Politics DON-TROCITIES (4 Viewers)

[MickZagger]

Nothing will change economically in this country until the workers have more clout and cut into the discrepancy in pay from the CEO and shareholders.

I mean I understand why people are fed up. But Trump will do nothing but worsen that. I mean look at who had prime seats at his inauguration. The top billionaires. Like it’s something for him to brag about?

Trump exploits people and preys on their vulnerabilities. He in essence got elected by propagandizing the American people. It was all just a pile of propaganda and unfortunately we live in a country primarily compromised of stupid people. As harsh as that is, it’s so true. Science is the enemy, education is the enemy. The ilks of Marjorie Taylor Greene actually have a place in our society. You know we’re fucked at that point.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

The lesser of two evils is not in office. Billionaires now on the inside and out aren't going to urge us to do anything except follow them mindlessly.

Blue was the lesser of two evils. And people were sleeping through it. Billionaires aren't going to do our work for us. They were funding team Blue more than team Red. It's time to wake up.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Hopefully. But damn, man, at what cost?

A better future.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

You thought the divide was bad already....

I'm hoping the acceleration will spur people into action instead of sleeping through the "blue no matter who" garbage.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

and Trump capitalized on it only to further the divide. I give Trump props only in the fact that he knows how to exploit the vulnerable and naive. It’s been his business model for decades.

You act as if the other side wasn't exploiting people. To simplify it, both sides are using their base's fear and anger to their own advantage. With no intent on fixing a thing.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I didn't say otherwise. The push from the wealthy has been encroaching on the middle class for decades. There has been some push-back from both Dems and Republicans.

There will be no push-back with Trump. Our only hope is that Dems can mount stiff enough opposition and that Trump can't get rid of enough guardrails to completely destroy this country.

The "pushback" you speak of has been entirely performative. At least with Trump he's putting it out with no blurred lines.

 

[MickZagger]

You act as if the other side wasn't exploiting people. To simplify it, both sides are using their base's fear and anger to their own advantage. With no intent on fixing a thing.

Look at the legislation that was passed while Biden was in office. Far more stuff being passed to help the average American than Trump could ever dream of. I’m appalled this is even an argument you’re making.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

It absolutely mattered his first 4 years. I expect it will matter even more these coming 4 years.

Hopefully it will wake enough people up to force real change for the better...

That's my hope. Trump will accelerate wherever we're going which is more likely to bring about change. Either way with either party, the current conditions are damn near unlivable.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Look at the legislation that was passed while Biden was in office. Far more stuff being passed to help the average American than Trump could ever dream of. I’m appalled this is even an argument you’re making.

Incrementalism is what they want to sell you. And you're defending it? I feel sorry for you. And the election is proof it was insufficient.

 

[Phatguysrule]

That's my hope. Trump will accelerate wherever we're going which is more likely to bring about change. Either way with either party, the current conditions are damn near unlivable.

Here's hoping...

 

[MickZagger]

Incrementalism is what they want to sell you. And you're defending it? I feel sorry for you. And the election is proof it was insufficient.

Incrementalism? lol

He saved thousands of Teamsters pensions and the dipshits still voted against him. You can’t win against stupid. You act like the people who voted for him are nuanced in what you call “incrementalism”.

It was a campaign based completely in fear and propaganda.

They ate that bullshit with a spoon and it doesn’t surprise me one bit. The average Trump voter couldn’t tell you what State they border.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Incrementalism? lol

He saved thousands of Teamsters pensions and the dipshits still voted against him. You can’t win against stupid. You act like the people who voted for him are nuanced in what you call “incrementalism”.

It was a campaign based completely in fear and propaganda.

They ate that bullshit with a spoon and it doesn’t surprise me one bit. The average Trump voter couldn’t tell you what State they border.

I'm sorry, but saving those pensions does not give Biden a pass to take billions from citizens to give to foreign countries while enabling a genocide.

The sooner you stop looking at Trump voters as your enemy and understand that you share the same struggles, the sooner this country can defeat the corrupt suits in Washington and get back to taking care of its people.

 

[Chris Craig]

Blue was the lesser of two evils. And people were sleeping through it. Billionaires aren't going to do our work for us. They were funding team Blue more than team Red. It's time to wake up.

Still is the lesser of two evils.

Sure, but like I said the billionaires he is filling his cabinet with aren't going to do anything to help us. Both teams were funded by the billionaires. Trump just got the poor to pay his way, so the billionaires have to pay less to get their way.

