conference.

So true. Draft picks in a Dame trade would be gahbidgeeee. He would make a team so good, those picks would be glorified 2nd rounders. Top 5 picks aren't a guaranty these days. That's why you never want to trade your generational talent, unless you are getting a generational talent in return.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Not sure if this was already posted but this was posted at Lakersground lol:

Portland gets Michael Porter Jr / Dennis Schroeder/ Aaron Gordon + Lakers 1st round pick and Nuggets 1st round pick

Denver gets Kyle Kuzma / Convington / Nurkic / THT

Lakers get Damian Lillard

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Strenuus]

Not sure if this was already posted but this was posted at Lakersground lol:

Portland gets Michael Porter Jr / Dennis Schroeder/ Aaron Gordon + Lakers 1st round pick and Nuggets 1st round pick

Denver gets Kyle Kuzma / Convington / Nurkic / THT

Lakers get Damian Lillard

This might be the dumbest trade I've ever seen.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Lakersground:


I get what you mean 2019 but the Kemba talk by Zach Lowe gives me a little bit of hope especially if we can re-route him to the Blazers after we trade for him.. so potentially the Blazers could be getting Kemba Walker / Kyle Kuzma / THT and other fillers while potentially getting OKC’s 16th pick and our 22nd pick + the late distant 2027 pick

 

[JoshuaHall]

Lakers fans need to accept there isn’t a single trade on the planet that the Lakers can make to get Damian Lillard. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. They’ve got less assets than us, which is reallllllly impressive.

And yes, that includes Anthony “slightly more durable than Zach Collins” Davis.

 

[julius]

Lakersground:


I get what you mean 2019 but the Kemba talk by Zach Lowe gives me a little bit of hope especially if we can re-route him to the Blazers after we trade for him.. so potentially the Blazers could be getting Kemba Walker / Kyle Kuzma / THT and other fillers while potentially getting OKC’s 16th pick and our 22nd pick + the late distant 2027 pick

Well if that's all it takes...I mean, why not do it?

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Gross.

 

[blazerkor]

The thing about the rumors of the Sixers wanting to put a package around Simmons for Dame or the Clips offering PG13 for Dame is that if those teams make those calls we just pivot into talks for CJ. We make it known to them that Dame is untouchable but we just happen to have Dame Lite on our roster who we are open to trading. Philly puts a bunch of young assets around Simmons in the Dame trade and we tell them to keep those assets and take CJ for Simmons straight up. The Clips want Dame for PG13 straight up or with a little sweetener from them and we say no but we can give you CJ and picks and Nas.

So these teams wanting Dame might be a good thing because it gets a dialogue going and finally the fact that Dame and CJ are so incredibly redundant works in our favor because we can volunteer CJ as a lesser version of what they were calling for in the first place.

 

[beast blazer]

Dame to indy for sabonis and brogdon.

 

[Hoopguru]

The thing about the rumors of the Sixers wanting to put a package around Simmons for Dame or the Clips offering PG13 for Dame is that if those teams make those calls we just pivot into talks for CJ. We make it known to them that Dame is untouchable but we just happen to have Dame Lite on our roster who we are open to trading. Philly puts a bunch of young assets around Simmons in the Dame trade and we tell them to keep those assets and take CJ for Simmons straight up. The Clips want Dame for PG13 straight up or with a little sweetener from them and we say no but we can give you CJ and picks and Nas.

So these teams wanting Dame might be a good thing because it gets a dialogue going and finally the fact that Dame and CJ are so incredibly redundant works in our favor because we can volunteer CJ as a lesser version of what they were calling for in the first place.

Good take, I think teams will be looking for offensive gun slingers that can get hot and create havoc with the Ball. Look at Young, small, isnt great defender, but creates and scores in bunches. He does distribute the ball well. I think CJ can play similar role and if playing pg could distribute the ball.
Knicks Philly would be ideal teams for him now that everyone assumed CJ is gone.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Lakers fans need to accept there isn’t a single trade on the planet that the Lakers can make to get Damian Lillard. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. They’ve got less assets than us, which is reallllllly impressive.

And yes, that includes Anthony “slightly more durable than Zach Collins” Davis.

I remember when people said the Lakes didn’t have enough assist to get Anthony Davis and they got him though.

 

[JoshuaHall]

PG for Lillard is straight up laughable.
Also, why the fuck would the Blazers do it?
PG + CJ = Worse than PG + Kawhi…
And certainly not as good as Dame + Kawhi.
Uh, no.

 

[JoshuaHall]

I remember when people said the Lakes didn’t have enough assist to get Anthony Davis and they got him though.

Uh, what?
They had Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, the #4 pick and their future picks (which they also gave away for AD).

Not sure where or who said that, but they’re a moron if they didn’t think the Lakers had enough assets especially when AD could force his way to specific teams. Dame doesn’t have that luxury as he is under team control for multiple years.

The current Lakers don’t have anyone close to Ingram, maybe not even Ball, don’t have their future picks until like 2050 and don’t have a top 5 pick. It’s … not even comparable what they have to offer now compared to then.

Right now they have THT and Kuzma; which is a hot pile of shit.

Now what people were saying is that Boston could’ve outbid them, but chose not to because AD wouldn’t guarantee them he would stay.

 

[AldoTrapani]

This thread sounds like what I been telling ya for how long now? Smh

 

[royo]

Uh, what?
They had Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, the #4 pick and their future picks (which they also gave away for AD).

Not sure where or who said that, but they’re a moron if they didn’t think the Lakers had enough assets especially when AD could force his way to specific teams. Dame doesn’t have that luxury as he is under team control for multiple years.

The current Lakers don’t have anyone close to Ingram, maybe not even Ball, don’t have their future picks until like 2050 and don’t have a top 5 pick. It’s … not even comparable what they have to offer now compared to then.

Right now they have THT and Kuzma; which is a hot pile of shit.

Now what people were saying is that Boston could’ve outbid them, but chose not to because AD wouldn’t guarantee them he would stay.

Well, they actually have AD, don't they?

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think people understand.... if we trade Dame, we're blowing it up.

 

[JoshuaHall]

Well, they actually have AD, don't they?

Lakers fans need to accept there isn’t a single trade on the planet that the Lakers can make to get Damian Lillard. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. They’ve got less assets than us, which is reallllllly impressive.

And yes, that includes Anthony “slightly more durable than Zach Collins” Davis.

 

[julius]

I remember when people said the Lakes didn’t have enough assist to get Anthony Davis and they got him though.

Yeah, and they traded away a lot of those assets to get AD, so what assets do they have now? Plus, AD made it known he wanted to be traded and pretty much demanded he go to the Lakers, whereas Dame hasn't done that, and has constantly said he doesn't want to join up on a super team. But hey, it makes for good clicks and everyone knows Portland fans will react to it online.

 

[wizenheimer]

just thought I'd check the numbers of Dame's progression as a player from 2012 till now:



that's pretty impressive considering he was a unanimous ROY and full-time starter in his first season

 

[Natebishop3]

just thought I'd check the numbers of Dame's progression as a player from 2012 till now:

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that's pretty impressive considering he was a unanimous ROY and full-time starter in his first season

What's really funny is that I remember creating a thread while LMA was on the team asking if people thought that LMA was holding Dame back. People thought I was nuts. I'm actually glad that diva left because if he had stayed we might not have seen Dame completely blossom.