Does 8th seed prevent NO from trading CJ?

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Does 8th seed at the trade deadline tie the Blazers hands?

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e_blazer said:
Maybe if he agrees to change his first name to Fred and keeps Meyers as his middle name, he might be able to get a Blazers sponsor to cover part of his new salary.
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The more I think about it, why shouldn't players be able to work a deal to rename themselves to pick up sponsorship dollars? If it works for the teams to sell the name of the arenas, why shouldn't players be able to cash in. What do you think Dame could get to rename himself Damian Lillard Adidas and put Adidas on the back of his jersey?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Maybe so, but if he gets an offer in the 12-13 range, and we match, it's going to be even harder to trade him.

Don't forget, the Thunder are paying Kanter max money because of us. I could see someone doing the same with Meyers.
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Yeah there is no way I would match that amount. He would not handle the pressure from the fans in living up to that contract. I am sure he wants the most he can get, but I think he would be better off in the long run being a role player off the bench and getting paid like one. (Which still will be 7-8 million per)

I always think about Greg Ostertag for Utah. He went from a fan favorite to the butt of every joke immediately after signing a big contract and not living up to it. He did not handle it well.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah there is no way I would match that amount. He would not handle the pressure from the fans in living up to that contract. I am sure he wants the most he can get, but I think he would be better off in the long run being a role player off the bench and getting paid like one. (Which still will be 7-8 million per)
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If Meyers continues to improve (or better yet at least doesn't decline) then I could go as high as 10 MIL a year on average. John Henson signed a deal for 11 MIL a year. Cap is going up and people are going to overspend... I just want the option to match. Not saying we have to match something outrageous (definitely not matching MAX!). Plus, remember, we would sign our new incoming free agents (that we hopefully get) before dealing with Meyers.

With that said, I would deal Meyers for sure in the right deal. All about options...
 
e_blazer said:
Wookees must have lung conditions. Apparently, they speak like Stevie on "Malcolm in the Middle." Three (gasp). Different (gasp). Questions (gasp)."
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I hate that little dude! He made that show painful to watch, lol...
 
All this talk is way to early. We don't know what Meyers will be at the end of the season. Golden State has two great guards and a Unicorn (Draymond). Portland has two very good guards (who need to step up the D a bit) and potentially a similar Unicorn (Vonleh) and another true Unicorn (Leonard)--neither of which is even close to his ceiling. A big part of me hopes that Olshey holds pat and these guys continue to become who they could be. I'm not sure this team is missing any pieces if Leonard, Vonleh and Crabbe continue to grow. This team fits together so nicely, they just need a bit more from the young guns and that could be enough.
 
Reep said:
All this talk is way to early. We don't know what Meyers will be at the end of the season. Golden State has two great guards and a Unicorn (Draymond). Portland has two very good guards (who need to step up the D a bit) and potentially a similar Unicorn (Vonleh) and another true Unicorn (Leonard)--neither of which is even close to his ceiling. A big part of me hopes that Olshey holds pat and these guys continue to become who they could be. I'm not sure this team is missing any pieces if Leonard, Vonleh and Crabbe continue to grow. This team fits together so nicely, they just need a bit more from the young guns and that could be enough.
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So based on the fact that you said that GSW has two "great" guards, and we only have two "very good guards," are you saying that Klay is better than Dame?

I'm just asking for a friend.
 
Trade CJ? The reasoning is to save a draft pick? Explain the odds that what ever pick we end up with being better than CJ.....jeesh
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Trade CJ? The reasoning is to save a draft pick? Explain the odds that what ever pick we end up with being better than CJ.....jeesh
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Not really, it could be CJ for a former lottery pick (Okafor?) + not losing this years pick, + cap space to sign someone?
 
Turning down a good trade just so you can try to back into the 8th seed with a sub .500 record?

That would be utter lunacy.
 
Another CJ trade post. ugh.

Schilly said:
CJ becoming a dynamic back court mate to Dame prevents NO from trading CJ.
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Exactly, give these guys a year or two. That mesh of skills between the two is not as overlapped as people think. Dame is killer in pick and roll, and is a far better passer. CJ owns the midrange. Their combo is absolutely sick. Don't break it up before we see that they'll actually fail.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So based on the fact that you said that GSW has two "great" guards, and we only have two "very good guards," are you saying that Klay is better than Dame?

I'm just asking for a friend.
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I like Dame and CJ. Steph is better than Dame on both sides of the ball, and Klay is close but different than CJ on offense, but much better on defense--for now.
 
I don't think Olshey is thinking very far into the future; I think he wants a team by next year that can win at least one playoff series. I think the only way he would trade CJ now or later is as part of a trade for a guy who makes an immediate impact; somebody who is as good or better than anyone now on the roster.
 
e_blazer said:
The more I think about it, why shouldn't players be able to work a deal to rename themselves to pick up sponsorship dollars? If it works for the teams to sell the name of the arenas, why shouldn't players be able to cash in. What do you think Dame could get to rename himself Damian Lillard Adidas and put Adidas on the back of his jersey?
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Hell, Might as well get Nike Tattooed to the forehead and look for a contract...
 
Ok look this is a simple thing.... The primary goal of a rebuild is to bring in young players that can eventually given a reasonable window of time be a competitive team. Once the roster is populated as such there is no benefit to taking a potential step backwards. The way Neil has built this team and the way it is progressing organically this team is competing for a playoff spot realistically 2 years ahead of schedule. The core is basically <25 . The other thing that is vital us chemistry this team has grown together as a team, its a big risk to make a big adjustment that shakes that up much.

Lets look at the Okafor "idea" yes we get a little younger yet, and we get a guy with a lot of potential, this is a trade I would consider for CJ, but what is the ramifications?

A: We now have to start Henderson or Crabbe and Frazier then needs to be in the top 8 of the rotation.
B: We lose 1 pt per 36, and 3ast per 36 but gain 4rp36
C: We create a massive Log Jam at the 4/5 positions, especially with Vonleh starting to really show competence.
 
No, what prevents New Oreleans from trading CJ is that he is not a member of their team.
 
CJ being one of the best young players in the league prevents NO from trading him.
 
Reep said:
All this talk is way to early. We don't know what Meyers will be at the end of the season. Golden State has two great guards and a Unicorn (Draymond). Portland has two very good guards (who need to step up the D a bit) and potentially a similar Unicorn (Vonleh) and another true Unicorn (Leonard)--neither of which is even close to his ceiling. A big part of me hopes that Olshey holds pat and these guys continue to become who they could be. I'm not sure this team is missing any pieces if Leonard, Vonleh and Crabbe continue to grow. This team fits together so nicely, they just need a bit more from the young guns and that could be enough.
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Needs more likes.

They just need to grow their horns!
 
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