Do you think the NBA is a fair game?

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Is the NBA a fair game?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 15.7%

  • No

    Votes: 35 68.6%

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Denny Crane said:
I didn't say they were. But if you are rude to the refs, they might not give you some close calls. Ya know?
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But the clippers AREN'T nice to the refs and they DO get the close calls.

I'm confused.
 
If Clippers are so good at getting calls, how did they choke against Houston and how have the Clippers never been to WCF Ever?
 
Natebishop3 said:
The refs had just helped give Houston the lead. Lillard hit that shot to win the game/series. If he had missed, we would have been going back to Houston.
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If I remember correctly, Parsons tipped in a shot to get the lead. What did the refs do and why did they allow it to be so close?
 
If real life was like NBA Officiating:

Police Dispatcher: 911, What is your emergency?

Joe Schmoe: Help! My house has been robbed! You gotta send someone out right now. They took nearly everything I own! Please help me!

Police Dispatcher: Okay sir calm down, Could you give me your home address please?

Joe Schmoe gives the police dispatcher his address, it is in a low income neighborhood.

Police Dispatcher: Well no wonder you got robbed. That is a terrible neighborhood. Why don't you live in one of the nicer neighborhoods with the gated communities? If you had lived there you might not have gotten robbed sir.

Joe Schmoe: What? It's all I can afford to live right now

Police Dispatcher: Oh, so you don't make a lot of money then sir.(Dispatcher says it more as a declaration rather a question.)

Joe Schmoe: What does how much I make and where I live have anything to do with what happened to me? I was robbed and most of my belongings are gone! A crime was committed! Please send the police so I can file a report!

Police Dispatcher: Sir you should have expected being robbed due to the neighborhood you are in and done more to safeguard yourself from something like this. My advice to you is get a better job and make more money so you can move to a better neighborhood where this won't happen to you. Have a great day sir.

Police Dispatcher hangs up the phone.

Joe Schmoe: What the fuck!!??

*Part 1 of 2
 
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Blazers have been getting screwed for years. Sheed had enough and dipped and won a ring. Aldridge had enough and dipped to san Antonio. Thats why I love lillard. I think he sees the refs hate portland but he says fuck it id rather play for the red headed stel child team than have shit handed to me.

Thats why as much as I hate reggie miller I still give props. He stuck it out with another team that isnt among the chosen ones with big kia contracts, knowing he had pretty much no chance of ever seeing a title.

If it wasnt for the blazers, id stop watching the nba. To me the blazers are like stone cold Steve austin, sure I know the wwe is fake, but the texas rattle snake is a bad ass.

Bottom line I think is certain players land contracts and im pretty sure nba doe its best to put them in tbe spotlight for the advertisement money. They've tried desperately to push anthony davis they just cant get that whole shitty team to compete. I think the nba is biased, not completely rigged, but deffinitely try to push certain teams/players/ads/agendas/stories. Soon it could be as horrible as the wwe became.
 
Natebishop3 said:
But if Dame hadn't hit a miracle shot with .9 seconds left, the refs WOULD have forced a game seven.
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This. The refs tried. If you watch before the shot...the refs screwed us on several plays that allowed the Rockets to take the lead, but Dame have them the finger put up the shot, a shot even the refs couldn't contest
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
If I remember correctly, Parsons tipped in a shot to get the lead. What did the refs do and why did they allow it to be so close?
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Before that play...Lillard got a fair rebound and the refs said he was about of bounce or some other stupid shit...and it should have been Blazers ball, but they gave it to the Rockets to try and help them win...but dame ruined it for them
 
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Kingspeed two words: Tim Donaghy...refute that
 
JFizzleRaider said:
The NBA wasn't behind him. He did that on his own for betting reasons.

Players in the NBA could be doing that in any game played too.
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The NBA shut that up pretty quick
 
Look whether the refs are doing it for their own gain, or the NBA is condoning / controlling it, it is happening...and if the NBA is not behind it...why have they let it go on when supposedly every game is reviewed....why?
 
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Some of you guys have been reading the book 1984 lately I see.

If the NBA rigged the games, why wouldn't the Lakers and Knicks win more? Those are the leagues prized franchises.

Why the hell would they let a team like Detroit win? Or the spurs multiple times? The spurs are a smaller market than the blazers and tim.duncan is one of the most boring superstars ever to play (the guy has the personality of a pet rock)?
 
The Spurs: because of names like Greg popovitch, Tony Parker, Tim Duncan...

You think Detroit will win the series against Cleveland....won't happen...it won't be allowed....watch the end of game 1....Detroit got reffed

Also they can't just have the same two teams every single year in the finals or the same matchups in the conference finals...people would get bored....they have to keep it interesting plus plausible deniability.
 
Pop doesn't like the media. Duncan has the personality of a pet rock. Tony Parker isn't even very good anymore. None of those guys have been very marketable and San Antonio is a small market. It makes no sense at all. That's one of the last teams they would want to win. Multiple times.

Detroit obviously will lose this year. Cleveland is one of the top 5 teams in the league. I'm talking about Detroit winning the title with a bunch of blue pail guys. No major superstar and Detroit is a total shit city.

