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from last summer (they're repped by the same agency).

You just have to hope Toronto isn't in the finals so he can play road games there. :)

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I just don't think Thybulle is a playoff player.

Doesn't get guarded. Can't dribble. Doesn't consistently make good decisions. And even as a defender he's a gambler who's also only good in certain contexts vs certain matchups.
 
JDC said:
I just don't think Thybulle is a playoff player.

Doesn't get guarded. Can't dribble. Doesn't consistently make good decisions. And even as a defender he's a gambler who's also only good in certain contexts vs certain matchups.
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He's a regular season player unless he makes progress on his shot
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Almost sounds like Pippens draft bio. Not saying hes Pippen but I see a lot of similar attributes. I’m 110% on board keeping this kid if we draft him.
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That was the name that popped into my head.
 
illmatic99 said:
would shedding his contract get them below the tax to enable them to use the full non-taxpayer MLE in free agency on Tucker?


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My understanding is that Philly would NOT be allowed to use the non-tax TPE.

I understood that it was always based on where the team was when the transaction finished. Signing Tucker to a full-MLE would put 76ers in the tax at the end of the transaction (thus would not be allowed).

Also using the full-MLE would hard-cap them as a team (limiting other options).

Regarding your Gordon trade, I have no interest in Niang. Send him to Houston instead
 
BankTeller said:
Holy crap, PJ Tucker is worth all that?? You have to find a way to get Thybulle here. Thybulle fits the Covington TPE, give us #23. Did I overestimate Thybulle’s value? I don’t get it.
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Thybulle very good defender but big offensive liability
 
Actually all this Thybulle stuff is probably not possible for Portland. We are 2.3mil below the luxury tax threshold for this season so taking on his contract without sending anything back would mean no payment for Jody from the tax paying teams. Its the kinda penny pinching move I'm sure she and Bert would insist on.
 
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illmatic99 said:
Actually all this Thybulle stuff is probably not possible for Portland. We are 2.3mil below the luxury tax threshold for this season so taking on his contract without sending anything back would mean no payment for Jody from the tax paying teams. Its the kinda penny pinching move I'm sure she and Bert would insist on.
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If we trade the pick for some middling veteran I'm going to be furious.

Honestly, I might check out until Jody and Bert are gone. Aaron Fentress was on 620 yesterday and he was saying they have like 3 more years to sell. Just long enough to completely ruin the rest of Dame's career.
 
illmatic99 said:
Actually all this Thybulle stuff is probably not possible for Portland. We are 2.3mil below the luxury tax threshold for this season so taking on his contract without sending anything back would mean no payment for Jody from the tax paying teams. Its the kinda penny pinching move I'm sure she and Bert would insist on.
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Both Spotrac and Fanspo have us 14.5M under the luxury tax right now and that's with dead money and everything. Maybe you have another source or could explain the math of how you got to 2.3M? If we are far enough away I would for sure be willing to take on Thybulle along with the 23rd pick for nothing or anything between a future second and the Bucks 2025 FRP.

At that point I might trade back to San Antonio 7 for 9 and 25. I would draft Duren at 9. I would send 23 and 36 to Detroit for Grant (that trade would be completed after the start of the new league year). I would take Dalen Terry at 25. Hart, Thybulle and Nas would battle it out for the starting 3 spot.

Dame, Ant, Terry
Ant, Hart, Keon
Thybulle, Nas, Justise
Grant, Justise, Trendon, Greg
Nurk, Duren

That's a helluva lot of depth and a great balance of developing youth and win now vets.
 
blazerkor said:
Both Spotrac and Fanspo have us 14.5M under the luxury tax right now and that's with dead money and everything. Maybe you have another source or could explain the math of how you got to 2.3M? If we are far enough away I would for sure be willing to take on Thybulle along with the 23rd pick for nothing or anything between a future second and the Bucks 2025 FRP.

At that point I might trade back to San Antonio 7 for 9 and 25. I would draft Duren at 9. I would send 23 and 36 to Detroit for Grant (that trade would be completed after the start of the new league year). I would take Dalen Terry at 25. Hart, Thybulle and Nas would battle it out for the starting 3 spot.

Dame, Ant, Terry
Ant, Hart, Keon
Thybulle, Nas, Justise
Grant, Justise, Trendon, Greg
Nurk, Duren

That's a helluva lot of depth and a great balance of developing youth and win now vets.
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Jesus, you're right. I must have looked at the wrong team!
 
illmatic99 said:
Jesus, you're right. I must have looked at the wrong team!
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What's crazy is that none of those moves seem like a stretch at all to me. I really think with that kind of depth and defense, that Chauncey could afford to play guys really hard with all of the motion he wants on both ends and just cut down on starters minutes and play a very large rotation of Dame, Ant, Thybulle, Grant, Hart, Nas, Justise, Duren and Terry with Keon, Trendon, Greg and I guess Didi battling for any spot minutes.

