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sheed30 said:
we also beat a fully healthy team in GSW with Curry, Dray and Butler and also beat a fully healthy Denver team with Joker and crew.

Nice way to put a negative spin just like everything you post.

You guys are so fickle in here lol. Get way too high when we were winning early and now too low when we had some bad games.

It's good to be in the middle and not get too high or too low,, it's a nice place to be you guys should try it sometime.
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can you just step back a bit and drag your ass away from attack mode 100% of the fucking time? I almost never see you make a post without some kind aggression and antagonism directed toward other posters

again, some people were saying the reason for the recent losses were Portland injuries. That may be valid, to a degree; I was just pointing out that other teams are overcoming injuries and other factors may be at play

*Thybulle has played 4 games; Blazers are 2-2 with him but the last win he played less than 5 minutes
* Blazers are 4-2 with Wesley; IMO he's a bigger loss than Thybulle, because he and Jrue are the main point-of-attack defenders and was the backup PG. Obviously Camara is also a main point-of-attack defender but he seems to be off his game a bit so far. Portland has had bad luck at PG for sure

so far, out of the 7 Blazer players that play more than 20 minutes/game, there have only been 2 missed games: one by Jrue and one by Murray. So, in terms of missed games by starters:

OKC 25 missed games
Lakers 23
Spurs 9
Suns 9
Warriors 7
Denver 5
Minny 4 (all by Edwards)
Houston 3
Blazers 1

Wesley and Thybulle have missed 16 games combined, but Wesley was averaging 16 minutes and Thybulle averaging 12. Timelord is averaging 12.5. Obviously there's the Scoot factor, but again, Lebron hasn't played for the Lakers; Jalen Williams hasn't played for the Thunder. Scoot won't be a starter

after Portland's good start when their defense was intense and their transition offense was clicking, some of us mentioned that other teams were going to scout what Portland was doing and adjust their game plans. I think that's happened. A 5 game road trip to the eastern time zones is also a different situation than Portland's 1st eight games.
 
wizenheimer said:
can you just step back a bit and drag your ass away from attack mode 100% of the fucking time? I almost never see you make a post without some kind aggression and antagonism directed toward other posters

again, some people were saying the reason for the recent losses were Portland injuries. That may be valid, to a degree; I was just pointing out that other teams are overcoming injuries and other factors may be at play

*Thybulle has played 4 games; Blazers are 2-2 with him but the last win he played less than 5 minutes
* Blazers are 4-2 with Wesley; IMO he's a bigger loss than Thybulle, because he and Jrue are the main point-of-attack defenders and was the backup PG. Obviously Camara is also a main point-of-attack defender but he seems to be off his game a bit so far. Portland has had bad luck at PG for sure

so far, out of the 7 Blazer players that play more than 20 minutes/game, there have only been 2 missed games: one by Jrue and one by Murray. So, in terms of missed games by starters:

OKC 25 missed games
Lakers 23
Spurs 9
Suns 9
Warriors 7
Denver 5
Minny 4 (all by Edwards)
Houston 3
Blazers 1

Wesley and Thybulle have missed 16 games combined, but Wesley was averaging 16 minutes and Thybulle averaging 12. Timelord is averaging 12.5. Obviously there's the Scoot factor, but again, Lebron hasn't played for the Lakers; Jalen Williams hasn't played for the Thunder. Scoot won't be a starter

after Portland's good start when their defense was intense and their transition offense was clicking, some of us mentioned that other teams were going to scout what Portland was doing and adjust their game plans. I think that's happened. A 5 game road trip to the eastern time zones is also a different situation than Portland's 1st eight games.
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lol I just countered what you said in that we also beat two solid teams that was fully healthy and def playoff teams in the west.

Also why aren’t you mentioning Scoot missing games at all? Wesley might not even get playing time when Scoot is healthy as well.
 
Your mistake was being optimistic to begin with. Not sure why someone would be going into this season. Would be nice to have a rookie contributor to be excited about at least.
 
wizenheimer said:
can you just step back a bit and drag your ass away from attack mode 100% of the fucking time? I almost never see you make a post without some kind aggression and antagonism directed toward other posters

again, some people were saying the reason for the recent losses were Portland injuries. That may be valid, to a degree; I was just pointing out that other teams are overcoming injuries and other factors may be at play

*Thybulle has played 4 games; Blazers are 2-2 with him but the last win he played less than 5 minutes
* Blazers are 4-2 with Wesley; IMO he's a bigger loss than Thybulle, because he and Jrue are the main point-of-attack defenders and was the backup PG. Obviously Camara is also a main point-of-attack defender but he seems to be off his game a bit so far. Portland has had bad luck at PG for sure

so far, out of the 7 Blazer players that play more than 20 minutes/game, there have only been 2 missed games: one by Jrue and one by Murray. So, in terms of missed games by starters:

OKC 25 missed games
Lakers 23
Spurs 9
Suns 9
Warriors 7
Denver 5
Minny 4 (all by Edwards)
Houston 3
Blazers 1

Wesley and Thybulle have missed 16 games combined, but Wesley was averaging 16 minutes and Thybulle averaging 12. Timelord is averaging 12.5. Obviously there's the Scoot factor, but again, Lebron hasn't played for the Lakers; Jalen Williams hasn't played for the Thunder. Scoot won't be a starter

after Portland's good start when their defense was intense and their transition offense was clicking, some of us mentioned that other teams were going to scout what Portland was doing and adjust their game plans. I think that's happened. A 5 game road trip to the eastern time zones is also a different situation than Portland's 1st eight games.
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Focusing on Tou for a moment, I am wondering how much of an effect the Chauncey situation is having on him? Tou seemed to be his guy last year.
Any thoughts on that?
 
sheed30 said:
lol I just countered what you said in that we also beat two solid teams that was fully healthy and def playoff teams in the west.

