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http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/05/u...ore-of-travel-office-case.html?pagewanted=all

Memo Places Hillary Clinton At Core of Travel Office Case

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/23/news/mn-44043

Travelgate Inquiry Suggests Signs of Lies by First Lady

WASHINGTON — There is "substantial evidence" that First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton lied under oath in denying that she played a role in the 1993 White House travel office firings, independent counsel Robert W. Ray reported Thursday.

But Ray, summing up his findings in the so-called Travelgate scandal for a panel of appeals court judges, said that he will not seek to indict Mrs. Clinton because he cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that any of her testimony was false.
 
Denny Crane said:
Meanwhile, Trump held a rally today.

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vs the Trump Protesters:

 
http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/25/inspector-general-report-makes-clear-tha

What the report makes clear, then, is that contrary to what her campaign says, her email practices were both risky and not allowed by State Department guidelines. Indeed, Clinton appears to have made no significant attempt to hold the sort of conversations that might have led to compliance with those guidelines, and she resisted efforts to move any part of her communications into the official system.

Overall, the report comes across as sharply critical of Clinton. It makes clear that she refused to play by the rules while acting as Secretary of State—ignoring them as a point of personal privilege, and creating both security vulnerabilities and transparency and accountability problems in the process.

And then, while running for president, she falsely insisted that she’d done all that was required of her. So she didn’t just break the rules; she refused to admit that she had done so, and pretended that she’d gone the extra mile to ensure compliance.

That’s a troubling story to hear about any former public servant—and it's even more worrying when that person is seeking even more power and authority.

(Her web site still is full of lies. The lies have been updated though, as previous ones proven to be lies:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

Pants on fire. Obstruction of justice.)
 
barfo said:
Someone completely unqualified, or someone you have an irrational and possibly misogynistic hatred for?

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One as qualified as the current president, the other shouldn't be qualified because of numerous crimes.

Misogyny? You're kidding. Let's hear another comment about Palin.
 
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Denny Crane said:
One as qualified as the current president
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For someone who did the 'community organizer' schtick last time, I think you are on thin ice here.

Trump has literally zero qualifications to be president. Obama, at least, was a US senator for a brief time and a constitutional law professor. Those are actual qualifications.

Trump is a huckster and a real estate developer. Those are not qualifications for president. No one has ever considered those qualifications for the job.

, the other shouldn't be qualified because of numerous crimes.
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Alleged crimes, which the Republicans have spent years and millions of your tax dollars investigating and as of yet, have proven... zero crimes.

Misogyny? You're kidding. Let's here another comment about Palin.
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Ok. Sarah Palin would be an excellent choice for Donald Trump's VP. Happy now?

barfo
 
barfo said:
For someone who did the 'community organizer' schtick last time, I think you are on thin ice here.

Trump has literally zero qualifications to be president. Obama, at least, was a US senator for a brief time and a constitutional law professor. Those are actual qualifications.

Trump is a huckster and a real estate developer. Those are not qualifications for president. No one has ever considered those qualifications for the job.



Alleged crimes, which the Republicans have spent years and millions of your tax dollars investigating and as of yet, have proven... zero crimes.



Ok. Sarah Palin would be an excellent choice for Donald Trump's VP. Happy now?

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Alleged crimes.

:lol:

Those are actual qualifications.

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The Washington Post alleges "Clinton's inexcusable, willful disregard for the rules."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...89e942-22ae-11e6-9e7f-57890b612299_story.html

On March 11, 2011, an assistant secretary sent a memorandum on cybersecurity threats directly to Ms. Clinton, noting a “dramatic increase” in attempts to compromise personal email accounts of senior department officials, possibly for spying or blackmail. That didn’t stop Ms. Clinton either. There were also numerous notifications that some emails (but not all) are considered federal records under the law and that she should print and file those in her office and, before leaving office, surrender all emails dealing with department business. She did so only about two years later, in December 2014.

Starting in 2009, there was a new, electronic system, known as SMART, to properly archive department emails without having to print and file them, but Ms. Clinton opted not to use it, out of concern that there was “overly broad access to sensitive materials.” According to the report, after a staff member “raised concerns” with another official about Ms. Clinton’s personal email server, the staff was instructed “never to speak of the Secretary’s personal email system again.”

...there is no excuse for the way Ms. Clinton breezed through all the warnings and notifications...
 
The New York Times has kind words for Hiliar:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/26/u...on-emails-campaign-trust.html?ref=todayspaper

It is not just that the inspector general found fault with her email practices. The report speaks directly to a wounding perception that Mrs. Clinton is not forthright or transparent.

