Donovan Clingan Appreciation Thread

[BassPlaya]

Is he considered better than Eddy or whatever his name is yet?

Now that's goddamned funny right there............

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Everytime I check the boxscore these days, Clingan is in the minus and Rob is way in the plus. He doesn't seem to be helping us out there.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Is he considered better than Eddy or whatever his name is yet. Seemed like there were those out there who even at the beginning of this season felt he wasn’t.

He's certainly better than Edy while Edy is out injured. Which is possibly most of his career, given foot issues for giants are not good.

 

[wizenheimer]

Everytime I check the boxscore these days, Clingan is in the minus and Rob is way in the plus. He doesn't seem to be helping us out there.

*/- for single games is a useless stat

Williams has always been an advanced metric all-star. When he was on the Celtics the first time they played in the NBA finals he led the Celtics, in winshares. winshares/48, and BPM.

Clingan leads the Blazers in winshares and is 3rd in winshares/48. Williams is better than Deni in winshares/48 and BPM. He's also only averaging 16.7 minutes and not playing both games in B-2-B, so he doesn't have to pace himself

 

[Everything Beagle]

Everytime I check the boxscore these days, Clingan is in the minus and Rob is way in the plus. He doesn't seem to be helping us out there.

I think a lot of folks forget RWIII’s knees are the only reason he’s not an all star starting for a contender. When he plays at 100% he is better than Clingan.

Clingan has been flagging the last ten or fifteen games. Conditioning isn’t fully there yet; he’s been playing a bunch more than anyone expected going into the season.

He also has trouble with mobile centers and smaller guys. Since RWIII is exactly the right player in those situations, when Donovan struggles, RWIII usually thrives.

 

[ehizzy3]

I’ve been pretty pleased with both Clingan and Williams. Box scores won’t do Clingan justice for the impact he has.

Yang won’t be ready for minutes next year, I hope we resign rob he has been a great backup

 

[wizenheimer]

Clingan has been flagging the last ten or fifteen games. Conditioning isn’t fully there yet; he’s been playing a bunch more than anyone expected going into the season.

that doesn't really match his numbers though

in the month of February, he averaged:

* 14.3 points --> his highest PPG of the season
* 13.0 rebs --> his highest RPG of the season
* 3.1 assists --> his highest APG of the season
* a 2.43 assist/turnover ratio --> his best mark of the season
* 28.2 minutes --> his 2nd highest average of the season
* 55% on FG's --> 2nd best monthly mark of the season
* 46.5% on three's --> by far his best monthly mark of the season
* a .654 TS% --> 2nd highest of the season
* 2nd best off. rating and 2nd best def. rating of the year
* 2.3 blocks a game --> by far the best mark of the season

now, his numbers in March are mostly worse than February. But it has only been 4 games and 3 of those were on the road, so the sample size is probably skewed

 

[B-Roy]

I’ve been pretty pleased with both Clingan and Williams. Box scores won’t do Clingan justice for the impact he has.

Yang won’t be ready for minutes next year, I hope we resign rob he has been a great backup

I don't think it's a stretch to say Rob is more impactful in the minutes he plays. But both are good, and Rob's problem is that he can't play many minutes.

 

[blazerkor]

I don't think it's a stretch to say Rob is more impactful in the minutes he plays. But both are good, and Rob's problem is that he can't play many minutes.

I really hope we get a Rob type C that can split minutes with Clingan consistently and allow our coaches to set the terms of the mismatch instead of it being the other way around.

 

[Everything Beagle]

that doesn't really match his numbers though

in the month of February, he averaged:

* 14.3 points --> his highest PPG of the season
* 13.0 rebs --> his highest RPG of the season
* 3.1 assists --> his highest APG of the season
* a 2.43 assist/turnover ratio --> his best mark of the season
* 28.2 minutes --> his 2nd highest average of the season
* 55% on FG's --> 2nd best monthly mark of the season
* 46.5% on three's --> by far his best monthly mark of the season
* a .654 TS% --> 2nd highest of the season
* 2nd best off. rating and 2nd best def. rating of the year
* 2.3 blocks a game --> by far the best mark of the season

now, his numbers in March are mostly worse than February. But it has only been 4 games and 3 of those were on the road, so the sample size is probably skewed

Good call checking; i was going by memory which is obviously not perfect

 

[Everything Beagle]

I really hope we get a Rob type C that can split minutes with Clingan consistently and allow our coaches to set the terms of the mismatch instead of it being the other way around.

I mean if we can afford him I would like to keep RWIII. Knee recovery tech is rapidly improving and it’d be really nice if we just got to keep a rehabilitated Time Lord on the team.

 

[wizenheimer]

Good call checking; i was going by memory which is obviously not perfect

because he's almost exclusively a drop-coverage C, he's going to have games when he's less impactful. I think he's still inexperienced enough to let issues on defense or offense impact the other end of the floor

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I mean if we can afford him I would like to keep RWIII. Knee recovery tech is rapidly improving and it’d be really nice if we just got to keep a rehabilitated Time Lord on the team.

The only way we keep him is if his knees DON'T get fixed

 

[Everything Beagle]

The only way we keep him is if his knees DON'T get fixed

…until after we get him under contract