Did we lose the Gary Trent Jr Trade?

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Undetermined.

Reactionary stuff is funny.

Moving on.
 
Norm is closer to being a two way player than Gary.....and Gary's offense was streaky last time he played in Portland...he had a long shooting slump. I'm happy we got Norm.
 
They got the promising young guy, we got the proven vet.

If you assume a "win now" deal was the right path for the Blazers, the deal was a push. Value for value and both teams should be happy.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yes. Because we should have dealt him for a position of need and not another short guard. Fire Neil.
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No because Powell makes a CJ trade possible. If we don’t re-sign Powell, CJ is a Blazer for life.
 
It's fun to look at but I wouldn't put too much stock into the DPOY tracker. GTJ isn't even the best defender on his own team (OG, Siakam, and arguably FVV are better).

GTJ signed a 2+1 deal with Toronto. Next year is his contract year. That'll be the year Toronto judges the deal by extending him or letting him hit free agency.

For now, I think Powell is giving you more than GTJ would. Probably? It's close. I don't see an L there.
 
wizenheimer said:
they are close. Powell of 18M/year; Trent for 17.3M/year

difference is Powell signed for 5 years and Trent for 3 years so Powell starts out slightly lower

but my point was that if Portland could afford Powell, they could afford Trent. That's not saying who was the best fit
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We don't know if Trent would've signed for the same $ he got in Toronto if we kept him. Maybe he would've got much more.
 
julius said:
Knockdown shooter?? He's shooting 43% from the floor and 35% from three.

Both are significantly worse than Norman. As is his scoring, and PER.
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Yup. Ridiculous thread. If 35% is "knockdown" then I wonder what Norm's shooting qualifies as... And he's comparing it to the Afflalo situation while also saying the reasons why it's silly to compare the two...
 
for his career, Trent is a 39% shooter from three. Now, since I don't know the definition of 'knockdown', I can't speak to that, but 39% is a pretty good conversion rate. That mark may be a reflection of the Portland system that allowed Trent to optimize his conversion rate; that's happened with other players under Stotts. Or maybe he just hasn't hit his stride yet in Toronto....or had one of those sustained hot streaks he had in Portland

that's only part of the Trent vs Powell equation though. Powell has a career TS% of .587; Trent is at .548; meaning Powell has been the better overall scorer. And scoring rate is more important than shooting rate, if you make those distinctions

neither Trent or Powell are good at playmaking or rebounding. They are both actually poor at those which explains why neither has a career PER 15.0, which is the league average

but Powell does something much better than Trent and for me, that's the tipping point in Powell's favor. Powell attacks the rim and he attacks it well. 33% of Powell's career shots have come at the rim (39% this season); only 10% of Trent's shots have come at the rim. That explains why Powell has a career FT Rate of 25% (34% this year) vs Trent's rate of 12%. Personally, I assign substantial value to those skills

defensively, I have not been impressed with Powell. But I wasn't impressed with Trent either. I thought his junkyard-dog defensive style, in Portland, was more style than substance. But supposedly he's been really good at defense for Toronto this year.
 
wizenheimer said:
for his career, Trent is a 39% shooter from three. Now, since I don't know the definition of 'knockdown', I can't speak to that, but 39% is a pretty good conversion rate. That mark may be a reflection of the Portland system that allowed Trent to optimize his conversion rate; that's happened with other players under Stotts. Or maybe he just hasn't hit his stride yet in Toronto....or had one of those sustained hot streaks he had in Portland

that's only part of the Trent vs Powell equation though. Powell has a career TS% of .587; Trent is at .548; meaning Powell has been the better overall scorer. And scoring rate is more important than shooting rate, if you make those distinctions

neither Trent or Powell are good at playmaking or rebounding. They are both actually poor at those which explains why neither has a career PER 15.0, which is the league average

but Powell does something much better than Trent and for me, that's the tipping point in Powell's favor. Powell attacks the rim and he attacks it well. 33% of Powell's career shots have come at the rim (39% this season); only 10% of Trent's shots have come at the rim. That explains why Powell has a career FT Rate of 25% (34% this year) vs Trent's rate of 12%. Personally, I assign substantial value to those skills

defensively, I have not been impressed with Powell. But I wasn't impressed with Trent either. I thought his junkyard-dog defensive style, in Portland, was more style than substance. But supposedly he's been really good at defense for Toronto this year.
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This. Powell attacks the basket like trent never and likely never will be able to.
This is going to give more fta to him as well.
To me its pretty clear who is the more valuable player for us.
 
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