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Lanny said:
It depends on the distance you are from the high voltage lines. The effect is proportional to the inverse of the distance squared.
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Paging Sir Isaac. Sir Isaac to a courtesy phone.
 
andalusian said:
Paging Sir Isaac. Sir Isaac to a courtesy phone.
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I read on Buzzfeed that that's one of 27 Newtonian myths that were totally DEBUNKED by Einstein.

And we're not calculating the effects of quantum mechanics. It's hard to take seriously any scientific observation that doesn't take into account relativity OR quantum mechanics. I'd like to believe the inverse square law, but we could be making this calculation much, much more difficult.
 
Minstrel said:
I read on Buzzfeed that that's one of 27 Newtonian myths that were totally DEBUNKED by Einstein.

And we're not calculating the effects of quantum mechanics. It's hard to take seriously any scientific observation that doesn't take into account relativity OR quantum mechanics. I'd like to believe the inverse square law, but we could be making this calculation much, much more difficult.
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I believe the correct word is not myth, but 'rounding'. Einstein's theories and formulas become Newtonian formulas when you are away from the calculus approaching zero elements. At the speeds / distances we observe as normal people, most of the complicated stuff in Einstein's general theory of relativity can be rounded off as (0 * complicated stuff).
 
andalusian said:
I believe the correct word is not myth, but 'rounding'. Einstein's theories and formulas become Newtonian formulas when you are away from the calculus approaching zero elements. At the speeds / distances we observe as normal people, most of the complicated stuff in Einstein's general theory of relativity can be rounded off as (0 * complicated stuff).
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I agree, it was a joke. That's why I said "we could be making this calculation much, much more difficult" with no added benefit, as though the added difficulty was an inherent benefit.

All of (or at least most of, but I think all) Newtonian physics can be recalculated using the math of relativity or even quantum physics, but it's entirely pointless for most problems we deal with on Earth. But technically, Newtonian mechanics are an older model that's very slightly less precise.

Admit it, my joke got funnier after two paragraphs of explanation.
 
andalusian said:
Paging Sir Isaac. Sir Isaac to a courtesy phone.
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No need to call an expert for a simple equation that I first learned in high school physics when I was 17. Surely there is no one in here who couldn't understand high school physics.
It's called the inverse square law and I'm including a link to a wikipedia discussion of how it works. Our problem with microwave energy can be exampled in the section dealing with Electrostatics:
"Electrostatics
The force of attraction or repulsion between two electrically charged particles, in addition to being directly proportional to the product of the electric charges, is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them; this is known as Coulomb's law. The deviation of the exponent from 2 is less than one part in 1015.
F = kq1q2/r2"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
 
Lanny said:
Let me know how you configure it. This is going to net you a Nobel prize.
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You know, just because Trump happens to mention something in passing doesn’t make it nuclear waste. A lot of these TDS types have a serious problem with going way overboard with their nitpicking of his statements. He’s probably already forgotten he even said it, meanwhile UV light now causes hair loss, cancer and lepracy according to all the professional outrage spreaders.
 
Should we be concerned about the number of satellites we put into space?
 
Lanny said:
No need to call an expert for a simple equation that I first learned in high school physics when I was 17. Surely there is no one in here who couldn't understand high school physics.
It's called the inverse square law and I'm including a link to a wikipedia discussion of how it works. Our problem with microwave energy can be exampled in the section dealing with Electrostatics:
"Electrostatics
The force of attraction or repulsion between two electrically charged particles, in addition to being directly proportional to the product of the electric charges, is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them; this is known as Coulomb's law. The deviation of the exponent from 2 is less than one part in 1015.
F = kq1q2/r2"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
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I was talking about my mechanic, Sir Isaac.

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jonnyboy said:
You know, just because Trump happens to mention something in passing doesn’t make it nuclear waste. A lot of these TDS types have a serious problem with going way overboard with their nitpicking of his statements. He’s probably already forgotten he even said it, meanwhile UV light now causes hair loss, cancer and lepracy according to all the professional outrage spreaders.
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It's a child like fantasy to think that anyone could flood the body internally with UV light. It's simply not feasible to any but the most slow witted among us.
 
Lanny said:
It's a child like fantasy to think that anyone could flood the body internally with UV light. It's simply not feasible to any but the most slow witted among us.
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The idea is to run blood through a UV filter externally then return it to the body, similar to a transfusion. A little research can do wonders, rather than just calling everyone stupid because you don’t understand what they’re saying.
 
jonnyboy said:
The idea is to run blood through a UV filter externally then return it to the body, similar to a transfusion. A little research can do wonders, rather than just calling everyone stupid because you don’t understand what they’re saying.
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I love how Trump supporters have tried their best to find ways that Trump's comments could actually be genius, only to get undercut by Trump himself when he said he was being sarcastic. It's very committed of you to continue to try to explain "what he really meant" even after he said he was just being sarcastic and "saying it to reporters like you to see what would happen."
 
andalusian said:
I was talking about my mechanic, Sir Isaac.

