Damian Lillard meets with owner Paul Allen over team direction

[TBpup]

Dude, stop bringing up Faried. He is getting DNPcd's all season.

'Dude'....he's played in 30 of 46 games this year and seems to often give the Blazers fits. So "all season"....not so much.

 

[illmatic99]

'Dude'....he's played in 30 of 46 games this year and seems to often give the Blazers fits. So "all season"....not so much.

Last time he did anything of significance was December 8 in Orlando, so go on and keep beating that drum

 

[TBpup]

Last time he did anything of significance was December 8 in Orlando, so go on and keep beating that drum

If beating a drum is pointing out that he had not "been getting DNPcd's all season"...okay. Was just pointing out a fact....which your response indicates you weren't interested in. No big deal. Some people like facts, some don't.

 

[illmatic99]

If beating a drum is pointing out that he had not "been getting DNPcd's all season"...okay. Was just pointing out a fact....which your response indicates you weren't interested in. No big deal. Some people like facts, some don't.

Too bad Malone only played him 17 minutes against us in one of the three games this season. And too bad they lost the one game he did play. This is his gamelog, just FYI:

 

[julius]

I swear if we wake up February 8th to "Portland Trail Blazer star Damian Lillard traded to New York Knicks for Frank Ntilikina, Tim Hardaway Jr, Doug McDermott, and an undisclosed future first round pick" I will cry

I think I'd honestly have to re-think this whole "being a Blazer fan" thing if that kind of trade took place.

 

[TBpup]

Too bad Malone only played 17 minutes against us in one of the three games this season. And too bad they lost the one game he did play. This is his gamelog, just FYI:
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What does 'Malone' have to do with anything?

 

[illmatic99]

What does 'Malone' have to do with anything?

He's the one deciding whether Faried should play or not.

I'm derailing convo. Apologies. I agree that we should have won- said multiple times we gave that game away. But Faried playing or not is of little significance. He's barely played all year, and him getting 5 or 10 mpg once every three games shows his coach doesn't believe in him either.

Back on topic. We need trades.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Pinwheel1]

While reading this article without first looking to see who at ESPN wrote it.....it felt very familiar. Then I looked. Hard to know with this guy how much is totally fabricated to make the story more interesting.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Whoever guarded Murray last night got lit up.

Outstanding post!!

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

Here's the solution Paul, and I know you read my posts.

Get a real GM, send Neil back to audition for "As The Stomach Turns", and find us some talent worthy of Damian Lillard.

Fuck the salary cap and luxury tax, just go in up to your neck. A few extra millions won't dent your billion-dollar piggy bank, and tell the Vulcans to go Pon Farr themselves.

 

[crandc]

Thanks for sharing, good information.

Dame still sees himself as leader on the team.
Paul Allen is still somewhat engaged, but clearly less so - only attended one home game this year? I remember when he was an absolute fixture and often showed up on the road as well.
Agree with everything Dame said.
Good they were able to be frank.
Hard to call it a "discreet" meeting when it's covered on ESPN.

 

[Scalma]

Thanks for sharing, good information.

Dame still sees himself as leader on the team.
Paul Allen is still somewhat engaged, but clearly less so - only attended one home game this year? I remember when he was an absolute fixture and often showed up on the road as well.
Agree with everything Dame said.
Good they were able to be frank.
Hard to call it a "discreet" meeting when it's covered on ESPN.

Allen has attended one game...in 2018. I tripped out at that line too until I read it again.

The guy I haven’t seen at any games lately is Olshey. Probably out scouting but I don’t remember him being mia as much last year.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Congrats to Stotts, it must be great to have the franchise leader go to bat for you directly to the owner.

I like Stotts so it's all good, but I'm surprised more on here aren't annoyed about it.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Dame loves Stotts cause he lets him jack up 30 footers with 20 seconds left on the shot clock with no consequences.

