Dragic is ballin

[JfizzleBlazer]

Either this thread or the other one, I said the Houston media says the Rockets expect to have to pay around 9-10 million to keep him. It's a big debate down here for Rockets fans

Which is nic batum land. Overpaid role player land. So I agree with you, dont overpay role players. Would you rather have batum and dragic holding up 30 to 40% of our cap, or make lopsided trades attached to draft picks like okc did with kurt thomas a few yearsbago. Id rather go the deron or rondo route, if those fail...have kendall marshall be thebackup plan and try to make lopsided trades.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

OT, but wouldn't a Rockets-Minnesota game be the whitest NBA game in about 4 decades?

 

[STOMP]

I would pay 8 for him but that's it. Hopefully our team can think bigger though.

I regularly crunch numbers for my fantasy team. We compete in 8 categories... points, FTs made, 3's made, FG%, Assts, RBs, Stls & Blks. For the last month where he's been starting, I've Goran pegged as the 7th best player in the league. Of course this is not a true reflection in his value, but it should provide some perspective as to how good he's been.

Again, I'm not completely sure of where things sit with the new CBA, but I'd be for offering him a rate that a solid starter would receive. His next contract will run through the prime of his career.

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[STOMP]

Which is nic batum land. Overpaid role player land. So I agree with you, dont overpay role players. Would you rather have batum and dragic holding up 30 to 40% of our cap, or make lopsided trades attached to draft picks like okc did with kurt thomas a few yearsbago. Id rather go the deron or rondo route, if those fail...have kendall marshall be thebackup plan and try to make lopsided trades.

I'd much rather allot 16M per season to Nic & Dragic then just Deron.

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[Mediocre Man]

I'd much rather allot 16M per season to Nic & Dragic then just Deron.

STOMP

Wow, really?

To me the NBA has shown nothing if not that you win with superstars. You might not win right away with them, but at least you have them to build around

 

[RoyToy]

I personally think you root against the Blazers, which is fine too

He (she?) is the new Mixum

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I'd much rather allot 16M per season to Nic & Dragic then just Deron.

STOMP

Dont know what to say to this....

 

[The_Lillard_King]

He (she?) is the new Mixum

Come on now . . . he is funnier than Mixum

 

[Mediocre Man]

Come on now . . . he is funnier than Mixum

Don't concern yourself with RoyToy. Some of us like to bash on the moves we don't agree with that the team makes and others like bashing on other posters. It's not a big deal really. I sum it up to one or two of a few things.

They are abused at home by their wife
They weren't hugged enough as a child
They either were not breastfed or breastfed way too long
They have a small penis
They are in middle management


I have no idea if any of those things are true about him however, but I think 99% of the time I am dead on

 

[STOMP]

Wow, really?

To me the NBA has shown nothing if not that you win with superstars. You might not win right away with them, but at least you have them to build around

Hows your strategy working out for New Jersey? 16M per for DW is putting too many eggs in one basket. He'll be 28 next season and has missed stretches with injuries each of the last 4 seasons playing 261 of 302 games. I very much doubt that trend is going to improve from here on out. How many superstar PGs can you think of who led their team to a championship in their 30's. Has there been a single championship team who's top paid player was their PG since Magic's Lakers?

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[STOMP]

He (she?) is the new Mixum

your wit is so sharp. The point was MM was assigning ridiculous positions to me so I returned the favor

STOMP

 

[Mediocre Man]

Hows your strategy working out for New Jersey? 16M per for DW is putting too many eggs in one basket. He'll be 28 next season and has missed stretches with injuries each of the last 4 seasons playing 261 of 302 games. I very much doubt that trend is going to improve from here on out. How many superstar PGs can you think of who led their team to a championship in their 30's. Has there been a single championship team who's top paid player was their PG since Magic's Lakers?

STOMP

Oh I know. It's certainly not 100%, but I think you have to start there.


Led their team to the title run in their 30's? Hmm, I'm not sure?


But the better question....the highest paid player as a PG, that is a tough one. I am thinking as I type, and can't come up with one. He's not the highest, but Tony Parker? He's about the closest I can think of. Damon was up there. Not that either led their teams though. Wade maybe?

Maybe a good question to ask is what position over the last 20 years has "led" their team to the finals most?

