DC Tea Party video

[julius]

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[julius]

I find it interesting that the "preacher" who said 9/11 was a warning will never get the wide-spread vitriol that Jeremiah Wright got (granted, Wright is a loon), for basically saying the same thing.

One is that God was punishing us and it's our fault, the other is saying that the other countries is retaliating to our sticking our noses in their business.

Yet, the one that was actually more truthful (other countries retaliating) is admonished.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I think the ratio of insane people to sane people in this march is exponentially smaller than that of many of the borderline riotous crowds protesting against Bush and/or the war...

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I know you like to poke fun at anyone who believes in God and thinks everyone who opposes Obama is a racist, but the idea of less and more responsible taxation, to me, is a very valid point. As someone who worked for a few years in social services I was awe-struck by all the billions that is fully wasted in social services. You could not possibly comprehend how much unless you were directly involved.

That said, where does this grassroots group belong? The right is moving to the center and the left certainly disavows them.

Oh, I hope you made it to the bathroom in time!

 

[julius]

I think the ratio of insane people to sane people in this march is exponentially smaller than that of many of the borderline riotous crowds protesting against Bush and/or the war...

It's not a great thing for either side, when a camera is put in front of peoples faces (at protests, town meetings, etc). Partly because they suffer from camera shyness, and also because they actually don't understand what it is they're protesting about, just that they feel strange about something.

A lot of it is a horrible misunderstanding of facts and the issues.

The funny thing is, a lot of the protests of the war were not created by a media person (Glenn Beck in the case of the 9/12 protest). The people did have a lot of "we just think it's wrong, but I can't explain why" looks.

It's interesting that the same TV channel that was admonishing the protests of the left, is praising the protests of the right. And the protests are using the same tactics both times (a ton of ignorance, scaring people, Hitler references, confusion on what exactly is the difference (if in their eyes, there is one) between Socialism, Nazism and Fascism. They condemned the protests of Bush for labeling him as a Nazi or a "Terrorist" or a war criminal, but basically are saying "way to go!" to the right for doing the same thing to Obama.

The biggest issue isn't so much that there was a protest (of sorts) in WDC. The biggest issue is that those in power on the right, (and a certain television news channel who I will code name "Coyote") is taking advantage of the fears of these people, and using it for their own financial gain.

Hell, Glenn Beck, the guy behind the whole 9/12 thing, apparently wasn't even there.

For some people, and obviously not all, this is just a simple way to hide their hatred of the fact that the country is no longer full of people who resemble them, or talk with the same font as they do.

 

[julius]

I know you like to poke fun at anyone who believes in God and thinks everyone who opposes Obama is a racist, but the idea of less and more responsible taxation, to me, is a very valid point. As someone who worked for a few years in social services I was awe-struck by all the billions that is fully wasted in social services. You could not possibly comprehend how much unless you were directly involved.

That said, where does this grassroots group belong? The right is moving to the center and the left certainly disavows them.

Oh, I hope you made it to the bathroom in time!

where have I poked fun at anyone who believes in God? And the people I might have accused of being racist because they oppose Obama, tend to oppose him for incredibly stupid reasons. He's a "muslim" or he's not a 'real American'.

If someone is against taxes, I'm for those debates. But Obama (or Bush) dressed up as a Socialist, Nazi, or Fascist..or questioning his religion, or where he was born, has nothing to do with taxes.

 

[Eastoff]

I know you like to poke fun at anyone who believes in God and thinks everyone who opposes Obama is a racist, but the idea of less and more responsible taxation, to me, is a very valid point. As someone who worked for a few years in social services I was awe-struck by all the billions that is fully wasted in social services. You could not possibly comprehend how much unless you were directly involved.

That said, where does this grassroots group belong? The right is moving to the center and the left certainly disavows them.

Oh, I hope you made it to the bathroom in time!

I didn't really hear anyone say specifically "less and more responsible taxation" I heard more stuff about socialism and no bail out or health care.

skip to 8:30 for the "grass roots" message, aka Glenn Beck.

 

[MARIS61]

The tragic results of right-wing inbreeding.

