Does 8th seed prevent NO from trading CJ?

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Does 8th seed at the trade deadline tie the Blazers hands?

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How about the real question being... if the Blazers are able to continue at a place that lands them in the playoffs, after being expected to be a bottom 5 team, coupled with nearly $40mill in cap space, would they become and interesting destination for upper level free agents? Especially when you factor the age of the core and the fact that the bulk of it is under contract for the next season already.
 
Scalma said:
Hell no to trading CJ. Hell no to tanking. The only way tanking would be worth it is if you're getting Simmons, Ingram, or Brown, and that ain't happening. Tanking is stupid anyways. Name one team in the past decade that's won a championship with a team built from tanking. Look at some of the recent teams that have tanked. 6ers have a bunch of lottery picks, yet no stars and they still suck. Wolves suck. Magic suck. I'll take the 8th seed over the 8th pick in the draft thank you very much.
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Tanking teams mean losing culture which ruins young guys development
 
Schilly said:
How about the real question being... if the Blazers are able to continue at a place that lands them in the playoffs, after being expected to be a bottom 5 team, coupled with nearly $40mill in cap space, would they become and interesting destination for upper level free agents? Especially when you factor the age of the core and the fact that the bulk of it is under contract for the next season already.
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This is the hope right? Best case scenario. Internal young talent develops and attracts one good free agent who puts them over the top. Normally I would be discouraged by Portland's record of attracting big free agents. But, I think Olshey levels the playing field a bit. He might be able to get it done.
 
Im going to go on a limb here and point out that the Blazers likely aren't in the playoff hunt without CJ's leap in development.
 
Wouldn't trade cj for ben Simmons? Lol ok. I would. Easy.

I'll take the risk of a prospect with his potential over CJ, because there's only one or two players in the league like him if he pans out. There are plenty of CJs
 
Scalma said:
Wouldn't trade cj for ben Simmons? Lol ok. I would. Easy.

I'll take the risk of a prospect with his potential over CJ, because there's only one or two players in the league like him if he pans out. There are plenty of CJs
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I generally feel the same, I just wish CJ wasn't so loveable on and off the court lol
 
Ben Simmons looks like he will be an incredible NBA talent. Assuming he has an outside shot. Without it he will just be average.

I keep reading that there are plenty of CJ's out there, but when I think about how many we have had in the last 10 years, the list is pretty short IMO. Having said that....... Simmons would be hard to pass up. Although it is a moot point because no shitty team is going to pass on him. (i.e Philly or the Lakers)
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I agree and this is actually the most interesting CJ trade idea you could come up with. I think Okafor is a legitimate future Hall-Of-Fame prospect. But then again so many are, and not everybody gets there.
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Seriously doubt he's a "legitimate future Hall-Of-Fame prospect," he's definitely got great touch, good, skilled, beyond his years, & polished on the offensive end but defense... don't know if he'll ever have the motor/desire to b a do it all kind of a big man. You want to talk unquestioned "Hall-Of-Fame prospect... (guy's flat out a Hall Of Famer)" Karl Anthony Towns; he's THE man now & he's just a rookie/kid right NOW; this guy's got exceptional court-vision, decision-making, great attitude/patience, & skills already not to mention he's being mentored by KG (which I hate BUT respect...).
 
Schilly said:
How about the real question being... if the Blazers are able to continue at a place that lands them in the playoffs, after being expected to be a bottom 5 team, coupled with nearly $40mill in cap space, would they become and interesting destination for upper level free agents? Especially when you factor the age of the core and the fact that the bulk of it is under contract for the next season already.
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I believe Dame is a HUGE factor in attracting/raising eyebrows of these kinds of players; Dame's proven even in this small market, u can make a BIG name for yourself AND get paid.

Also, just because a player plays for a team in a particular city, that doesn't mean they have to stay there the entire yr. Lots of guys have a house(s) where they really enjoy living; during the season, it's pretty much basketball (during games, practice, & training so not much time for much else; outsiders a lot of the time put too much emphasis on whether a player fits a particular town; as long as they fit the team, THIS is MOST important; however, obviously I'd love if a player fits P-town & it's culture too:wink:).

Oh, but to answer the question... HELL yeah "upper level free agents" r now going to want to come here!:ygrin:
 
0-Our! said:
I believe Dame is a HUGE factor in attracting/raising eyebrows of these kinds of players; Dame's proven even in this small market, u can make a BIG name for yourself AND get paid.

Also, just because a player plays for a team in a particular city, that doesn't mean they have to stay there the entire yr. Lots of guys have a house(s) where they really enjoy living; during the season, it's pretty much basketball (during games, practice, & training so not much time for much else; outsiders a lot of the time put too much emphasis on whether a player fits a particular town; as long as they fit the team, THIS is MOST important; however, obviously I'd love if a player fits P-town & it's culture too:wink:).

Oh, but to answer the question... HELL yeah "upper level free agents" r now going to want to come here!:ygrin:
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I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's wishful thinking.
 