Congrats to Stotts, it must be great to have the franchise leader go to bat for you directly to the owner.

I like Stotts so it's all good, but I'm surprised more on here aren't annoyed about it.

MM said it all. Dame loves him so he's staying. The roster sucks so Stotts gets a pass from that as well.

 

[illmatic99]

Congrats to Stotts, it must be great to have the franchise leader go to bat for you directly to the owner.

I like Stotts so it's all good, but I'm surprised more on here aren't annoyed about it.

When Terry had a great roster with two legit all stars and terrific role players that all fit a system, he won 50+ games and had HCA.

With this mismash of "assets," Terry (and Dame/CJ) are doing the best they can. Terry has some glaring flaws, but his positives so far outweigh the negatives. Until we underachieve with a TEAM that is set up to succeed, Terry gets the pass from me.

 

[Scalma]

MM said it all. Dame loves him so he's staying. The roster sucks so Stotts gets a pass from that as well.

Stotts is far from perfect but he’s not the problem. He’s getting the best out of a flawed roster. That roster is on Olshey.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Stotts is far from perfect but he’s not the problem. He’s getting the best out of a flawed roster. That roster is on Olshey.

Mentioned that

 

[Sarni]

Would Cleveland give us Love, Shumpert and that sweet Brooklyn pick for CJ and Vonleh?

Then we could move Aminu to SF and plug planet Pat into the starting 2 guard spot.

It wouldn't be for this year, but that pick could either, A, net us a potential stud in the draft, or B, enable us to land a special wing via trade....

Meh, I'm not sure I like it, but it's a thought

I would do that in a heartbeat. I don't want Shumpert though, Love and Brooklyn pick for CJ and Vonleh is enough for me.

Cleveland won't part with the pick though, I think. I don't think the value of CJ is enough for them to do it, although maybe we could offer them CJ, Vonleh and Davis which would position them better for the challenge this year, and CJ would be a fairly decent building block for future.

Then with Brooklyn pick we should be able to get someone good. Even if it ends up no. 8 or 9, which is probably the worst case scenario looking at standings, it would be enough to get someone like Mikal Bridges or Kevin Knox, or trade for another proper great player in the Summer.

We would need to replace CJ currently so I'd offer Jazz Napier and a second round pick for Hood.

Lillard/Hood/Aminu/Love/Nurkic with the prospect of getting a top 8 pick and another pick in 13-18 range (our own) in 2018 draft is much better than what we are looking for right now. It's also a much more balanced roster.

 

[BlazerBeav]

Whoever guarded Murray last night got lit up.

Which is why you'd bring a double team, and force one of the other Nuggets (who combined to shoot 20-64) to take the damn shot! Terry Stotts and his stubborn defensive philosophy is going to kill me.

 

[joeBlazers]

The only way to get ride of our bad contracts is to get other bad contracts back. Many teams in the league have bad contracts.
Maybe we should trade with the Charlotte Hornets and get their pathetic contracts back ... Batum? Howard? for E.T. ? Mo H. ?
Could we trade Rich Cho for Neil O'Shea?

 

[Sarni]

The only way to get ride of our bad contracts is to get other bad contracts back. Many teams in the league have bad contracts.
Maybe we should trade with the Charlotte Hornets and get their pathetic contracts back ... Batum? Howard? for E.T. ? Mo H. ?
Could we trade Rich Cho for Neil O'Shea?

We are the victims of 2016 free agency but I'm surprised nobody saw this happening. Literally 90% of contracts handed out that Summer are complete nonsense while majority of contracts given last year were quite reasonable because teams realized they won't get extra $25M flying right into their cap space in the next years. Why a team like Denver could see this happening but not us? What was the logic behind giving a player who was out for most of season a $40M / 4 years contract when nobody else would have given him that, or offering Evan Turner $17M a year which even he was completely shocked about. You could maybe understand Crabbe's contract, they thought his potential was higher and so did the Nets which is why we managed to offload it, Harkless was reasonable but Leonard and Evan Turner was batshit mental.

