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Schilly said:
It must be nice to live in a fantasy world of unicorns and cotton candy flowers on trees, ohh look it's raining skittles and there's a fairy pissing beer.
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It IS awesome! But tell me where the fairy is, daddy's thirsty!:drinkapint:
 
0-Our! said:
Exactly. D-Bag12 is NOT a winner, why do ppl want him here?
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Funny, he carried a team to the finals didn't he?

So what if he didn't get along with Kobe, the city of Los Angeles, and James Harden?

He didn't handle his orlando exit very well, true, but I also don't blame him for wanting, or thinking he needed bigger things at that age.
 
Scalma said:
Funny, he carried a team to the finals didn't he?

So what if he didn't get along with Kobe, the city of Los Angeles, and James Harden?

He didn't handle his orlando exit very well, true, but I also don't blame him for wanting, or thinking he needed bigger things at that age.
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That IS funny, u think he single handedly did that? Just to throw out 1 thing that got them there... there was some1... IDK... some guy named... Jameer Nelson that had a little more than a ton to do w/ that happening too.
 
Scalma said:
Portland should get him. Lolz. No but for real, strictly basketball wise I actually think he would fit despite his age, and I think he would love to play with dame. I bet he regrets leaving orlando and he could thrive again in a smaller market like Portland where the fans would all get behind him. Blazers would instantly turn into a contender.
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Dwight Howard refused to run the PnR with Steve Nash. Steve MF Nash. On that premise alone I say no.

It's tempting sure, b/c of the talent that he is, but there's nothing about his game that lines up with the Blazers. Demands to be force fed. No longer the interior defensive presence he once was. Stupidly expensive. Known head case. The negatives here outweigh the positives way too much.
 
Dan Marang said:
Dwight Howard refused to run the PnR with Steve Nash. Steve MF Nash. On that premise alone I say no.

It's tempting sure, b/c of the talent that he is, but there's nothing about his game that lines up with the Blazers. Demands to be force fed. No longer the interior defensive presence he once was. Stupidly expensive. Known head case. The negatives here outweigh the positives way too much.
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THANK YOU sir! Talk some sense into these ppl, they're not listening to the obvious/reason/truth.:wink: Dan... u da man!
 
Dan Marang said:
Dwight Howard refused to run the PnR with Steve Nash. Steve MF Nash. On that premise alone I say no.

It's tempting sure, b/c of the talent that he is, but there's nothing about his game that lines up with the Blazers. Demands to be force fed. No longer the interior defensive presence he once was. Stupidly expensive. Known head case. The negatives here outweigh the positives way too much.
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Do the Blazers become more attractive to another marquee free agent if they have D12 in the fold this summer?
 
0-Our! said:
That IS funny, u think he single handedly did that? Just to throw out 1 thing that got them there... there was some1... IDK... some guy named... Jameer Nelson that had a little more than a ton to do w/ that happening too.
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Funny that you blame Houston's struggles all on Howard but don't have any problem praising supporting players when his team was successful. Cool. And yes he was the best player on that team. Not jameer Nelson.
 
BBert said:
After Howard's experiences playing for the Lakers and the Rockets, I would think he'd be very appreciative of the team and atmosphere in Portland.
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Not if I was within earshot of him, he wouldn't.
 
0-Our! said:
No, he may also actually deter a FA from coming here bc the opportunities may b less attractive (i.e. PT etc.).
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He might attract a mid-tier guy like Chandler Parsons though.

Dame
CJ
Parsons
Vonleh (?)
Howard
 
Scalma said:
Funny that you blame Houston's struggles all on Howard but don't have any problem praising supporting players when his team was successful. Cool. And yes he was the best player on that team. Not jameer Nelson.
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Not all, actually they haven't been giving him the ball for a long time now; only recently & every once in awhile do they; Hou. problems run deeper vs. D-Bag12 alone BUT when u DO feed him a bunch... YES I AM blaming him almost exclusively for losses/failure.

Didn't say he wasn't the best/most talented player; what I AM saying is that he's not THE main/only reason why they did what they did AND u DO need to give credit to the team/system for their success, that's all.
 
Dan Marang said:
Dwight Howard refused to run the PnR with Steve Nash. Steve MF Nash. On that premise alone I say no.
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You're talking about 27-year-old, full-of-himself Dwight Howard and 38-year-old, post-broken-leg, basically-ineffectual Steve Nash? Yeah, I'm not sure if that's completely relevant at this point, especially if Howard has been humbled by his experiences in LA and Houston.

