E. Will Appreciation thread!

[THE HCP]

You white people crack me up!

 

[THE HCP]

DAMN!

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[THE HCP]

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[THE HCP]

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[Nikolokolus]

Watching Eliot get up makes me wonder what it would have been like if Travis Outlaw had possessed an ounce of basketball IQ.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Watching Eliot get up makes me wonder what it would have been like if Travis Outlaw had possessed an ounce of basketball IQ.

It would have been like Nicolas Batum with better hops

 

[oldmangrouch]

After the AS break, I wish Nate would just bench Felton for 10 games and let Williams and Smith play.

If they fall on their faces, so be it....but at least give them a fair shot. Felton has been given ample opportunity to prove he is part of the team's future - and he blew it. Time to give somebody else a chance.

 

[MickZagger]

I like him ... maybe a lot.

This team currently has a lot of "below the rim" types playing at guard (Wesley in particular with a really limited handle). If Eliot can guard two positions (the one and the two), consistently knock down a perimeter shot and show some ability to drive and finish, there's no reason to think that he can't be a starting 2 guard with some development time. This ridiculous idea that he can be a point guard is wish-casting however. His only hope as a starter is if he can play at the two and not get overwhelmed at that spot defensively ... if he can't guard starting twos then you're right, his ceiling is an off-the-bench sparkplug type.

I think he can already guard 2's. Defense is his best attribute.

 

[julius]

What color do I type for a Scottish accent?

drunk or potato.

 

[julius]

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am i the only one who thinks having Mark Masons "elliot williams!" call repeated during the replay is gawd awful annoying?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Mark Mason is gawd awful annoying, period.

 

[THE HCP]

Mark Mason is gawd awful annoying, period.

Ding Ding Ding.....

 

[KingSpeed]

Mags- Ewill doesnt play meaningful minutes. EWill isn't being asked run the team and produce wins on a nightly basis. So it's easier to love Ewill and bash Crawford and Felton who have actually helped us win games.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Mags- Ewill doesnt play meaningful minutes. EWill isn't being asked run the team and produce wins on a nightly basis. So it's easier to love Ewill and bash Crawford and Felton who have actually helped us win games.

And helped us lose games

 

[magnifier661]

Mags- Ewill doesnt play meaningful minutes. EWill isn't being asked run the team and produce wins on a nightly basis. So it's easier to love Ewill and bash Crawford and Felton who have actually helped us win games.

Felton has lost more games for us than won them. Crawford has helped in some games; but you'd be surprised how our record would be without him. I suspect it would be close to the same. Why? Well Nate wouldn't have that ISO guy that suffocates the offense and actually find plays to fit player movement, etc.

E. Will doesn't have enough burn to really know how good he will or could be. But giving him no burn will always leave this question up in the air. Same "no burn" Batum got during his first 3 years, IMO.

 

[Blazinaway]

Felton has lost more games for us than won them. Crawford has helped in some games; but you'd be surprised how our record would be without him. I suspect it would be close to the same. Why? Well Nate wouldn't have that ISO guy that suffocates the offense and actually find plays to fit player movement, etc.

E. Will doesn't have enough burn to really know how good he will or could be. But giving him no burn will always leave this question up in the air. Same "no burn" Batum got during his first 3 years, IMO.

Mags while I agree with U on Ewill you need to do a little thinking before you blurt out that Nic "got no burn" during his first 3 years. As a 19-20 yr old rook he got 18.4 minutes per game so WTF are you talking about? He got more the next year.

 

[magnifier661]

Mags while I agree with U on Ewill you need to do a little thinking before you blurt out that Nic "got no burn" during his first 3 years. As a 19-20 yr old rook he got 18.4 minutes per game so WTF are you talking about? He got more the next year.

Ugg sorry, I miswrote. I meant utilize Batum. He was just a spot up shooter for most his career in Portland; which I believe wasn't developing his game. But whatevs... My mistake.

 

[KingSpeed]

Felton has lost more games for us than won them. Crawford has helped in some games; but you'd be surprised how our record would be without him. I suspect it would be close to the same. Why? Well Nate wouldn't have that ISO guy that suffocates the offense and actually find plays to fit player movement, etc.

E. Will doesn't have enough burn to really know how good he will or could be. But giving him no burn will always leave this question up in the air. Same "no burn" Batum got during his first 3 years, IMO.

Batum got no burn? He started his rookie year!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Batum got no burn? He started his rookie year!

18 mpg ... so saying he "started" is a little bit misleading.

 

[BBert]

It would have been like Nicolas Batum with better hops

Nico is much more graceful and coordinated than Travis could ever hope to be -- Travis seemed to have two giant left feet. And Nico's bbiq, floor vision and anticipation is off the charts compared to Travis. I liked having Travis around, though, and he could hit a clutch shot if you unleashed him and pointed him at the basket. One thing was certain, he wouldn't over think it like Nico sometimes does.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

18 mpg ... so saying he "started" is a little bit misleading.

jamaal magloire, all star

 

[Minstrel]

Nico is much more graceful and coordinated than Travis could ever hope to be -- Travis seemed to have two giant left feet. And Nico's bbiq, floor vision and anticipation is off the charts compared to Travis. I liked having Travis around, though, and he could hit a clutch shot if you unleashed him and pointed him at the basket. One thing was certain, he wouldn't over think it like Nico sometimes does.

I never really got the hate that a lot of people (not you, necessarily) had for Outlaw. He wasn't a good all-around player, but the Portland version of Outlaw was a pretty useful reserve. He was a guy who could make shots when the offense was stagnating and the team couldn't generate good looks. I characterized him back at the time as a "nice luxury on a high-level team." You wouldn't be in good shape counting on Outlaw as a starter, but as a Vinnie Johnson-like scorer off the bench, he was a nice weapon to have.

Of course, he's utterly collapsed since leaving Portland, so now he's not much of anything. Shame.

 

[jlprk]

Nets fans had the same hate for him. They said he broke many plays. Same thing as here.

 

[THE HCP]

jamaal magloire, all star

If I'm not mistaken, because of the NBA rule of having to have a back up at each position....... Jamal made it instead of LeBron!

 

[Minstrel]

Nets fans had the same hate for him. They said he broke many plays. Same thing as here.

Outlaw was actually terrible for New Jersey, though, in terms of production. He was about average in production in Portland.

 

[BBert]

I never really got the hate that a lot of people (not you, necessarily) had for Outlaw.

Nope. You won't find any posts of me bagging on Travis. He was what he was, a useful reserve who could rise up and get a shot off, and sometimes he was pretty clutch. Ultimately, he helped us get Mar-Cus Cam-By! Clap Clap....