Eating Crow about Scoot (1 Viewer)

[Phatguysrule]

No doubt, but that doesn't fit in this case. Clingan wasn't considered polished or NBA ready...by hardly anyone. He's an example of a young guy developing just fine in this system while having vets ahead of him in the rotation. So, the system (coaching and/or front office) itself isn't the problem, unless something in Clingan's collegiate experience that was missed by all the scouts somehow made him more capable of adapting.



NFL scouting is certainly a more exact science than is NBA scouting, but even they have a lot of whiffs with the 3 year requirement. At the end of the day, there's a whole lot of unknowns however you go about it.

Clingan had two years of college, and competed on a championship roster. He's better prepared than either Scoot or Sharpe. It's no surprise to me that he's adjusting better.

 

[BlazerWookee]

They wouldn’t. They’d laugh and hang up.

Scoot at this point is just beyond bad. I don’t even think he’s worth a 2nd round pick

"Think," lol...

 

[BlazerWookee]

Actually Scoot does have a lot of similarities to Telfair 2nd year statistically. Telfair advanced stats all much better. Scoot is better 2pt scoring, assist, and with free throws. Telfair was a much better 3pt shooter and less turnovers.

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And Scoot is better at not bringing a gun on the team plane.

 

[Everything Beagle]

How does one un-eat crow?

 

[blazerkor]

How does one un-eat crow?

The fact that whatever you were eating crow about was actually just an illusion makes you sick and you puke up the crow you had eaten.

Just saying that Scoot having arrived wasn't real not that he still can't get there.

 

[Phatguysrule]

How does one un-eat crow?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Clingan had two years of college, and competed on a championship roster. He's better prepared than either Scoot or Sharpe. It's no surprise to me that he's adjusting better.

Clingan also didn't have the upside of Scoot or Sharpe. A lumbering center is a player archetype that doesn't have a lot of value in today's NBA.

So thats the flip side of potential - there is a lot more downside and chance to bust.

 

[AldoTrapani]

You got homers here who still LOVE scooter lol

 

[andalusian]

How does one un-eat crow?

Bathroom. And don't forget to light a match after you are done there.

 

[HailBlazers]

Clingan also didn't have the upside of Scoot or Sharpe. A lumbering center is a player archetype that doesn't have a lot of value in today's NBA.

Locking down the paint will always be valuable.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Locking down the paint will always be valuable.
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Clingan's a Blazer for life if he can keep both his knees in good shape

 

[beast blazer]

I wonder if we could get a team to give us a 1st round pick for Scoot. We traded Telfair after his 2nd season and got Brandon Roy out of the deal.

 

[Cugel]

nfw

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

I wonder if we could get a team to give us a 1st round pick for Scoot. We traded Telfair after his 2nd season and got Brandon Roy out of the deal.

I really like the way you think here.

Any possibility that we could trade him to the Bulls for #10?
Outside of Chicago, I don't see many teams that would be willing to trade a pick for Scoot.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I wonder if we could get a team to give us a 1st round pick for Scoot. We traded Telfair after his 2nd season and got Brandon Roy out of the deal.

We've destroyed any chance of that by playing him mostly behind and with Ant.

We're going to have to give him the keys if we hope to salvage him.

 

[Freshtown]

 

[handiman]

Clingan had two years of college, and competed on a championship roster. He's better prepared than either Scoot or Sharpe. It's no surprise to me that he's adjusting better.

That's easy to say in hindsight, but how many people predicted it before the draft? There was talk of him maybe becoming a Gobert-level defender some day, but even that didn't go so far as hoping for a rapid adjustment.

 

[AldoTrapani]

I wonder if we could get a team to give us a 1st round pick for Scoot. We traded Telfair after his 2nd season and got Brandon Roy out of the deal.

That would be amazing but Poop Henderson is so trash right now I don’t know

 

[AldoTrapani]

Everybody is realizing what an epic bust he is now

 

[Phatguysrule]

That's easy to say in hindsight, but how many people predicted it before the draft? There was talk of him maybe becoming a Gobert-level defender some day, but even that didn't go so far as hoping for a rapid adjustment.

My only point is that I'd prefer if all players had a couple of years.

I generally expect players with college experience to be more polished.

 

[ant]

Where’s that Scoot?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Where’s that Scoot?

He hasn't lost the ability. I don't think the franchise has done a very good job of developing either Scoot or Sharpe.

In fact, I think they've done a terrible job helping them adjust.

 

[AldoTrapani]

He hasn't lost the ability. I don't think the franchise has done a very good job of developing either Scoot or Sharpe.

In fact, I think they've done a terrible job helping them adjust.

They need to take responsibility for themselves wtf

 

[Phatguysrule]

They need to take responsibility for themselves wtf

Either we need to figure out how the team is failing these guys or the team needs to figure out how to avoid guys like these.

Either way, getting mad at the player isn't going to help.

 

[inconceivable]

I remenber how BRoy told ZBo, "Shut up, this is my team now!"

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Every night, Scoot watches that video alone in his darkened room and a single tear slides down his cheek

 

[inconceivable]

In todays NBA, unless you are dominant inside like Shaq or Giannis, 33% 3P should be bare minimum.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Either we need to figure out how the team is failing these guys or the team needs to figure out how to avoid guys like these.

Either way, getting mad at the player isn't going to help.

Maybe they’re just not good. You know it happens sometimes. I was huge on shaedon Sharpe too but the guy is just garbage mentally and soft. Unfortunately it happens

 

[Phatguysrule]

Maybe they’re just not good. You know it happens sometimes. I was huge on shaedon Sharpe too but the guy is just garbage mentally and soft. Unfortunately it happens

Maybe. With the way this has been handled, I don't know that one way or the other.

We have done exactly what I said we shouldn't do with them and what has happened is exactly what I thought might happen if we did this with them...

 

[Pinwheel1]

Either we need to figure out how the team is failing these guys or the team needs to figure out how to avoid guys like these.

Either way, getting mad at the player isn't going to help.

I agree. Especially when we blame Ant for their "lack of development".