Hard to believe these people can even function with so little brainpower.

 

[rocketeer]

It's interesting that the same TV channel that was admonishing the protests of the left, is praising the protests of the right. And the protests are using the same tactics both times (a ton of ignorance, scaring people, Hitler references, confusion on what exactly is the difference (if in their eyes, there is one) between Socialism, Nazism and Fascism. They condemned the protests of Bush for labeling him as a Nazi or a "Terrorist" or a war criminal, but basically are saying "way to go!" to the right for doing the same thing to Obama.

but you don't find it all interesting that all the people who praised the protests of the left are now admonishing the protests of the right?

 

[rocketeer]

I find it interesting that the "preacher" who said 9/11 was a warning will never get the wide-spread vitriol that Jeremiah Wright got (granted, Wright is a loon), for basically saying the same thing.

that's interesting to you? why? you're surprised that some unknown guy "preaching" in the street at this protest isn't going to get talked about as much as jeremiah wright who was the minister of a huge church in chicago and had been the president's pastor for 20 years?

 

[MARIS61]

but you don't find it all interesting that all the people who praised the protests of the left are now admonishing the protests of the right?

The left usually protests things which are obviously evil and wrong, like murder for profit by our government in Iraq, or graft in our government.

These teabag people are simple-minded racists, angry that their President is black, and can't even make up a plausible excuse for showing up when told to and parroting outrageous slogans as instructed by Fox TV/Rupert Murdoch.

 

[rocketeer]

The left usually protests things which are obviously evil and wrong, like murder for profit by our government in Iraq, or graft in our government.

These teabag people are simple-minded racists, angry that their President is black, and can't even make up a plausible excuse for showing up when told to and parroting outrageous slogans as instructed by Fox TV/Rupert Murdoch.

i see. if you're against it, it's evil and wrong. but if you're for it, the only way someone could disagree is if they were dumb and racist. awesome.

 

[MARIS61]

i see. if you're against it, it's evil and wrong. but if you're for it, the only way someone could disagree is if they were dumb and racist. awesome.

Yes, racism is evil and wrong.

Yes, if you're for it you're stupid and racist.

Amazing that you are having trouble grasping such simple concepts.

 

[yakbladder]

, but the idea of less and more responsible taxation, to me, is a very valid point.

Well then you'll be a fervent supporter of tax increases on the wealthy to balance the budget until we get up around 65% or so...Because right now Obama is doing better on taxes than 50 years of our income taxing history.

http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php

 

[rocketeer]

Yes, racism is evil and wrong.

Yes, if you're for it you're stupid and racist.

Amazing that you are having trouble grasping such simple concepts.

that has nothing to do with my post.

i guess i'll make it simple.

things you disagree with that the left protests, you call evil and wrong. but for the right to protest things that you agree with, the right has to be dumb and racist. it's great. that way you can pretend you're better than anyone who disagrees with you.

 

[blazerboy30]

Yes, racism is evil and wrong.

Yes, if you're for it you're stupid and racist.

Amazing that you are having trouble grasping such simple concepts.

The United States provides the most help for the needy around the world.

If our debt become so large we are no longer solvent, we can't continue.

If you support more debt, you are stupid, racist, and greedy.

Amazing that you are having trouble grasping such simple concepts.

 

[julius]

that's interesting to you? why? you're surprised that some unknown guy "preaching" in the street at this protest isn't going to get talked about as much as jeremiah wright who was the minister of a huge church in chicago and had been the president's pastor for 20 years?

Basically, one guy said that we deserved it and the other guy said we deserved it. Not sure how long they had been saying it matters.

I'd still considering saying that our government stuck it's nose into several other countries businesses, and it was coming back to bite us in the ass (which, despite the fact he said to so soon after 9/11, was and is true), is probably based more in truth then this having to do with Abortions and god being pissed.

but you don't find it all interesting that all the people who praised the protests of the left are now admonishing the protests of the right?

Actually, I'd say that those who were "praising" the left protesters, didn't actually praise them much. Other then just pointing out that they were protesting.