After months of Mrs. Clinton’s saying she used a private email for convenience, and that she was willing to cooperate fully with investigations into her handling of official business at the State Department, the report, delivered to Congress on Wednesday, undermined both claims.

Mrs. Clinton, through her lawyers, declined to be interviewed by the inspector general as part of the review. And when staff members raised concerns about the wisdom of her using a nongovernment email address, they were hushed by State Department officials, who instructed them “never to speak of the secretary’s personal email system again.”

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“Crooked Hillary, crooked Hillary, she’s as crooked as they come,’’ Mr. Trump said at a rally in Anaheim, Calif.

His attacks came as Mrs. Clinton tried to break through with her own criticism that Mr. Trump had profited from the 2008 housing crisis.

But the Clinton campaign’s new effort to define Mr. Trump as a con man who rips off the little guy for his own gain will be met with the trickle of new developments related to Mrs. Clinton’s private email. The F.B.I. is separately investigating whether Mrs. Clinton and her aides exposed sensitive national security information in their email correspondence. She has already turned over 55,000 pages of emails to the State Department.
 
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Denny Crane said:
Socialist state imploding before our eyes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/americas/venezuela-economic-government-collapse.html?_r=0

Feel the Bern!
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It's a little more complicated than that. Venezuela put their oil reserves into a company loyal to Chavez. After Chavez started taking out money from the oil funds (which was more than enough to redistribute to the population) they started leaning on inflation and printing money. Now they can barely afford to print money. It's a man made disaster, not the result of socialism.
 
isonoob said:
It's a little more complicated than that. Venezuela put their oil reserves into a company loyal to Chavez. After Chavez started taking out money from the oil funds (which was more than enough to redistribute to the population) they started leaning on inflation and printing money. Now they can barely afford to print money. It's a man made disaster, not the result of socialism.
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They own the means of production and killed it. Not just oil, but many things within their country. Where industry wasn't taken from the rightful owners, taxes and tariffs put companies out of business. They're massively in debt. When times were good, they borrowed and borrowed and borrowed. There just isn't enough money to pay for everything promised.

Chavez provided the killing blows, it just took a little time for the country to run out of steam.

No lights. No power for anything. No food. What a disaster.
 
I don't disagree with you, it's just that they had so much oil if they were a socialist state and did redistribute wealth it wouldn't be a disaster. It's one man's overspending that caused this. I look over at Chile which embraced the free market and they prosper without those huge oil reserves or really any natural resources, and it makes me sad.
 
When asked of her accomplishments as Sec. of State, Hillary replied:

“My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked! My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know… the remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn’t do that and I’m proud of that. Very proud. I would say that’s a major accomplishment.”

A quote only @barfo could explain.
 
Denny Crane said:
When asked of her accomplishments as Sec. of State, Hillary replied:

“My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked! My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know… the remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn’t do that and I’m proud of that. Very proud. I would say that’s a major accomplishment.”

A quote only @barfo could explain.
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I'd say her greatest accomplishment was getting a pedophile off the hook.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-free-prosecution-lost-crucial-evidence.html
 
Pinocchio, Snow White, and Superman are out for a stroll in town one day.

As they walk, they come across a sign: "Beauty contest for the most beautiful woman in the world.

"I’m entering" said Snow White.

After half an hour she comes out and they ask her, "Well, how did you do?"

" First Place ," said Snow White.

They continue walking and they see a sign: "Contest for the strongest man in the world."

"I'm entering," says Superman.

After half an hour he returns and they ask him, "How did you make out?"

" First Place ," answers Superman. "Did you ever doubt?"

They continue walking when they see a sign: "Contest! Who is the greatest liar in the world?"

Pinocchio says "this is mine."

Half an hour later, he returns with tears in his eyes.

"What happened?" they asked.

"Who the hell is Hillary Clinton?" asked Pinocchio
 
Denny Crane said:
When asked of her accomplishments as Sec. of State, Hillary replied:

“My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked! My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know… the remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn’t do that and I’m proud of that. Very proud. I would say that’s a major accomplishment.”

A quote only @barfo could explain.
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No, I'm not clear on what she was trying to say there.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
When asked of her accomplishments as Sec. of State, Hillary replied:

“My accomplishments as Secretary of State? Well, I'm glad you asked! My proudest accomplishment in which I take the most pride, mostly because of the opposition it faced early on, you know… the remnants of prior situations and mindsets that were too narrowly focused in a manner whereby they may have overlooked the bigger picture and we didn’t do that and I’m proud of that. Very proud. I would say that’s a major accomplishment.”

