Dime Asks Is Vince Carter a Hall of Famer?

[NJNetz]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Dime Magazine&rsquo;s Hall of Fame Watch takes a look at Vince Carter&rsquo;s chances for Springfield once his playing days are over. The pluses are his numbers are better than average for a HOF member and has a good chance at cracking 20,000 career points. The negatives are his admission that he sometimes didn&rsquo;t play as hard as he should. Missing from the analysis: his enormous popularity. The verdict? Take a look.</div></p>

Is Vince Carter a Hall of Famer?</p>

 

[pegs]

Possibly. Depends on how he ends his career.</p>

Obviously, if he somehow contributes on a team to win a championship, he'll make it. He could probably still do that, because he IS known as the guy who put Toronto on the map, and the guy who resurrected the Nets once they lost Kmart and Kittles.</p>

 

[CelticKing]

You're right Peg, it will depend on how he ends up his career. If he continues at the level he is right now for another 3 or 4 years, I say he'll make it.</p>

 

[GMJ]

There's really only been one sour spot on his resume, and thats the way he left Toronto. He was ridiculous in his prime. I'd say he's pretty much a lock</p>

 

[Dark Defender]

It is very hard to get in the HOF as a basketball player. IMO he has a good argument but I just don't see him in.</p>

 

[Black Republican]

If Dom is a HOF,why not VC15?</p>

 

[Universe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

If Dom is a HOF,why not VC15?</p>

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Just going to say a point simliar to that. Vince's dunks were a revolution in the basketball world just like Wilkins was. He also played extremly well but it's a toss up.</p>

 

[Black Republican]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

If Dom is a HOF,why not VC15?</p>

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Just going to say a point simliar to that. Vince's dunks were a revolution in the basketball world just like Wilkins was. He also played extremly well but it's a toss up.</p>

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Vince's career avg looks like dis: 24pg 5rb 4ast.He's only missin' a ring,Dom never got 1 neither.</p>

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[farouq710]

Vince's number's are very similar to alex english's numbers and dominique's so i don't see why he wouldn't get in. Vince was a large reason for a lot of people to come back to bball after Jordan left. On another note he has consistentlly been one of the best or the best at his position at different times in his career.</p>

 

[MaxaMillion711]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

There's really only been one sour spot on his resume, and thats the way he left Toronto. He was ridiculous in his prime. I'd say he's pretty much a lock</p>

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WAS ridiculous in his prime? Hate to break it to ya buddy, but as a guy who watched him/taped highlights all through his Toronto days, I can confidenly say this prime is going on right now. So is Kobe, so is Tmac, so is Pierce etc. He was more athletic for sure back then, but he didnt have the experience, the playmaking, the passing, the understanding of the game he has now. He has put all the pieces of his game that he learned in TO to use now.</p>

I think he left TO just why Kobe is leaving LA and why TMac demanded to be traded too. And do not bring up that 'interview' where he admitted he didnt always try. Did you see the follow up interview with Ahmad Rashad? Where they talked about how John Thomson called Vince after it aired and apologized? It was severely edited to make Vince look like he said that in response to "did you always try" or whatever. Vince said "the power of editing" when looking back at it. He also later said that he would "never disrespect the game like that" and that anyone who knows him knows that he would never say that.</p>

I watched every single game in his final years in TO and people in the organization were saying "he is a true leader for this team" and "gives it all every night" but TO fans needed a reason to hate him...just like they booed Damon....just like they booed TMac.... Of course I am biased because I am a VC fan for life but hey, thats just what I think. I do not expect to sway anyone's opinion on Vince. If you hate him, you hate him.</p>

But for what he did after MJ left, being the ambassador of the league, all the promotions while maintaining his dignity, wanting to win, leading the USA to 2 gold medals including being the MVP of the 2000 team (Kidd later said "Vince won that for us"), brining basketball to Toronto, becoming the leagues greatest dunker of all time after 3 years, all his charity work off the court, his embassy of hope, and for not Trashing TO at all after he left, being a class on and off the court...I could go on...I think he deserves to be in the hall of fame.</p>

Oh and, he is the reason I watched basketball in the first place.</p>

Peace</p>

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[GMJ]

I admittadely was only considering his 'highlight' plays; specifically his atheltic plays (dunks).</p>

I doubt there's anyone who has studied the art form of Vince Carter quite like maxamillion, I doubt I could support my knowlege of his game quite like he can.</p>

However this is a moot point, for throughout this thread I have always maintained that Vince belongs in the hall. It is good to see that regardless of the time period under scrutiny, he appeases those who would judge his legacy.</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GM3)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

It is very hard to get in the HOF as a basketball player. IMO he has a good argument but I just don't see him in.</p>

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Completely forgot about that. The HOF is fucked up, the voting's really messed up. Not a basketball player this year, just a bunch of coaches, refs, and a team. So fucked up. Adrian Dantley, Chris Mullin, Artis Gilmore are among those who deserve to be in there but for some reason aren't.</p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In the past decade, 25 coaches and nine contributors have been inducted into the Hall of Fame compared to only 20 players &hellip; and only four of those 25 coaches were from the NBA. In the same span that Jackson, Larry Brown, Alex Hannum and Bill Sharman were selected, Springfield has inducted eight NCAA women's coaches, four international coaches and one high school coach. Of the 20 players chosen in that span, only 14 were NBA alumni.</div></p>

That's pretty messed up, since it's the players who make the game. They should greatly outnumber those non-players.</p>

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...=nbashrineissue</p>

 

[Real]

His athletic prime has probably passed at the age of 30, but as far as his Basketball IQ is concerned, and overall play, he's most certainly in his prime, which is why the Nets extended him this past summer.</p>

Oh, and he can still dunk too. Pretty well as a matter of fact.</p>

Now as far as the HOF is concerned, you would think that because Nique would get in, VC would. But Nique never had the controversey surround him like VC did. I would bet my money that that has a significant effect on VC's chances at Springfield.</p>

 

[Black Republican]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

His athletic prime has probably passed at the age of 30, but as far as his Basketball IQ is concerned, and overall play, he's most certainly in his prime, which is why the Nets extended him this past summer.</p>

Oh, and he can still dunk too. Pretty well as a matter of fact.</p>

Now as far as the HOF is concerned, you would think that because Nique would get in, VC would. But Nique never had the controversey surround him like VC did. I would bet my money that that has a significant effect on VC's chances at Springfield.</p>

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He did,he never passed the 2nd round.</p>

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[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

His athletic prime has probably passed at the age of 30, but as far as his Basketball IQ is concerned, and overall play, he's most certainly in his prime, which is why the Nets extended him this past summer.</p>

Oh, and he can still dunk too. Pretty well as a matter of fact.</p>

Now as far as the HOF is concerned, you would think that because Nique would get in, VC would. But Nique never had the controversey surround him like VC did. I would bet my money that that has a significant effect on VC's chances at Springfield.</p>

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He did,he never passed the 2nd round.</p>

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I think he was referring to the whole Toronto thing, the way he left Toronto...the way he demanded for a trade, the way he "gave up", the way he played after his injuries in Toronto...so much bullshit that went on in Toronto.</p>

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[rory]

I doubt he'll make the Hall of Fame, but you never know...</p>