Going from last year back

Dirk....Lebron maybe?
Kobe....Garnett?
Kobe....D Howard
Pierce....Kobe
Parker....Lebron
Wade....Nowitzki
Billups....Shaq?
Duncan....Kidd
Shaq....Kidd
Shaq....Iverson
Shaq....Miller
Duncan....Ewing
Jordan....Stockton or Malone?
Jordan....Stockton or Malone?
Jordan....Payton
Hakeem....Shaq
Hakeem....Ewing
Jordan....Barkley
Jordan....Drexler
Jordan....Johnson

So I will split Stockton and Malone and give them one point each

PG = 8
SG = 12
SF = 3
PF = 7
C = 10

So science has spoken. SG, followed by C is the most important position to have a stud at, while the least important is SF. I am officially off the Williams bandwagon for now

 

[Mediocre Man]

your wit is so sharp. The point was MM was assigning ridiculous positions to me so I returned the favor

STOMP

Sharp like butter

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Is Wes a good fit next to Dragic?

IMO, I think finding a legit starting caliber SG should be next on the list.

cough Bradley Beal! cough

 

[STOMP]

Led their team to the title run in their 30's? Hmm, I'm not sure?

I don't think there has been one since Magic.

But the better question....the highest paid player as a PG, that is a tough one. I am thinking as I type, and can't come up with one. He's not the highest, but Tony Parker? He's about the closest I can think of. Damon was up there. Not that either led their teams though. Wade maybe?

Parker was paid 9.4M in 2006-7 which was dwarfed by Timmy's 17.5. Damon never won a championship and Wade (who was making 3M when the Heat won) is an SG, so neither qualifies.

So science has spoken. SG, followed by C is the most important position to have a stud at, while the least important is SF. I am officially off the Williams bandwagon for now

while I agree with the general conclusions of your study, I'd question your PG data. Allan Iverson was never a PG and neither was Wade. The stats sure don't say Tony Parker led the Spurs in 2007 (reference link) & that Billups Piston championship club is usually characterized as having 5 quality players rather then a single standout superstar. Ben Wallace was their only All-Star and was also the only Piston named to one of the All NBA teams.

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[Mediocre Man]

I don't think there has been one since Magic.



Parker was paid 9.4M in 2006-7 which was dwarfed by Timmy's 17.5. Damon never won a championship and Wade (who was making 3M when the Heat won) is an SG, so neither qualifies.



while I agree with the general conclusions of your study, I'd question your PG data. Allan Iverson was never a PG and neither was Wade. The stats sure don't say Tony Parker led the Spurs in 2007 (reference link) & that Billups Piston championship club is usually characterized as having 5 quality players rather then a single standout superstar. Ben Wallace was their only All-Star and was also the only Piston named to one of the All NBA teams.

STOMP

I took the MVP of the winning team. Parker and Billups were it, so they counted. I didn't include Wade as a PG, but did include AI. And I always go for play for title rather than win because once you are there anything can happen

 

[STOMP]

I took the MVP of the winning team. Parker and Billups were it, so they counted. I didn't include Wade as a PG, but did include AI. And I always go for play for title rather than win because once you are there anything can happen

it's your scientific study, so you get to design the methodology. I would have gone with the best player as the one who led the team to the title, but whatever....

the greater point is that spending top dollar on a PG might not be PDX's golden ticket to the finals. There are a lot more top skilled athletes at 6'1 then 6'10, and thats where supply and demand kicks in. I'd rather spread the money through the roster on solid up and coming players then put it all into one established stud.

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[ChadWick]

I just photoshopped this real quick. If Deron/Rondo fail, I say go for Dragic!!

 

[THE HCP]

How about a Greg Oden pic in a Miami jersey?

 

[Mediocre Man]

it's your scientific study, so you get to design the methodology. I would have gone with the best player as the one who led the team to the title, but whatever....

the greater point is that spending top dollar on a PG might not be PDX's golden ticket to the finals. There are a lot more top skilled athletes at 6'1 then 6'10, and thats where supply and demand kicks in. I'd rather spread the money through the roster on solid up and coming players then put it all into one established stud.

STOMP

I still think you have to have that stud. However after the in depth extremely scientific study, I have come to the conclusion that it shouldn't be a PG. Solid doesn't usually win, IMO. I think you need to get that stud to compete for a title. That said, according to my vast research that Blazer could do a lot worse than drafting Drummond and Lamb, Beal or whichever SG they think has the tools to be an elite level player, while spending their dollars on Dragic and someone like Elyasova.

 

[ChadWick]

How about a Greg Oden pic in a Miami jersey?

Lol..yeah no thanks!