It's not rigged guys. Stop with the conspiracy stuff.
 
They need advanced stats for refs. You could easily come up with formulas to figure out which refs favor good teams and which refs favor big markets.
 
I guess it's hard not to be biased when you are a ref....you are going to favor the team(s) you like. If I was a ref the Blazers would win every game I officiated
 
BonesJones said:
They need advanced stats for refs. You could easily come up with formulas to figure out which refs favor good teams and which refs favor big markets.
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With the stats as they are now it doesn't show the whole picture...along with team, personal, and technical fouls, they need colomns for shooting/ on the floor fouls...then everyone would see it...as it is you have to have watched the game and witnessed it...or go back and watch games..
 
Strenuus said:
But the clippers AREN'T nice to the refs and they DO get the close calls.

I'm confused.
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IDK, I don't think the Clips go all Rasheed Wallace or John McEnroe on the refs. They aren't all that adversarial. They just complain and whine on EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION that doesn't go their way, and half the ones that do. And Glenn whines their ears off during time outs. It just wears the refs down to the point that consciously or unconsciously the refs give them favorable calls. Popovich used to do the same thing, but he has the refs so well trained now he mostly sits back and enjoys the spoils of their operant conditioning, only administering the occasional "correction" to reinforce their training.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Anybody that would

I read the book.
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Yeah it was originally called Blowing The Whistle: The Culture of Fraud in the NBA...he tells it all...and NBA threatened to sue ( though they deny this as they are trying to dismiss his book )
 
All right I'm gonna run for office and take on the NBA
 
Damian Lillard calls timeout and it is granted. After the whistle is blown DeAndre Jordan procedes to snatch the ball out of his hand yanking his right shoulder.

Easy Tech.

Chris Kaman lightly holds DeAndre Jordan and the foul is called. After the whistle is blown Jamal Crawford intentionally shoves Chris in the back.

Easy Tech.

Doc Rivers calls timeout and does not spend any of that time out with his team. He spends the entire time out having a heart to heart with one of the referees.

Are you fucking kidding me?? This is never supposed to happen even on an NBA level. If a Coach calls timeout and walked out to the floor to me, I quickly walk his ass right back to his bench and let him know that if he called time out to have a conversation with me that he wasted his time out.

This shit looks more and more rigged by the day.
 
RipCityDSCPL said:
If real life was like NBA Officiating:

Police Dispatcher: 911, What is your emergency?

Joe Schmoe: Help! My house has been robbed! You gotta send someone out right now. They took nearly everything I own! Please help me!

Police Dispatcher: Okay sir calm down, Could you give me your home address please?

Joe Schmoe gives the police dispatcher his address, it is in a low income neighborhood.

Police Dispatcher: Well no wonder you got robbed. That is a terrible neighborhood. Why don't you live in one of the nicer neighborhoods with the gated communities? If you had lived there you might not have gotten robbed sir.

Joe Schmoe: What? It's all I can afford to live right now

Police Dispatcher: Oh, so you don't make a lot of money then sir.(Dispatcher says it more as a declaration rather a question.)

Joe Schmoe: What does how much I make and where I live have anything to do with what happened to me? I was robbed and most of my belongings are gone! A crime was committed! Please send the police so I can file a report!

Police Dispatcher: Sir you should have expected being robbed due to the neighborhood you are in and done more to safeguard yourself from something like this. My advice to you is get a better job and make more money so you can move to a better neighborhood where this won't happen to you. Have a great day sir.

Police Dispatcher hangs up the phone.

Joe Schmoe: What the fuck!!??

*Part 1 of 2
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*Part 2 of 2

If real life was like NBA Officiating:

Police Dispatcher: 911, What is your emergency?

Fortune 500 CEO: Help! My house has been robbed! You gotta send someone out right now. They took nearly everything I own! Please help me!

Police Dispatcher: Okay sir calm down, Could you give me your home address please?

Fortune 500 CEO gives police dispatcher his address, it is in a highly recognized,affluent, gated community.

Police Dispatcher: That is horrible sir! The police are on there way to the address you provided and will be their shortly for you to file a police report sir.

Fortune 500 CEO: Thank you so much for all your help.

Police Dispatcher: Just doing my job sir. Have a great day sir.

Police Dispatcher hangs up the phone.

Fortune 500 CEO: What a bunch heroes we have protecting us.


Care to guess which part represents teams like the Blazers and which part represents teams like the Clippers?

Bottom line, the more respected and well known you are the more protected and catered to you are by authority.
 
The NBA is driven by personalities and you have to have more than one star to win. The fans respond to stars. The owners respond to the stars. And the REFS respond to the stars. We have Dame but he doesnt get the respect of a signature star. He's not viewed in the same way as Stephen Curry or CP3 or Tim Duncan. Dame makes up for his lack of exposure with brilliant marketing and leadership ability. But the league doesn't give him or his team that same deference. And I doubt they ever will. No. It's not fair. But who said pro sports was supposed to be fair? The Blazers aren't able to get the best free agents..... The Ducks don't recruit a concensus top ten football recruiting class....That's the way it is. Just be glad we are competative and that we have a team.
 
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