I think that team has an excellent chance of winning in the playoffs. I mostly think that because I think that Grant would actually have a career year and Ant would as well but I'm pretty high on Grant as a 2a/2b option on offense who could concentrate more on defense and with new motivation because he was on a team competing to win again.
 
blazerkor said:
Both Spotrac and Fanspo have us 14.5M under the luxury tax right now and that's with dead money and everything. Maybe you have another source or could explain the math of how you got to 2.3M? If we are far enough away I would for sure be willing to take on Thybulle along with the 23rd pick for nothing or anything between a future second and the Bucks 2025 FRP.

At that point I might trade back to San Antonio 7 for 9 and 25. I would draft Duren at 9. I would send 23 and 36 to Detroit for Grant (that trade would be completed after the start of the new league year). I would take Dalen Terry at 25. Hart, Thybulle and Nas would battle it out for the starting 3 spot.

Dame, Ant, Terry
Ant, Hart, Keon
Thybulle, Nas, Justise
Grant, Justise, Trendon, Greg
Nurk, Duren

That's a helluva lot of depth and a great balance of developing youth and win now vets.
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I would be OK with trading down to the 9th pick if the players are pretty even on Cronin's list between 7-9, or if their number one prospect is available at number 9. If Duren is their number one prospect, for example, and he gets taken by New Orleans (unlikely but possible) then they have to call it off.
If Sharpe or Murray somehow are still available at number 7 they have to take that guy and keep him.
Smith - Chet - Paolo - Ivey - Murray - Sharpe - Mathurin - Sochan - Duren - Daniels
 
blazerkor said:
What's crazy is that none of those moves seem like a stretch at all to me. I really think with that kind of depth and defense, that Chauncey could afford to play guys really hard with all of the motion he wants on both ends and just cut down on starters minutes and play a very large rotation of Dame, Ant, Thybulle, Grant, Hart, Nas, Justise, Duren and Terry with Keon, Trendon, Greg and I guess Didi battling for any spot minutes.

I think that team has an excellent chance of winning in the playoffs. I mostly think that because I think that Grant would actually have a career year and Ant would as well but I'm pretty high on Grant as a 2a/2b option on offense who could concentrate more on defense and with new motivation because he was on a team competing to win again.
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The main thing the Blazers have to do to keep me a fan is keep their draft pick chosen at 7-9. I don't care about the trades. Those guys are who they are.
 
Shit! I have no fucking clue what's going to happen. It's exciting and I'm hopeful but it's also a bit nerve wracking considering all of the possibilities to fuck it up.
 
blazerkor said:
Shit! I have no fucking clue what's going to happen. It's exciting and I'm hopeful but it's also a bit nerve wracking considering all of the possibilities to fuck it up.
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I'm going to throw up if there's no Murray or Sharpe at 7. Daniels would be the guy there.
 
I don't hate Daniel's but he seems like such a let down compared to the other 2. Like a great glue guy but no star potential. I'm not sure a glue guy helps us enough right now.
 
Given their history I think Dame would be over the moon if Agbaji slipped to 16 and we traded 7 and Bledsoe for Collins and 16. I also think that Agbaji is the most NBA ready guy in the draft and would be an immediate impact player at a starting level but not a star level on both ends. Dame, Ant, Agbaji, Collins, Nurk, Hart, Nas, Justise, Orlando Robinson (pick 36) would be a damn good rotation.
 
blazerkor said:
Given their history I think Dame would be over the moon if Agbaji slipped to 16 and we traded 7 and Bledsoe for Collins and 16. I also think that Agbaji is the most NBA ready guy in the draft and would be an immediate impact player at a starting level but not a star level on both ends. Dame, Ant, Agbaji, Collins, Nurk, Hart, Nas, Justise, Orlando Robinson (pick 36) would be a damn good rotation.
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Agbaji would not start over Little. He's not nearly the prospect Nas is.
 
AmirIcon said:
Rumor is Indiana will take Mathurin at 6. If true, Portland should end up with either Murray or Sharpe. Let's hope.
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If this is the case I wouldn’t be surprised to see them swap with NO who could jump up and grab Sharpe.
 
South East said:
If this is the case I wouldn’t be surprised to see them swap with NO who could jump up and grab Sharpe.
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That would be a dick move. Definitely have to keep an eye out on teams trying to move up like OKC and Pelicans who have a lot of resources to move. Pelicans might be more in the win now mode which I think Daniels could be a really good fit.
 
Do some trade action with #7pick up some assets get Mark Williams sign and trade Nurk for other assets.
 
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