Does 8th seed prevent NO from trading CJ?

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Does 8th seed at the trade deadline tie the Blazers hands?

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BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Well here's another, would you trade CJ for Simmons?
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No. Unproven talent as much as there may be is still just that. Simmons might not come out and dominate the league. Kid want's to be a Laker, forgets the old adage "Be careful what you wish for, it might come true."
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Well here's another, would you trade CJ for Simmons?
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Hell no...I watched one of his games recently and I don't get the hype honestly...he's good, he's not a difference maker on the NBA level from the small sample size I got from one LSU game...reminds me Allan Crabbe was Pac 12 player of the year...didn't make him the next MJ
 
riverman said:
Hell no...I watched one of his games recently and I don't get the hype honestly...he's good, he's not a difference maker on the NBA level from the small sample size I got from one LSU game...reminds me Allan Crabbe was Pac 12 player of the year...didn't make him the next MJ
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He has inside, outside, ball handling and length. He is at worst going to be a more consistent Batum.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
He has inside, outside, ball handling and length. He is at worst going to be a more consistent Batum.
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I have no doubt he'll be an NBA rotation player at some point, but CJ is starting quality right now and has chemistry with the roster...I would not trade CJ for a high draft pick period. College ball is pretty weak this season.
 
The Bulls traded away Elton Brand, a young PF with 20/10 numbers and ROY award for the right to draft Tyson Chandler. Chandler, they said, had way more upside. A legit 7' guy who'd be the PF next to Eddy Curry for a decade+.

Chandler is still in the league, but he never put up 20/10. His 3pt shot disappeared as a pro. His hands are small and he fumbles the ball a lot. A terrible trade.

We know what we have in CJ. We don't need to trade him for a Tyson Chandler.

.400 and trying to win builds a winning culture. If you play to lose, the goal will be to pad stats, and you won't see these guys suddenly deciding to run back on defense or do other things winners do.

Losing, even big, in the playoffs is valuable experience. But they do have to play the games. 41-41 Bulls team took the defending champs to 7 games and several thrilling OT nail biters. I'd rather see them play the games than concede defeat.

Go Blazers!
 
Denny Crane said:
The Bulls traded away Elton Brand, a young PF with 20/10 numbers and ROY award for the right to draft Tyson Chandler. Chandler, they said, had way more upside. A legit 7' guy who'd be the PF next to Eddy Curry for a decade+.

Chandler is still in the league, but he never put up 20/10. His 3pt shot disappeared as a pro. His hands are small and he fumbles the ball a lot. A terrible trade.

We know what we have in CJ. We don't need to trade him for a Tyson Chandler.

.400 and trying to win builds a winning culture. If you play to lose, the goal will be to pad stats, and you won't see these guys suddenly deciding to run back on defense or do other things winners do.

Losing, even big, in the playoffs is valuable experience. But they do have to play the games. 41-41 Bulls team took the defending champs to 7 games and several thrilling OT nail biters. I'd rather see them play the games than concede defeat.

Go Blazers!
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I'd say Chandler had a better career than Brand. The real crime was Curry lol
 
Denny Crane said:
The Bulls traded away Elton Brand, a young PF with 20/10 numbers and ROY award for the right to draft Tyson Chandler. Chandler, they said, had way more upside. A legit 7' guy who'd be the PF next to Eddy Curry for a decade+.

Chandler is still in the league, but he never put up 20/10. His 3pt shot disappeared as a pro. His hands are small and he fumbles the ball a lot. A terrible trade.

We know what we have in CJ. We don't need to trade him for a Tyson Chandler.

.400 and trying to win builds a winning culture. If you play to lose, the goal will be to pad stats, and you won't see these guys suddenly deciding to run back on defense or do other things winners do.

Losing, even big, in the playoffs is valuable experience. But they do have to play the games. 41-41 Bulls team took the defending champs to 7 games and several thrilling OT nail biters. I'd rather see them play the games than concede defeat.

Go Blazers!
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You just said earlier that you would trade CJ for Okafor if that was an option. Change of heart the minute we are projected to be in the playoffs? If so then I certainly don't blame you as it would no doubt drop us back out of contention but that is a pretty quick reversal of thoughts.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I'd say Chandler had a better career than Brand. The real crime was Curry lol
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Brand was a big 3 player on a terrific Kings team. Chandler got traded for 39 year old PJ Brown.

Sure, I'm happy to trade PJ Brown for Chandler.
 
I said before that Nic Batum would carry the load against Memphis in the playoffs and become an allstar as a Blazer....ask me today..different perspective
 
Denny Crane said:
The Bulls traded away Elton Brand, a young PF with 20/10 numbers and ROY award for the right to draft Tyson Chandler. Chandler, they said, had way more upside. A legit 7' guy who'd be the PF next to Eddy Curry for a decade+.

Chandler is still in the league, but he never put up 20/10. His 3pt shot disappeared as a pro. His hands are small and he fumbles the ball a lot. A terrible trade.