I agree it's time to wake up. Hopefully, these next four years do that. Hopefully, in two the Dems can take back Congress.

 

[MickZagger]

I'm sorry, but saving those pensions does not give Biden a pass to take billions from citizens to give to foreign countries while enabling a genocide.

The sooner you stop looking at Trump voters as your enemy and understand that you share the same struggles, the sooner this country can defeat the corrupt suits in Washington and get back to taking care of its people.

Dude, you and this humanitarian plea. I agree with you that war is awful. It’s a noble cause you’re arguing but war has been just a way of life in that region for what seems like thousands of years. It’s awful.

If you think Trump thinks of anything but his own interests or has a humanitarian bone in his body this is already a lost cause conversation.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Still is the lesser of two evils.

Sure, but like I said the billionaires he is filling his cabinet with aren't going to do anything to help us. Both teams were funded by the billionaires. Trump just got the poor to pay his way, so the billionaires have to pay less to get their way.

I agree it's time to wake up. Hopefully, these next four years do that. Hopefully, in two the Dems can take back Congress.

We're saying the same things and you're not understanding that.

I have said repeatedly that blue is the lesser of two evils. Billionaires don't have a party. None will help you.

 

[MickZagger]

We're saying the same things and you're not understanding that.

I have said repeatedly that blue is the lesser of two evils. Billionaires don't have a party. None will help you.

Billionaires know that the Republicans are easier to manipulate.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Dude, you and this humanitarian plea. I agree with you that war is awful. It’s a noble cause you’re arguing but war has been just a way of life in that region for what seems like thousands of years. It’s awful.

If you think Trump thinks of anything but his own interests or has a humanitarian bone in his body this is already a lost cause conversation.

"Just a way of life" because apathetic cowards let it be as long it's not your kid. If that's your answer, then don't come around asking for my vote. It's that simple. I won't participate and I have zero problem with it. Instead of beefing with me, you should be beefing with the party officials you give a pass to.

I've already spoken at length regarding Trump's lack of morals. You can't keep referring to Trump when people ask you "what are YOU for?" You're as morally bankrupt as a Trump voter I'd say, two sides of the same coin.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Billionaires know that the Republicans are easier to manipulate.

You're naive and gullible.

 

[Chris Craig]

We're saying the same things and you're not understanding that.

I have said repeatedly that blue is the lesser of two evils. Billionaires don't have a party. None will help you.

The first post of yours I replied to seemed to say otherwise.

But, if we agree we agree.

 

[MickZagger]

You're naive and gullible.

Lolz

 

[MickZagger]

"Just a way of life" because apathetic cowards let it be as long it's not your kid. If that's your answer, then don't come around asking for my vote. It's that simple. I won't participate and I have zero problem with it. Instead of beefing with me, you should be beefing with the party officials you give a pass to.

I've already spoken at length regarding Trump's lack of morals. You can't keep referring to Trump when people ask you "what are YOU for?" You're as morally bankrupt as a Trump voter I'd say, two sides of the same coin.

It’s Americans problem is a typical cop out for the religious wars..

Guess what, America is no longer a religious country.

The practice of extinguishing their problems these days is done more for political leverage than it is for doing what’s right.

I care not to get sucked into your guilt trap.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Lolz

As substantive as your grasp on politics.

 

[MickZagger]

As substantive as your grasp on politics.

Your grasp of politics begins and ends with guilt tripping a thousand year religious war.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

It’s Americans problem is a typical cop out for the religious wars..

Guess what, America is no longer a religious country.

The practice of extinguishing their problems these days is done more for political leverage than it is for doing what’s right.

I care not to get sucked into your guilt trap.

LMAO "religious wars." The 1990's wants its talking points back.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Your grasp of politics begins and ends with guilt tripping a thousand year religious war.

Yours begins and ends on guilt tripping us about a reality show star.

 

[MickZagger]

LMAO "religious wars." The 1990's wants its talking points back.

I miss the 90’s.

Keep beating that Trump drum. This will end up ugly.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I miss the 90’s.

Keep beating that Trump drum. This will end up ugly.

Me or you? I didn't vote for him.

 

[MickZagger]

Me or you? I didn't vote for him.

We have 2 options. I’ll always choose the lesser of two evils

 

[Strenuus]

A better future.

THIS IS A BETTER FUTURE?

 

[Phatguysrule]

We have 2 options. I’ll always choose the lesser of two evils

I'll choose who I want most. Unless I need to choose the lesser of two evils to prevent catastrophe.