Does Batum make you forget Outlaw?

[CanadianBlazer]

With the way he has been playing lately? Do you think he is stepping his game up since Travis left?

 

[Natebishop3]

Outlaw who?

 

[julius]

Outlaw who?

Bo.

 

[Natebishop3]

Bo.

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[Nate4Prez]

Do you think he is stepping his game up since Travis left?

Batum was always better than Travis. Travis made him self forgettable.

 

[Natebishop3]

Batum is not one-dimensional. Outlaw..... is.

 

[J_Ray]

Travis made him self forgettable.

Is that because he didn't play most of the season?

 

[LameR]

It's too early to tell, but he's doing a good job so far. With Webster's struggles, it would almost be better to have Travis than Webster, but that's not how it works.

 

[Sex Panther]

Batum is not one-dimensional. Outlaw..... is.

And even if Batum were one-dimensional, i'd still take the one-dimensional defender over the one-dimensional....Outlaw

 

[STOMP]

from day 1 Nic was the best Blazer SF. I'm recalling back and forths with some here just a month back saying that Martell had cemented the 3 spot as his and Nic would have to scrap for any minutes. My how things change eh?

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[Natebishop3]

from day 1 Nic was the best Blazer SF. I'm recalling back and forths with some here just a month back saying that Martell had cemented the 3 spot as his and Nic would have to scrap for any minutes. My how things change

STOMP

I don't remember, was I one of those people? lol

I don't think I was.... I think I've supported Batum as our starter, but I had held out hope that Webster could be a solid rotation player.

 

[illmatic99]

I don't think I've ever seen this community so in favor of a Blazer. Everyone loves Nic.

Except for maybe B-Roy and MIXUM, but it's close.

 

[Nikolokolus]

No. Dante made me forget about him

 

[Nikolokolus]

I don't think I've ever seen this community so in favor of a Blazer. Everyone loves Nik.

Except for maybe B-Roy and MIXUM, but it's close.

Ah shucks, guys I'm moved.

 

[Sex Panther]

No. Dante made me forget about him

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[STOMP]

It's too early to tell, but he's doing a good job so far. With Webster's struggles, it would almost be better to have Travis than Webster, but that's not how it works.

you think it would be better to have the guy who's best play for his entire career has been off the bench backing up the clear cut starter rather then the guy who has consistently struggled off the bench???

I've been a broken record on that point all season

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[Nikolokolus]

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Everbody loves Ha Sueng-Jin.

 

[STOMP]

I don't remember, was I one of those people? lol

I don't think I was.... I think I've supported Batum as our starter, but I had held out hope that Webster could be a solid rotation player.

I don't think you were either, but I could look it up if you like

actually I'm off to the GF's place so that sort of fun would have to wait until tomorrow

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[julius]

Everbody loves Ha Sueng-Jin.

The best thing about that picture is the uniforms.

 

[mook]

Batum is the guy we all dreamed Outlaw would be five years ago.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Batum is the guy we all dreamed Outlaw would be five years ago.

I've never dreamed about Outlaw. To each his own.

 

[Entity]

I wish Outlaw the best. I hope Nic plays here a long time.

 

[andalusian]

Batum is the guy that makes me forget about Webster.

I still think we could use Outlaw when the scoring dries, but Batum is fantastic.

 

[oldmangrouch]

you think it would be better to have the guy who's best play for his entire career has been off the bench backing up the clear cut starter rather then the guy who has consistently struggled off the bench???

I've been a broken record on that point all season

STOMP

Silly wabbit. Stop making sense!

 

[mook]

There were at least two plays in the third quarter I saw where guys passed up shots and you could just feel they were thinking to themselves, "It's not a bad shot, but I'll bet Batum is more likely to score." And they passed it to somebody else who would then pass it to Batum.

It'll be interesting to contrast the lasting impact between Batum's 31 point game and Bayless'.

I like Bayless a lot, but I think there's more of a flash-in-the-pan element to his career night. He'll put up a few high scoring games over the remainder of the season. But when you get down to it, he draws fouls but he's only a 41% shooter.

But with Batum the FG% is astoundingly high. He's at 56%, which is obscene for any forward (let alone small forward), and especially so for one who takes a lot of three pointers. When a guy with that kind of FG% goes for 31, you have to start realizing he's an option on pretty much every play where he's in the game.

 

[MIXUM]

wackiest season ive ever seen. hands down.

but batum has to do it every night not just here and there.

 

[mook]

I've never dreamed about Outlaw. To each his own.

Man, I don't know how you couldn't. The first year or two, his athleticism just utterly amazed me. That he could reach up so high to block a shot...jeez, I remember thinking all the time "If the dude could just learn to be a basketball player. Holy shit."

And then, without me even noticing, I found myself saying, "Damn, he's such an amazing shooter. If only he could use that athleticism and play a little defense, and maybe grow a few brain cells about playing a team game...."

I've always felt that Damon Stoudamire was utter horse shit. Except one time. He once said that Outlaw would be a star if he could just put it all together. I've always felt exactly that way.

That's what I'm talking about with Batum.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Man, I don't know how you couldn't. The first year or two, his athleticism just utterly amazed me. That he could reach up so high to block a shot...jeez, I remember thinking all the time "If the dude could just learn to be a basketball player. Holy shit."

And then, without me even noticing, I found myself saying, "Damn, he's such an amazing shooter. If only he could use that athleticism and play a little defense, and maybe grow a few brain cells about playing a team game...."

My problem is that I'm too cynical. Where you say "Wow, if only...!" I'm saying, "Yeah, great, except..." For me, Outlaw ever being more than a bench player was always long odds. It took me until this year (you know, when he was traded) to decide that he was more valuable to this team than Webster. Prior, he was (for me) nothing more than "that skinny guy who jumps high to do nothing."

 

[Nikolokolus]

wackiest season ive ever seen. hands down.

but batum has to do it every night not just here and there.

Well counting tonight and last night, pretty much makes it here and there.

 

[mook]

Well, in his first few years I'd say you were overly cynical if you were saying, "Yeah, great, except that 18 year old can't...." I mean jeez...

But around the age of 21 or so, I can certainly empathize a lot more with your cynicism. I wasn't there myself, but I can understand it more.

It took me until this year (you know, when he was traded) to decide that he was more valuable to this team than Webster.

Webster's breakout January was the only time I've ever really questioned myself about the endless Webster vs Outlaw debate. I've always been pro-Outlaw. At least until Batum showed me, at 19, what I'd been hoping to see from Travis for six long years.