 

[TBpup]

Congrats to Stotts, it must be great to have the franchise leader go to bat for you directly to the owner.

It's nice Dame gave Stotts a vote of confidence but that doesn't carry a tone of weight with me. Dame is loyal to whomever is around and sometimes his choices haven't been the best. He voiced support for Meyers before the Draft if I remember correctly and indicated he would like to bring in 'Melo.

I wonder what Dame thinks of Stotts refusing to double-team players like Cousins, Hardin, Murray etc when they are the only ones on their respective teams doing any damage and it costs the team games? Dame gets doubled/blitzed all the time when he doesn't have many options around him.

 

[tester551]

We are the victims of 2016 free agency but I'm surprised nobody saw this happening. Literally 90% of contracts handed out that Summer are complete nonsense while majority of contracts given last year were quite reasonable because teams realized they won't get extra $25M flying right into their cap space in the next years. Why a team like Denver could see this happening but not us? What was the logic behind giving a player who was out for most of season a $40M / 4 years contract when nobody else would have given him that, or offering Evan Turner $17M a year which even he was completely shocked about. You could maybe understand Crabbe's contract, they thought his potential was higher and so did the Nets which is why we managed to offload it, Harkless was reasonable but Leonard and Evan Turner was batshit mental.

We weren't victims.... NO was just stupid.
Dicipline is a rare trait. Our front office needs more of it.

 

[trailblazer18]

Which is why you'd bring a double team, and force one of the other Nuggets (who combined to shoot 20-64) to take the damn shot! Terry Stotts and his stubborn defensive philosophy is going to kill me.

Hindsight is always 20/20. If we bring up the double team then the other players are not going 20-64. They would have wide open looks, at least good looks at the basket.

 

[Denny Crane]

When Terry had a great roster with two legit all stars and terrific role players that all fit a system, he won 50+ games and had HCA.

With this mismash of "assets," Terry (and Dame/CJ) are doing the best they can. Terry has some glaring flaws, but his positives so far outweigh the negatives. Until we underachieve with a TEAM that is set up to succeed, Terry gets the pass from me.

I'm a Stotts fan, but I would think he had a lot of input into how the roster was constructed. Maybe this is a 35 win caliber team that's overachieving. Maybe it's a 50+ win team that's underachieving. Certainly guys are underachieving:

Mo
Aminu
Turner
Nurk (for a lot of games, at least)

Clearly there are guys who had a ton of talent when drafted who haven't developed (Vonleh, Leonard) as we expected.

I think we expected Swanigan to get rotation minutes. He's G league because Stotts isn't playing him.

 

[dviss1]

Dame specifically brought up the Barton trade and why was he traded? If that is any way true, you don't have to be fucking Yoda to figure out what Dame is suggesting.

Yoda in Olshey's office be like:

 

[Scalma]

I'm a Stotts fan, but I would think he had a lot of input into how the roster was constructed. Maybe this is a 35 win caliber team that's overachieving. Maybe it's a 50+ win team that's underachieving. Certainly guys are underachieving:

Mo
Aminu
Turner
Nurk (for a lot of games, at least)

Clearly there are guys who had a ton of talent when drafted who haven't developed (Vonleh, Leonard) as we expected.

I think we expected Swanigan to get rotation minutes. He's G league because Stotts isn't playing him.

He doesn’t. He’s said numerous times that he has very little to do with roster construction, and that his job is to coach.

The least Olshey could do is bring in players that fit Terry’s system but naw, those would probably require giving up something.

 

[Denny Crane]

He doesn’t. He’s said numerous times that he has very little to do with roster construction, and that his job is to coach.

The least Olshey could do is bring in players that fit Terry’s system but naw.

You don't think the two talk? And maybe talk about how we need another shooter or rebounder?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I wonder how Allen feels about this being leaked?