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It’s almost like real life isn’t like 2K and fit is more important. On paper CJ, Powell and RoCo might be better than Winslow and Hart but they weren’t better fits on an actual court.
Who cares? RoCo and Norm have value around the league. So does CJ. Just because they weren’t a good fit here doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be a good fit elsewhere. We got pennies on the dollar for CJ, Norm, RoCo, and Nance.
 
Who cares? RoCo and Norm have value around the league. So does CJ. Just because they weren’t a good fit here doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be a good fit elsewhere. We got pennies on the dollar for CJ, Norm, RoCo, and Nance.

nailed it.
 
I really think the perfect offseason for us would be trading EBEC and 7 for Randle and 10. We're able to get Duren at 10. We take a break glass in case of emergency PG at 36. We find a cheap way to take the conditions off of the pick we owe the Bulls. We do what it takes to make Nurk S&T for OG as far as future firsts go. We sign Hartenstein with most of the TPMLE, leaving the rest for our second round PG.

Dame, Ant, OG, Randle, Duren, Hart, Nas, Justise, Hartenstein, 36th pick PG, Keon, Trendon, Greg, Didi. If we have that roster and Dame/Ant can be much more complementary than Dame/CJ then we will be contenders. That might be because I think that Duren would be ROY and be all defense second team. I think he's a monster and has a spectacular feel for the game.
 
lol yeah, I’m gonna disagree with that one. Those dudes aren’t assets.
Burks is a decent player (as a 6-8th man).

I never said they were 'assets'. Just that the reported package is better than Dort (who is wildly overrated)
 
Burks is a decent player (as a 6-8th man).

I never said they were 'assets'. Just that the reported package is better than Dort (who is wildly overrated)

if they aren’t assets how can it be a better package? Or are you arguing Dort isn’t one either? Because that’d be wrong, especially when you consider his contract.
 
Burks is a decent player (as a 6-8th man).

I never said they were 'assets'. Just that the reported package is better than Dort (who is wildly overrated)

Noel has averaged about 5 points and 6 rebounds over the last 3 seasons, when he hasn't been injured. He's an acceptable backup big for a limited role. But that is why he's only worthy of a minimum contract; instead, he'll make 9.2M next season

Burks is a one-dimensional player, kind of like Tony Snell on Red Bull. His career marks in PER and TS% are below average; he's a mediocre rebounder and passer. He seems worthy of somewhere between a vet-minimun deal and 4M/year, but 4M is an overpay. But he will make 10.1M next season

Burks + Noel will make 19.4 M. The supposed NY offer didn't mention Bledsoe so essentially Portland would drop from 7 to 11 AND waste their big 'valuable' TPE for a couple of grossly overpaid scrubs. It's an insulting offer and I suspect it was deliberately leaked out of NY to be an insulting offer. And a leak like that might very well show there is a conflict in the Knicks front office about a Portland offer. Maybe Blazers offered something like Bledsoe + #7 for Randle + 11 + future pick(s)
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I'm not in favor of 7 for Dort and 12...at all. I kind of hate it in fact. He's a bad shooter as a smallish guard. Norm Powell with shitty offense and much better defense. He'll be in the final year of his rookie extension next season too, which is not a plus. Maybe the biggest red flag is that he's missed more than 90 games in 3 seasons. Now I don't know if it was injuries or a lot of DNP-CD's in his rookie year, but if injuries, that's a big concern

but I can see what the bet might be with Dort...that he might be a clone of Marcus Smart. A 3rd year comparison:

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accounting for the fact that Smart has been on much better teams, in many ways Dort equals or beats Smart in the comparison. The big advantage for Smart is that he can play PG. He has a much higher assist rate which may mean that Dort is locked into being a small wing

there is also the significant factor that Dort's salary fit's easily into Portland's smallest TPE so it doesn't cost the Blazers an additional asset

still, I don't find that persuasive at all....especially not at the cost of #7.

I suppose if the plan was something like #7 for Dort + #12 + #30 + future pick; then the Blazers traded #30 + future pick for Grant while using #12 on Duren/Sochan I could throw up a little and accept the trade
 
I would love to get Griffin in a trade down scenario. Great shooter, great size and length, good instincts, untapped potential. Billups and his staff would be good for him as there’s more in there to pull out.

 
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I would love to get Griffin in a trade down scenario. Great shooter, great size and length, good instincts, untapped potential. Billups and his staff would be good for him as there’s more in there to pull out.



A bigger Gary Trent, Jr. ^

I like AJ - the only concern (other than his defense) is his left knee (dislocated in 2020), which he sprained earlier in the season this year.
 
Simons for Grant :angel:

Unless that is Grant Hill from 30 years ago, this would be among one of the stupidest and moronic trade scenarios in Blazers history, and that INCLUDES trading the time when they traded Ha Seung Jin for a bucket of bolts.
 

The article mentions how his defense has taken a step back. Combine that with his inefficient shooting and his paltry rebounding, and the extension should scare a lot of teams. With all that, he would be an improvement for the Blazers wing situation, but at that future cost, I don't think it would be a wise investment.
 
The article mentions how his defense has taken a step back. Combine that with his inefficient shooting and his paltry rebounding, and the extension should scare a lot of teams. With all that, he would be an improvement for the Blazers wing situation, but at that future cost, I don't think it would be a wise investment.

he only makes sense if he comes with other assets, like a lower first, but Detroit doesn’t have an extra one any time soon.
 
The article mentions how his defense has taken a step back. Combine that with his inefficient shooting and his paltry rebounding, and the extension should scare a lot of teams. With all that, he would be an improvement for the Blazers wing situation, but at that future cost, I don't think it would be a wise investment.
I think this is a dumb idea, but maybe they think Grant could be like Wiggins.
 
I think this is a dumb idea, but maybe they think Grant could be like Wiggins.
Nah I don’t think so. We have seen Grant on winning teams. He left that to go to Detroit to boost his numbers. Wiggins was on a shitty team with a losing culture and he got traded to a winning team with a winning culture and they unlocked his potential. I wanted to trade CJ for him back in the day and I was rebuffed. Grant is a decent player on a good team but he’s not an all star.
 
Nah I don’t think so. We have seen Grant on winning teams. He left that to go to Detroit to boost his numbers. Wiggins was on a shitty team with a losing culture and he got traded to a winning team with a winning culture and they unlocked his potential. I wanted to trade CJ for him back in the day and I was rebuffed. Grant is a decent player on a good team but he’s not an all star.
I don't really consider Wiggins one either.
 

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