Dan Marang said:
It's tempting sure, b/c of the talent that he is, but there's nothing about his game that lines up with the Blazers. Demands to be force fed. No longer the interior defensive presence he once was. Stupidly expensive. Known head case. The negatives here outweigh the positives way too much.
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I don't know about the "demanding to be force fed" part (seems speculative), but even if he's not the interior defensive presence he once was, he's still more of an interior defensive presence and rim protector than anyone else we currently have. As for his cost, considering the salary floor issue, it would actually cost fewer real dollars to trade for him than not to. If we could obtain him--essentially for a 28-game evaluation period--for Kaman + not much else, there would be very little downside.
 
Dan Marang said:
Dwight Howard refused to run the PnR with Steve Nash. Steve MF Nash. On that premise alone I say no.

It's tempting sure, b/c of the talent that he is, but there's nothing about his game that lines up with the Blazers. Demands to be force fed. No longer the interior defensive presence he once was. Stupidly expensive. Known head case. The negatives here outweigh the positives way too much.
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Howard's not real useful in the P&R. What's he going to do, shoot from 15' if his man doubles Nash?

I can easily see him doing exactly what Plums does for us, only much better at it all (except passing). If we involve him enough on offense, he gets you easy/close baskets (look at his FG%) or demands a double team.

His DRtg is still really good. I think he'll be playing like he has for the past 3-4 years for the next 3-4, assuming he's happy.

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Denny Crane said:
Howard's not real useful in the P&R. What's he going to do, shoot from 15' if his man doubles Nash?

I can easily see him doing exactly what Plums does for us, only much better at it all (except passing). If we involve him enough on offense, he gets you easy/close baskets (look at his FG%) or demands a double team.

His DRtg is still really good. I think he'll be playing like he has for the past 3-4 years for the next 3-4, assuming he's happy.

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I'll keep/like Plums, thanks:wink:
 
The gambler in me is intrigued by the slim chance, but miniscule chances aside I get the feeling it wouldn't end well.

On the other hand lets say all it took was Leonard and Kaman and another sweetener (Crabbe or whomever) I'd take the 5% chance it all magically works out.

Roll them bones if you can.
 
Nikolokolus said:
The gambler in me is intrigued by the slim chance, but miniscule chances aside I get the feeling it wouldn't end well.

On the other hand lets say all it took was Leonard and Kaman and another sweetener (Crabbe or whomever) I'd take the 5% chance it all magically works out.

Roll them bones if you can.
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If it only cost Leonard/Kaman/Aminu I would do it.
 
Scalma said:
Same but I'm guessing Houston would want as much cap space as possible for the summer. Leonard/Kaman/draft picks?
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That's true. They're probably holding onto the delusion they can get Durant.
 
Scalma said:
Same but I'm guessing Houston would want as much cap space as possible for the summer. Leonard/Kaman/draft picks?
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With our pick conditionally owed to Denver its not that simple with the Stepien rule
 
Maybe they can throw in Harrell while they're at it lol
 
Nikolokolus said:
With our pick conditionally owed to Denver its not that simple with the Stepien rule
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True, but you can always accommodate Stepien by saying "next available". Or you can include option to swap picks rather than a straight up pick transfer.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Do the Blazers become more attractive to another marquee free agent if they have D12 in the fold this summer?
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on paper, perhaps

But the thing about D12 is this- beyond the diva issues and general fit- he's going to cost a fortune. He's a 10 year vet with nearly every qualifier and he's angling for a max deal. That max deal will START at $25m per year. That just destroys cap space- and with all the other strings attached he's just not worth it to me. I don't disagree that the Blazers need a big- that's what they need to address (and talk about in the podcast this week- shameless plug). But I would rather see them target someone like John Henson- a rim protecting big that doesn't NEED the ball. There's only 3 bigs in the league who I would be willing to run my offense thru and that's Boogie, KAT, and AD. If it's not one of those guys, I'd rather try to fill that spot with a defensive minded player who ticks all the boxes and can finish a lob/hit free throws. Then address the SF/PF position for the potential 3rd player of a big 3.

That's my 2 cents anyway.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
True, but you can always accommodate Stepien by saying "next available". Or you can include option to swap picks rather than a straight up pick transfer.
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Why would that be a competitive offer? Houston will have multiple suitors/offers
 
Nikolokolus said:
Why would that be a competitive offer? Houston will have multiple suitors/offers
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Didn't say it would be, and that's actually questionable as to how numerous the suitors will be considering the likelihood of an opt-out. But that's not really the discussion at hand. The main question is not "what would it take to get him?", so much as, "if we could get him, would we want him?" The general consensus in this thread amongst those interested in the possibility is that it would have to be a sweetheart of a deal.
 
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