So, when Fox was calling them loons, unAmerican, and cut and runners, that's just a way of praising them.

 

[rocketeer]

Basically, one guy said that we deserved it and the other guy said we deserved it. Not sure how long they had been saying it matters.

I'd still considering saying that our government stuck it's nose into several other countries businesses, and it was coming back to bite us in the ass (which, despite the fact he said to so soon after 9/11, was and is true), is probably based more in truth then this having to do with Abortions and god being pissed.

you said it was interesting that the "preacher" would never get the wide spread vitriol that wright got. maybe if this "preacher" and wright were in similar positions you would have a point.

but when one is just some random guy in the streets of a protest while one is the long time pastor of a huge church in chicago who was the pastor of the president for 20 years, it seems fairly obvious why people care more about what one says than the other.

 

[bodyman5001]

The United States provides the most help for the needy around the world.

If our debt become so large we are no longer solvent, we can't continue.

If you support more debt, you are stupid, racist, and greedy.

Amazing that you are having trouble grasping such simple concepts.

Winner.

 

[rocketeer]

Actually, I'd say that those who were "praising" the left protesters, didn't actually praise them much. Other then just pointing out that they were protesting.

So, when Fox was calling them loons, unAmerican, and cut and runners, that's just a way of praising them.

you're almost as bad as maris.

obviously fox was not praising the protests of the left. you pointed out how it was interesting that fox would admonish the protests of the left but praise the protests of the right. i simply asked why you don't find it interesting that things happened the other way around as well(with people praising the protests of the left but admonishing those of the right).

 

[julius]

you're almost as bad as maris.

obviously fox was not praising the protests of the left. you pointed out how it was interesting that fox would admonish the protests of the left but praise the protests of the right. i simply asked why you don't find it interesting that things happened the other way around as well(with people praising the protests of the left but admonishing those of the right).

The protests of the left were hardly praised as being "true Americans", even by the more "liberal" news outlets. Even when their #'s were significantly larger than the 75K at this recent "protest", there wasn't the kind of praising that Fox is giving the 9/12 people.

 

[Eastoff]

I thought the point of the 9/12 supposedly, is to work together and promote progress like after 9/11? Shouting about the president being various negative things, doesn't sound like "working together". Or do i have the wrong premise of 9/12?

 

[julius]

I thought the point of the 9/12 supposedly, is to work together and promote progress like after 9/11? Shouting about the president being various negative things, doesn't sound like "working together". Or do i have the wrong premise of 9/12?

I believe that was the point. The concept is good, uniting a country together instead of just bickering, but the way that they went about conducting it, was poor and just propagated the same kind of divisive behavior they claim they're trying to rid the country of.

But it's kind of hard to take them (or anyone) serious when they have signs comparing Obama to Hitler, Nazi's, Socialist, Russians, Communists and Fascists, and implying he wasn't born here. Or can't name many (or any) of the programs he's proposed that they hate, or think calling someone a Czar is proof of anything more than just a government (and press) that is lazy about using someones whole title in their name.

I don't recall hearing many people calling GW Bush horrific names on 9/12, or accusing him of several things that are just factually untrue (those came years later, and were far more obvious in foreign countries than our own).

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I know you like to poke fun at anyone who believes in God and thinks everyone who opposes Obama is a racist, but the idea of less and more responsible taxation, to me, is a very valid point. As someone who worked for a few years in social services I was awe-struck by all the billions that is fully wasted in social services. You could not possibly comprehend how much unless you were directly involved.

That said, where does this grassroots group belong? The right is moving to the center and the left certainly disavows them.

Oh, I hope you made it to the bathroom in time!

Being involved in social services, you must realize that there are a lot of good people who actually need social services to get their life back on track.

There will always be those who take advantage of gov't money. I think unemployment benefits are incredibly abused by lazy and dishonest people out there, but that doesn't mean we should cut unemployment benefits.

I don't how we expect to fight a war and global recession and not expect taxes to go up. I don't believe cutting social services even more than they have already been cut is a good alternative to not increasing taxes.