Strenuus said:
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's wishful thinking.
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I hear ya & maybe so:wink: Now is James/his level going to want to come here... I'm not sure but I actually feel pretty good about a difference maker(s) willing to come here these days.
 
I'm not a fan of tanking for a pick but...

I can see how trading CJ for a draft pick this year or a young, future stud kills two birds with one stone.

Trading CJ for potential would both make us bad enough to stay in the lottery and we'd get the pick that we traded CJ for.

That would get us two top 10 picks in this draft.
 
Yeah... that's the recipe for success. Trade CJ, your franchise player's best friend. Not to mention, CJ actually wants to be here. He wants to stay and build with Damian. This is his first opportunity to really play and he's killing it. There's no evidence that suggests we can't win with Dame and CJ in the backcourt. It's bull. You don't trade a budding star in CJ and ruin your relationship with your franchise player to add a guy who MIGHT become just as good in a few years time. The franchise player and the entire team stops playing when they see a GM & Coach trying to sabotage their chances at winning.

CJ goes nowhere. Sorry to break it to you guys.
 
AmirIcon said:
Yeah... that's the recipe for success. Trade CJ, your franchise player's best friend. Not to mention, CJ actually wants to be here. He wants to stay and build with Damian. This is his first opportunity to really play and he's killing it. There's no evidence that suggests we can't win with Dame and CJ in the backcourt. It's bull. You don't trade a budding star in CJ and ruin your relationship with your franchise player to add a guy who MIGHT become just as good in a few years time. The franchise player and the entire team stops playing when they see a GM & Coach trying to sabotage their chances at winning.

CJ goes nowhere. Sorry to break it to you guys.
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This I agree with. I have been off the CJ trade train for weeks.

Meyers, on the other hand....
 
blazerboy30 said:
I'm not a fan of tanking for a pick but...

I can see how trading CJ for a draft pick this year or a young, future stud kills two birds with one stone.

Trading CJ for potential would both make us bad enough to stay in the lottery and we'd get the pick that we traded CJ for.

That would get us two top 10 picks in this draft.
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It would also save salary for future free agents.

But I'm not in favor of trading him for unproven draft picks.
 
Technically no one is untouchable for the right player. But I am totally against trading a really good player who we can lock up for another 6 years for a pick. Maybe if you knew for sure what the pick was, but that would mean that the trade would have to occur in June and not during the season. For all we know we could trade CJ to a team who promptly wins enough games to move up a few spots. And even then you never know how the ping pong ball will bounce.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Technically no one is untouchable for the right player. But I am totally against trading a really good player who we can lock up for another 6 years for a pick. Maybe if you knew for sure what the pick was, but that would mean that the trade would have to occur in June and not during the season. For all we know we could trade CJ to a team who promptly wins enough games to move up a few spots. And even then you never know how the ping pong ball will bounce.
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For the most part I agree with you.

But remember that the trade would potentially result in trading CJ for two draft picks, not one.
 
blazerboy30 said:
For the most part I agree with you.

But remember that the trade would potentially result in trading CJ for two draft picks, not one.
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Besides Simmons and Ingram who are you that excited about in this draft?
 
A short article about CJ on RealGM.com today -
CJ McCollum Has Become One Of NBA's Best Midrange Shooters
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He's attempted the 12th most mid-range shots in the league and has the highest field goal percentage of anyone in the NBA who has taken at least 250 such shots.
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A good GM always has to be willing to listen to trade ideas. With that being said, I'd hate to lose CJ. He's become a top level starter, a good teammate, and a good character guy. If we're looking at trade ideas, it better be a no-brainer where we kill the other team.
 
42N8Bounce said:
A short article about CJ on RealGM.com today -
CJ McCollum Has Become One Of NBA's Best Midrange Shooters
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A good GM always has to be willing to listen to trade ideas. With that being said, I'd hate to lose CJ. He's become a top level starter, a good teammate, and a good character guy. If we're looking at trade ideas, it better be a no-brainer where we kill the other team.
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Love the mid range game. We'd be stupid to give that up. Compliments Dame nicely.

All we need to address is our defense.
 
blazerboy30 said:
I'm not a fan of tanking for a pick but...

I can see how trading CJ for a draft pick this year or a young, future stud kills two birds with one stone.

Trading CJ for potential would both make us bad enough to stay in the lottery and we'd get the pick that we traded CJ for.

That would get us two top 10 picks in this draft.
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there's about a 20% one of the two draft picks ends up as good as CJ
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Besides Simmons and Ingram who are you that excited about in this draft?
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Like I said, I don't support trading CJ and tanking for a pick. I'm just pointing out that I can see why others think it's a good long term move.
 
blazerboy30 said:
Like I said, I don't support trading CJ and tanking for a pick. I'm just pointing out that I can see why others think it's a good long term move.
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I understand it as well. I am just trying to figure out who everyone is excited about. Simmons, Ingram (Who I have not actually seen play), and Hield all seem pretty good.
No one else I can see will improve us. But I am sure there a few out there.
 
I just don't understand why we don't try and build up from here instead of building down to try to build up...
 
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