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Denny, just because because you read it in an email doesn't mean it's true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/achievements.asp
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Denny, just because because you read it in an email doesn't mean it's true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/achievements.asp
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Hillary Clinton did sit for an interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer which aired on 9 June 2014, after which she was criticized by some commentators (as she had been before) for not being able to provide a succinct or definitive answer when questioned about her top or proudest accomplishments as Secretary of State. But nothing like the passage quoted above was spoken by Clinton during that ABC interview.

Snopes probably isn't a great source.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/1...ton-names-her-accomplishments-secretary-state

Toward the end, Friedman turned to Clinton and said: "When you look at your time as Secretary of State, what are you most proud of, and what do you feel was unfinished, maybe love to have another crack at someday?"

Clinton and the audience laughed, because "another crack at someday" seemed an obvious back-door way of asking whether Clinton will run for president in 2016. But then she answered, and revealed something critically important about her intentions.

"Look, I really see my role as secretary, and in fact, leadership in general in a democracy, as a relay race," Clinton said. "I mean, you run the best race you can run, you hand off the baton. Some of what hasn't been finished may go on to be finished ..."

The answer seemed to concede that there is no single, momentous thing Clinton can point to as having achieved during her years as the nation's top diplomat. As she went on, Clinton instead linked herself to President Obama's achievements -- at least the Democratic version of them -- not in the field of foreign affairs, but at home.
 
Denny Crane said:
Hillary Clinton did sit for an interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer which aired on 9 June 2014, after which she was criticized by some commentators (as she had been before) for not being able to provide a succinct or definitive answer when questioned about her top or proudest accomplishments as Secretary of State. But nothing like the passage quoted above was spoken by Clinton during that ABC interview.

Snopes probably isn't a great source.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/1...ton-names-her-accomplishments-secretary-state

Toward the end, Friedman turned to Clinton and said: "When you look at your time as Secretary of State, what are you most proud of, and what do you feel was unfinished, maybe love to have another crack at someday?"

Clinton and the audience laughed, because "another crack at someday" seemed an obvious back-door way of asking whether Clinton will run for president in 2016. But then she answered, and revealed something critically important about her intentions.

"Look, I really see my role as secretary, and in fact, leadership in general in a democracy, as a relay race," Clinton said. "I mean, you run the best race you can run, you hand off the baton. Some of what hasn't been finished may go on to be finished ..."

The answer seemed to concede that there is no single, momentous thing Clinton can point to as having achieved during her years as the nation's top diplomat. As she went on, Clinton instead linked herself to President Obama's achievements -- at least the Democratic version of them -- not in the field of foreign affairs, but at home.
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Origins: Former First Lady and U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton served as U.S. Secretary of State for the first term of President Barack Obama's administration, stepping down from that position after four years — ostensibly to pursue a "new, lower-stress life," but in the eyes of many pundits Clinton declined to serve a second term in the Obama cabinet in order to better prepare for a 2016 presidential run of her own.

In mid-2014 many web sites began reproducing the quote referenced above, putatively a response given by Hillary Clinton on
11 March 2014 to a reporter or interviewer who asked her to identify her major accomplishments during her time as Secretary of State. Clinton's supposed answer was a stream of words that conveyed no tangible
accomplishment or anything specific; just a vague doublespeak sense of "We did things differently than those other guys."

It's doubtful that Hillary Clinton made such a statement, however. None of the numerous reproductions of this quote we've found on the Internet makes any mention of whom Hillary Clinton was speaking to when she allegedly said it or identifies the specifics of the setting in which it was supposedly uttered. (Where did this event take place? Was it a speech or an interview? Who asked her the question? What else did Hillary say on that occasion?)

We've also found no record of Clinton's having engaged in any public appearance or interview on 11 March 2014 during which she might have said what is attributed to her, nor any news account or transcript that references such a quote (from that date or at any other time). As well, the quoted words apparently didn't begin showing up on the Internet until months after they were supposedly spoken, rather than immediately afterwards.

Hillary Clinton did sit for an interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer which aired on 9 June 2014, after which she was criticized by some commentators (as she had been before) for not being able to provide a succinct or definitive answer when questioned about her top or proudest accomplishments as Secretary of State. But nothing like the passage quoted above was spoken by Clinton during that ABC interview.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/achievements.asp
 
Denny Crane said:



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Yes, she struggled, not defending her. But where is a link to the exact quote that you posted? When did she say it? Where did she say it? What else did she say? You can keep posting videos of her but that doesn't make your original quote true.
 
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