Also why aren’t you mentioning Scoot missing games at all? Wesley might not even get playing time when Scoot is healthy as well.
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I talked about Scoot and his injury
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Focusing on Tou for a moment, I am wonder how bow much of an effect the Chauncey situation is having on him? Tou seemed to be his guy last year.
Any thoughts on that?
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that doesn't seem very credible. I guess maybe?

he was better on both ends of the court last season, but maybe the new systems on offense and defense have him out of sync. He's definitely in a shooting slump; maybe the rest of his game will improve if/when he starts shooting better
 
wizenheimer said:
that doesn't seem very credible. I guess maybe?

he was better on both ends of the court last season, but maybe the new systems on offense and defense have him out of sync. He's definitely in a shooting slump; maybe the rest of his game will improve if/when he starts shooting better
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I dont know. It seems he got most of Chaunceys praise last year and if it was CB helping Tou to be an elite lock down point of attack defender, maybe he is missing CB’s guidance? Im more concerned about his D than O.
 
If they win tonight I will feel better. All sports fans are bipolar about their team.
 
Does it make since the team should tank this year, as it certainly is a transition and next year will be under new ownership & coaching? I have not beenn huge on tanking but this year is different, at least in my mind.
 
Hoopguru said:
Does it make since the team should tank this year, as it certainly is a transition and next year will be under new ownership & coaching? I have not beenn huge on tanking but this year is different, at least in my mind.
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Yeah, then we can draft yet another player that can't shoot.
 
The only thing more ridiculous than having 4 PGs on your roster, is having 4 INJURED PGs on your roster. Preseason prognostications are stupid. We need to get at least SOME health before appropriately assessing the team.
 
I just can't get over how two weeks ago, we were looking deep and able to come at teams in waves - and that strategy is now completely dead. We can never have nice things!
 
Understand that the Blazers don't have enough talent to be competitive every night.

This team is simply not ready.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
The only thing more ridiculous than having 4 PGs on your roster, is having 4 INJURED PGs on your roster. Preseason prognostications are stupid. We need to get at least SOME health before appropriately assessing the team.
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Nah, I said 34 wins simply knowing that we are relying on players with no history of staying injury free. We had our rookie tossing a couple of nice dimes in a preseason games and some on here had us headed to the playoffs.
 
THE HCP said:
You new here?
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Nah, it's been this way for a while. We'll probably be this way for quite a bit longer because we did a half-assed tank.

But it's cool. Hopefully with new ownership we can make some trades and get lucky.
 
crandc said:
How many years of tanking are we supposed to accept? What is the reward for tanking this year that didn't happen last four?
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They cpould go after a legit shooter. The last few years 2 bigs that cant shoot.
 
Aside from being projected to be a .500 team or slightly below, understand that with Deni and Sharpe's newfound success, this team is more like Aldridge and Dame's first year together or when Brandon Roy and Aldridge had their first year as starters while Oden was hurt.

I don't know if Dame/Scoot returning fixes this. It's possible. I do wish Portland had that Pelicans pick as it's clear that the way the Rockets, Pistons, and Thunder made their massive jumps was due to having a variety of good picks to build off of. This allowed them to draft versatile teams.

Either way, once you see it like that, the solution is to wait for the stars to establish a pecking order and surround them with versatile help.

Also, people might be a little disappointed at Clingan. But I think a player like that just takes 3-4 years to develop. I compared him to Gobert when he was drafted. So, you have to look at Gobert. Took 2-3 years to develop but had major interior defensive stats and rebounding rates from the get go. Walker Kessler was similar and seemed like he was about to break out this season.....after a promising rookie year, a disappointing sophomore year, and an okay third year.

I do believe it'll be similar with Clingan. But you'll probably never expect a reliable offensive option from him beyond a 4th option.

Camara seems not himself. Maybe he is disinterested after getting paid or just saving up for a deep run later in the season but I always felt he was more of a Trevor Ariza and those who propped him up into something more will just have to temper their expectations. He's not an All-Star in the making nor is he very likely an OG Anudoby type that has 17ppg potential.

Going back to the Thunder, Rockets, and Pistons, you can also see they acquired good veterans, too. Caruso, Hartenstein, Tobias Harris, Duncan Robinson, Fred Van Vleet, KD.

Dame is that. But Portland probably needs one more guy in the front court that can make an impact.
 
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