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Is he European, because some of that nomenclature is strictly European.
jonnyboy said:
The idea is to run blood through a UV filter externally then return it to the body, similar to a transfusion. A little research can do wonders, rather than just calling everyone stupid because you don’t understand what they’re saying.
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UV light will not penetrate the blood or did you consider that?
No, there's no doubt about it, Trump is stupid.
 
Minstrel said:
I love how Trump supporters have tried their best to find ways that Trump's comments could actually be genius, only to get undercut by Trump himself when he said he was being sarcastic. It's very committed of you to continue to try to explain "what he really meant" even after he said he was just being sarcastic and "saying it to reporters like you to see what would happen."
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I didn’t say shit about “what he really meant”. That’s just you putting quotation marks around something you pulled out of your ass. UV light has proven to be antiseptic. There are people in the medical field not named Donald Trump experimenting with it right now. I was speaking about that.
 
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Lanny said:
Is he European, because some of that nomenclature is strictly European.

UV light will not penetrate the blood or did you consider that?
No, there's no doubt about it, Trump is stupid.
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Trump mentioned something in passing that he has no knowledge about, end of story.

UV light did nothing to you, please quit using it as a punching bag with Trumps face on it.

You guys are so fucking disgruntled it’s beyond crazy.
 
jonnyboy said:
Trump mentioned something in passing that he has no knowledge about, end of story.

UV light did nothing to you, please quit using it as a punching bag with Trumps face on it.

You guys are so fucking disgruntled it’s beyond crazy.
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I'm not the one continually bringing up the UV light. I am just responding to it.
I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. I'm just doing what I've been trained to do all my life and that's troubleshoot technical issues.
I'd develop a little more alligator skin of you're going to get upset with criticism of Trump. I use to get pissed off at rude people in high level meetings I use to have. My boss told me about the alligator skin thing. I've tried to develop an insensitivity to that sort of thing.
 
Lanny said:
I'm not the one continually bringing up the UV light. I am just responding to it.
I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. I'm just doing what I've been trained to do all my life and that's troubleshoot technical issues.
I'd develop a little more alligator skin of you're going to get upset with criticism of Trump. I use to get pissed off at rude people in high level meetings I use to have. My boss told me about the alligator skin thing. I've tried to develop an insensitivity to that sort of thing.
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Noted.
 
I have a hippie pal who is absolutely convinced from his new age tribe that 5G will be the end of us all. @Lanny or someone - would you know of a good basic article or video I could point him to to show that that is silly thinking?
 
Lanny said:
No need to call an expert for a simple equation that I first learned in high school physics when I was 17. Surely there is no one in here who couldn't understand high school physics.
It's called the inverse square law and I'm including a link to a wikipedia discussion of how it works. Our problem with microwave energy can be exampled in the section dealing with Electrostatics:
"Electrostatics
The force of attraction or repulsion between two electrically charged particles, in addition to being directly proportional to the product of the electric charges, is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them; this is known as Coulomb's law. The deviation of the exponent from 2 is less than one part in 1015.
F = kq1q2/r2"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
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I studied physics.
 
Minstrel said:
9G.

"Normal humans can withstand no more than 9 g's, and even that for only a few seconds."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/star-wars-science-light-speed/
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Thank god we are only at 5G now, but we need to take action to prevent 9G right away.

We have to immediately screen the population for those who show an interest in telecommunications.

Those who test positive can be quarantined until the interest goes away; if this is not sufficient we may need to develop an in-utero test for this and terminate pregnancies with that type of defect.

barfo
 
Stevenson said:
I have a hippie pal who is absolutely convinced from his new age tribe that 5G will be the end of us all. @Lanny or someone - would you know of a good basic article or video I could point him to to show that that is silly thinking?
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I would think that it would depend on which 5G technology you were using. If it's Chinese, I would be concerned. If it's American or European, I would be less concerned. However, it is the wave of the future.
 
crandc said:
I studied physics.
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Me too. Just 12 quarter hours of it for me, though unless you want to count the 1 hour of Environmental Impact Statement that I had in the physics building. Had 15 hours of chemistry and more electric field theory in my EE course work than you can shake a stick at which included Maxwell's equations. Took a four hour course in EE called Electric Field Theory which was pretty rigorous during my junior year. We had a Fortrran IV problem where we had to describe the electric field between two coaxial conductors that were both square in shape only rotated 90 degrees from each other using an iterative method to arrive at a solution. That program was four years of hell. I was more proud of that degree than my Computer Science degree where I had to design a working compiler and that was also pretty damn difficult.
 
I had a year of physics as part of getting biology degree.

Actually used calculus to work out area of irregular front yard.
 
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