We know what we have in CJ. We don't need to trade him for a Tyson Chandler.

.400 and trying to win builds a winning culture. If you play to lose, the goal will be to pad stats, and you won't see these guys suddenly deciding to run back on defense or do other things winners do.

Losing, even big, in the playoffs is valuable experience. But they do have to play the games. 41-41 Bulls team took the defending champs to 7 games and several thrilling OT nail biters. I'd rather see them play the games than concede defeat.

Go Blazers!
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Great post Denny.

I'd add that making the playoffs is also a good way to get attention around the league. If you aren't playing late April, then you probably have the TV on to watch some of the playoffs. I'd imagine a lot of players watch the playoffs in their off season.

''There's no such thing as bad publicity'', if the Blazers make the playoffs and get blown out, they would still be on Free Agents minds. If the Blazers make the playoffs and find a way to win 1 or 2 when everyone thinks they should be swept, then you start really turning heads and guys start wondering if maybe Portland isn't the place for them to take their careers to the next level. Sounds like a big win to me if you have guys wanting to come play along side the second best (could become the best) back court in the NBA.
 
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Wow. First time I agree with DC. Building a winning culture is as important as acquiring talent. Building talent in a losing culture doesn't necessarily improve the W-L ratio. I've said this numerous times. Some of the best teams I've ever followed were simply teams with great chemistry that played above their individual talent. For opposite examples, look at some of the Portland teams that were loaded with talent and couldn't win - sadly, this franchise has many examples of such.
 
Denny Crane said:
Yeah, Clippers.
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When he was on the Clippers he only had one year where they made the playoffs. They were 47-35, 6th seed but took the Suns to 7 games in the second round (played the 44-38 Nuggets in the first round who were the third seed by division rule I guess).

I wouldn't say they were terrific outside of one season and that was only because of playoff success.
 
Denny Crane said:
Okafor is proven.
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I agree and this is actually the most interesting CJ trade idea you could come up with. I think Okafor is a legitimate future Hall-Of-Fame prospect. But then again so many are, and not everybody gets there.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
When he was on the Clippers he only had one year where they made the playoffs. They were 47-35, 6th seed but took the Suns to 7 games in the second round (played the 44-38 Nuggets in the first round who were the third seed by division rule I guess).

I wouldn't say they were terrific outside of one season and that was only because of playoff success.
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They had numerous injuries, no? That franchise was cursed.

Brand did have 8 straight seasons with a PER over 20 and 2+ blocks/game on defense.

Chandler was traded for PJ Brown. And later by the Mavs for 2 second round picks.
 
Denny Crane said:
They had numerous injuries, no? That franchise was cursed.

Brand did have 8 straight seasons with a PER over 20 and 2+ blocks/game on defense.

Chandler was traded for PJ Brown. And later by the Mavs for 2 second round picks.
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Chandler for PJ Brown may be the worst trade ever. I also believe it was a S&T when the Mavs dealt him, idk why the Mavs ever let him go in the first place... He was the #2 reason why they won a title. He did however win a DPOY in New York.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Chandler for PJ Brown may be the worst trade ever. I also believe it was a S&T when the Mavs dealt him, idk why the Mavs ever let him go in the first place... He was the #2 reason why they won a title. He did however win a DPOY in New York.
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I said it was Sac that was the really good team. It was Brad Miller, another ex Bull, I was thinking of.

Chandler simply is a one dimensional player, who is nowhere near the best at any nba skill.

The Bulls had seen enough of Chandler. He just wasn't very good. The coach played Antonio Davis over him.
 
Denny Crane said:
The Bulls traded away Elton Brand, a young PF with 20/10 numbers and ROY award for the right to draft Tyson Chandler. Chandler, they said, had way more upside. A legit 7' guy who'd be the PF next to Eddy Curry for a decade+.

Chandler is still in the league, but he never put up 20/10. His 3pt shot disappeared as a pro. His hands are small and he fumbles the ball a lot. A terrible trade.

We know what we have in CJ. We don't need to trade him for a Tyson Chandler.

.400 and trying to win builds a winning culture. If you play to lose, the goal will be to pad stats, and you won't see these guys suddenly deciding to run back on defense or do other things winners do.

Losing, even big, in the playoffs is valuable experience. But they do have to play the games. 41-41 Bulls team took the defending champs to 7 games and several thrilling OT nail biters. I'd rather see them play the games than concede defeat.

Go Blazers!
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Bulls Drafted Chandler second after making this trade with the Clippers.
Chandler played 5 seasons in Chicago, never averaging double figures in either points or rebounds. Brand of course was a 20/10 guy for the next 6 seasons.
 
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Denny Crane said:
Making this trade isn't playing to lose.
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Compared to CJ it sure is this year. And in the future it is certainly debatable. Okafor grades out as worst big man defender in the league. You can't win if you give up more points per minute than you score which is where he is currently.
 
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